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Steve Robeson K4CAP May 25th 04 02:48 PM

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (William)
Date: 5/24/2004 6:36 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
.com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...


Still waiting on your "Extra Lite out of the box", Lennie...Seems
YOU are the one "unable"...

And how's that application for Navy/MC MARS coming? "Unable" to
do that too, no doubt...


In the grand scheme of things, I think not getting an amateur license,
and getting put out of the US Marine Corps are magnitudes apart.

Your mileage may vary.


I am sure YOUR mileage varies, Brain, but only since you've not been paying
attention.

Try to read what OTHERS say, and not make third hand interpretations based
upon Lennie's rantings and antagonisms. The enlightenment will be astounding.



Steve, K4YZ






Steve Robeson K4CAP May 25th 04 02:53 PM

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (William)
Date: 5/24/2004 6:50 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
.com...
(William) wrote in message
.com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
.com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

Tsk, tsk, tsk...without the DoD Directive there would be NO MARS!

The DoD directive ENABLES MARS.

Wow! No wonder you got put out.

Directives "enable" something or some action.

Unable to adapt to military service and unable to adapt to civilian life.

Where does that leave you?


With a DD214 that provides a nice income and the words "Honorable"
on it.

The DoD directives do indeed "enable" the MARS program. Do you
disagree? Perhaps it was a DoS directive? DoJ...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ


What amazes me are the number of military retirees with a disability
check and still capable of pulling in a full-time income from - work.


From "work" that is NOT the same as what I was required to do in the US
Marine Corps.

From "work" I was cleared to do AFTER I completed the USMC required
physical rehab after I was retired out.

Those "disabilities" came from service connected injuries. Doing their
"work".

Steve, K4YZ






Steve Robeson K4CAP May 25th 04 02:58 PM

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (William)
Date: 5/24/2004 5:36 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Brian Kelly) wrote in message
.com...


However, the Marines did have trouble getting authorized to activate
Navy MARS. So I requested that we activate an AF MARS station to
provide MWR traffic for the Marines. In the space of two dits, the
Navy authorized MARS use. An AF MARS authorization is written into
each TALCE deployment.


What, exactly, does that have to do with my question?


Tell us again how you have "real military experience" but never wore a
uniform.

Handling MARS traffic might give you real military experience, but I've got
plenty.

I'll try again:
How many pieces of MARS traffic did you handle?


What's it to you?


Hey Brian (W3RV)...I think Brain answered your question right there...

Just like he answered the questions about his alleged "T5" operation...

"I didn't REALLY go to Somalia, but I did spend the night at a Holiday Inn
Express....."

I am sure he's in Hog Heaven now that his BoyToy, Lennie the Liar is back
in action...

THERE'S two "peas in a pod"...

Steve, K4YZ






Steve Robeson K4CAP May 25th 04 03:01 PM

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (William)
Date: 5/24/2004 6:40 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


Don't need luck when you work smarter.


Then buy TWO lottery tickets, Brain...

At this rate you're gonna need a LOT of luck. "Smarter" is NOT your
better suit.

Matter of fact, I don't think you can even get into the fitting room.

Steve, K4YZ










Steve Robeson K4CAP May 25th 04 03:06 PM

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (William)
Date: 5/25/2004 7:39 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


Somebody has to get the Marines to where they're going. If they don't
mind a long ride, they take a boat. If they're needed a bit quicker,
they take a plane. Airplanes typically require a runway, and
Mogadishu had one. What they didn't have was atc and weather. Too
bad the Marines aren't self-propelled. It would save everyone a lot
of trouble.


Why?

According to a SecDef inteview on Sixty Minutes a few years back, the
Commander-in-Chief wants to know two things when the stuff hits the fan...Where
are the nearest carriers, and is the MEF ready to hit the beach...?!?!

No runways or ATC needed. And no particular interest in the USAF or it's
MWR department.

Just a mission.

Steve, K4YZ






William May 25th 04 06:38 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(William)
Date: 5/25/2004 7:39 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


Somebody has to get the Marines to where they're going. If they don't
mind a long ride, they take a boat. If they're needed a bit quicker,
they take a plane. Airplanes typically require a runway, and
Mogadishu had one. What they didn't have was atc and weather. Too
bad the Marines aren't self-propelled. It would save everyone a lot
of trouble.


Why?

According to a SecDef inteview on Sixty Minutes a few years back, the
Commander-in-Chief wants to know two things when the stuff hits the fan...Where
are the nearest carriers, and is the MEF ready to hit the beach...?!?!


AEF can be quicker than any carrier group, especially if the beach is
hundreds or thousands of miles away from the hotspot. Or not.

Need a TALCE to deploy AEF and its logistics tail. Create Air Bridge.
TALCE in First. And get everything there before the Navy could.

