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June 8th 04, 11:08 PM
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In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/7/2004 9:25 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (He's got it in his wallet Superham) writes: Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/6/2004 1:01 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: (William) Date: 6/5/2004 9:45 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: I could send you another N0IMD/KH2 card, though. You're a legit contact there. Funny. You kept logs from Guam, a semi-rare but hardly unique location, yet you "lost" your logs from a once-in-a-lifetime locale. Where are nursie's logs from Okinawa? No proof = Nothing happened. Unlike Brain, I can refer you to 15th Air Force Auxiliary Military Radio Service station callsign KA6CM, issued from Yakota, Japan, in August of 1981. "Yakota?" :-) "Refer me?" "Refer anyone?" A USAF MARS station? Oh, my! Whoi said anything about MARS, Sir Putzy? I said AMRS. No, you did NOT write "AMRS" (therefore you did not "say anything"). You sound like you are making up things as you go along. Not a new thing with nursie... AMRS was the program underwhich US Armed Forces personnel were "licensed" to operate those 2-by-2 KA callsigns in Japan until Japan finally created a reciprocal licensing program for foreigners. Sounds like you are describing "underwhich odor," nursie. Better practice aespsis more. Your words be getting stinky. Let's have some REAL "references" to this "AMRS" like from governments. An whut it say on dat "referral?" Is it hidden from view again? Where are nursie's other claims? No proof = Nothing happened. You were provided adequate information to inquire directly of the Veteran's Administration, Lennie. Not good enough. NARA is the place. National Archives and Records Administration. St. Louis. And you can get the same questions answered via VA. The VA will acknowledge requests for verification of service. As for the rest, you don't need my entire service record. Yes we do. It would explain your "seven hostile actions." It would explain your REAL discharge type. It would also give your REAL MOS. Be my guest. Of course you won't...The answers would put a cork in YOUR silliness. Knowing all about the gunnery nurse's heroic military career is not high on anyone's agenda. :-) You can try by reading and UNDERSTANDING DoD Directive 4650.2 data 21 Nov 03. It don' say no ham be da hole MARS. Lennie what did you do with that 14 years of college-level night school you claim to have attended...?!?! I got paid better. :-) Here's a clue: Night school remedial English would help you (touch typing in adverse stress environments doesn't hurt, either) understand government and military directive/regulation wording. However, none of that works if there isn't any intelligence behind the squinty, reddened eyeballs to process the information. DoD Directive 4650.2 explains MARS. MARS is a military radio service. MARS is NOT amateur radio. [hasn't been so since 1948] No amount of schooling, classes, whatever seems to have any effect on your understanding a rather simple DoD Directive. Another lie? No lie. sigh Poor nursie, still can't keep from tossing snit at those who have done things nursie hasn't done? :-) Tsk, tsk, tsk...I have to repeat my resume in here (again) plus giving references of (still living) radio amateurs who can attest to that? Gunnery nurse would go even more ape-snit about "CV" and yelling everything was a "lie." :-) All these "meaningful discussions!" :-) Len Anderson retired (from regular hours) electronic engineer person |
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#43
June 8th 04, 11:08 PM
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In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: (William) Date: 6/7/2004 8:15 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: (William) Date: 6/5/2004 9:45 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: I could send you another N0IMD/KH2 card, though. You're a legit contact there. Funny. Nope. True. You kept logs from Guam, a semi-rare but hardly unique location, Guam IS unique. All of the rest of the Marianas Islands have to share KH0. yet you "lost" your logs from a once-in-a-lifetime locale. Where did you get THAT piece of misinformation? From you, Brain. On more than one occassion you've insisted that you "can't find" your "logs". THAT says "lost". Looks like nursie is trying to dump a log in here once more... How inept. What a stupid assertion. I think you've already used up this month's quota. Better go easy. Hey Brainy...YOU made the "stupid assertion". Go back and sit down, you aren't finished... So NOW you're insinuating that you HAVE the logs that you have previously told us you either don't have, can't find or were otherwise lost or misplaced. Poor nursie, still trying to make a mountain out of a little pile of dust (that fell out of his overloaded imagination). I think YOU are the one who had better "go easy". You are getting tied up in your own mistruths. "Seven hostile actions." "MARS is amateur radio." The medical discharge that turned "honorable" and so marked on his DD-214. Knows exactly where the Burbank, CA, HRO store is because he "shopped there with some friends" yet he can't recall anything of the surroundings before the store moved there. Knows all about Naval Air Development Center because he was assigned there (long after NADC was moved) which was really Warminster NAS (across the road). Has tutored "countless" newbies and "broken bread" with more (countless?) visiting hams. [one has to wonder why he has never been caught after trashing all those bakeries...] Thinks all military radios are classified and therefore can't talk about them...even though they've not been so for decades. That's just a partial list of nursie's claims made in five years. He has yet to make good on all that because nursie never ever makes any "untruths." :-) Aren't all these "meaningful discussions" fun? :-) LHA / WMD |