No runways or ATC needed. And no particular interest in the USAF or it's
MWR department.


Get real. Were you a reservist or something like that? The Navy
slobbered over our BX and "MWR department."

Just a mission.


Which often involves the Air Force, even if just to expedite MWR
calls.

Ditto 10th Mountain. Didn't see the Navy transporting those folks,
and there was a big beach just inches from the Mog runway.


Hey, ever wonder why the Navy stencils their names over their
dungarees back pocket?

William May 25th 04 06:42 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(William)
Date: 5/24/2004 5:36 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Brian Kelly) wrote in message
.com...


However, the Marines did have trouble getting authorized to activate
Navy MARS. So I requested that we activate an AF MARS station to
provide MWR traffic for the Marines. In the space of two dits, the
Navy authorized MARS use. An AF MARS authorization is written into
each TALCE deployment.

What, exactly, does that have to do with my question?


Tell us again how you have "real military experience" but never wore a
uniform.

Handling MARS traffic might give you real military experience, but I've got
plenty.

I'll try again:
How many pieces of MARS traffic did you handle?


What's it to you?


Hey Brian (W3RV)...I think Brain answered your question right there...

Just like he answered the questions about his alleged "T5" operation...

"I didn't REALLY go to Somalia, but I did spend the night at a Holiday Inn
Express....."

I am sure he's in Hog Heaven now that his BoyToy, Lennie the Liar is back
in action...

THERE'S two "peas in a pod"...

Steve, K4YZ


Steve, I realy would have liked to check into the Holiday Inn, Express
or not. Slept on top of a pallet for the first few days.

Nothing at all like your "seven hostile actions" which were probably
just seven cases of self-abuse.

No wonder you're out.

William May 25th 04 06:45 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(William)
Date: 5/24/2004 6:50 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
.com...
(William) wrote in message

. com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
. com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

Tsk, tsk, tsk...without the DoD Directive there would be NO MARS!

The DoD directive ENABLES MARS.

Wow! No wonder you got put out.

Directives "enable" something or some action.

Unable to adapt to military service and unable to adapt to civilian life.

Where does that leave you?

With a DD214 that provides a nice income and the words "Honorable"
on it.

The DoD directives do indeed "enable" the MARS program. Do you
disagree? Perhaps it was a DoS directive? DoJ...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ


What amazes me are the number of military retirees with a disability
check and still capable of pulling in a full-time income from - work.


From "work" that is NOT the same as what I was required to do in the US
Marine Corps.

From "work" I was cleared to do AFTER I completed the USMC required
physical rehab after I was retired out.

Those "disabilities" came from service connected injuries. Doing their
"work".

Steve, K4YZ


Yeh, yeh. You claim to work in an ER where lifting of patients and
various other intense stressors are at work. Why wouldn't you be fit
for duty in the USMC?

William May 25th 04 06:47 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(William)
Date: 5/24/2004 6:40 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


Don't need luck when you work smarter.


Then buy TWO lottery tickets, Brain...

At this rate you're gonna need a LOT of luck. "Smarter" is NOT your
better suit.

Matter of fact, I don't think you can even get into the fitting room.

Steve, K4YZ


Steve, how do you think I got into the USAF? Why do you think so many
have to go Army, Navy, or USMC?

Best of Luck on that one.

Len Over 21 May 25th 04 07:40 PM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(William)
Date: 5/25/2004 7:39 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


Somebody has to get the Marines to where they're going. If they don't
mind a long ride, they take a boat. If they're needed a bit quicker,
they take a plane. Airplanes typically require a runway, and
Mogadishu had one. What they didn't have was atc and weather. Too
bad the Marines aren't self-propelled. It would save everyone a lot
of trouble.


Why?

According to a SecDef inteview on Sixty Minutes a few years back, the
Commander-in-Chief wants to know two things when the stuff hits the
fan...Where are the nearest carriers, and is the MEF ready to hit the

beach...?!?!

According to a DoD Directive and three Regulations -

The "M" in MARS = MILITARY

The "A" in MARS = AFFILIATE

MARS is NOT "amateur radio."

The only thing that "hit the fan" in this thread is nursie's cursing and
foul-mouthed, foul-minded pejoratives and denigrations connected
with his psychosis of being unable to separate a civilian hobby radio
activity from the murine corps.

Try to stay focussed, EX-murine. Amateur radio is NOT the same as
the USMC.

No runways or ATC needed.


You are fantasizing again. Amateur radio is NOT the same as the
USMC.

And no particular interest in the USAF or it's MWR department.

Just a mission.


Nursie could convert to Catholicsm in order to take a Retreat at some
Mission. The peace and quiet might soothe the savage, disordered
beast within him.

MARS is NOT "amateur radio."

Temper fry...

LHA / WMD




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