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#44
June 8th 04, 11:08 PM
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In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: (William) Date: 6/7/2004 8:10 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Brian Kelly) wrote in message e.com... (William) wrote in message e.com... Dave Heil wrote in message ... William wrote: (N2EY) wrote in message e.com... TeleTech wrote in message 3... Do people put the /W4 on their QSL cards, etc? Is this a big deal these days? No and no. Maybe, maybe not. Depends if the portable designation makes you a different "country." If you were portable KL7 or KH6 or even KP4, I'd definitely put that on my card. Even if it weren't antoher country, I'd still put it on my card. bb Yeah, sort of like T5/N0IMD. Just put it on a card. Dave K8MN I did. But you're not in that log book so you don't get one. Sorry. Who, exactly, did ever get one? Sorry, Kellie, but you're not in there either. Now that doesn't answer the question he asked, Brain. The gunnery nurse put on his Military Interlocutor brassard? [arm band says "MI" but trust me, folks, the second letter doesn't stand for "intelligence."] He didn't ask "..did I?" He asked "..who did?" Kellie wrote: "Who, exactly, did ever get one?" That's exact. :-) Nice try. Temper fry. LHA / WMD [these things just seem to write themselves...:-) ] |
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#45
June 8th 04, 11:08 PM
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In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: (William) Date: 6/7/2004 8:08 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Brian Kelly) wrote in message e.com... The last thing I'd do is keep logs and send cards if I went freebanding. w3rv Same here. But I don't accept some blowhard(s) on r.r.a.p. as a competent authority for me to have to produce proof for. There's no "authority" here to "produce proof" for, Brain. Several newsgroup fully-licensed blowhards have demanded proof, nursie. You be one of them. Only your own reputation. YOU made the claims. Tsk, tsk, tsk...that nasty old mirror reflecting yourself as you write these nastygrams. Hello? Where and when those "seven hostile actions?" That you fight so hard to keep from validating them only further substantiates my suspicisions that you made the whole thing up in order to be able to say "ME TOO...ME TOO! ! !" It's Mirror Time! :-) "Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who's the mightiest ham of all?" "Nursie, of course," said the mirror...who was really just another personality in USMC class A full dress... :-) Temper fry... LHA / WMD |
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#46
June 8th 04, 11:08 PM
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In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: "Avery Hightower" Date: 6/7/2004 3:57 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: .net "N2EY" wrote in message ... No proof = Reasonable doubt. Nothing more or less. You just don't get it, do you Jim. On rrap you must either agree with K4CAP/K4YZ and accede to every whimsical demand of his, or you are a low-life lying scum sucking weasel. Reasonable doubt is not an option. What "reasonable doubt"...?!?! Two years of dodging requests for validation of claims made...?!?! "Seven hostile actions." ALL the bragging about nursie's doing this, doing that, being the most wonderfullest radio communicator, knowing exactly what electronic engineering is, etc., etc., etc. :-) And what "demands"...?!?! Again...Someone makes claims of having had experiences that allegedly makes them "knowldegeable" of certain skills or techniques, yet NO EVIDENCE of having actually done them... I suppose all those years of memorizing all the advertisements in QST must be good for something... :-) However, we (the newsgroup readers) have NO proof whatsoever about those "hostile actions" claims. We (the newsgroup readers) haven't even been informed of their place and date. Eh, Brain...?!?! Who do you think you are messaging to? Paranoia setting in again? Did you invade Fantasy Island again? LHA / WMD |
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#47
June 8th 04, 11:24 PM
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 6/6/2004 11:58 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 6/5/2004 6:59 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , Dave Heil writes: We don't know that T5/N0IMD existed. I think it did. Why? Because he "said so"...?!?! That's one reason. Lacking any proof to the contrary, I'm not going to call someone a liar. Then you're a bit more liberal than I am, I guess! =) Not liberal. Accurate. I figure after two years of being asked yet proactively dodging the ante earns Brain the title. Nope. A liar is someone who intentionally says things he/she knows are untrue in an attempt to deceive. For all we know, the statements made about the alleged operation by the alleged operator could all be true. Sure you can...ie: Antarctica Well, there you have it. It could have happened, and all of the above-named conditions would have been met. And I have yet to meet anyone who WAS "there" that didn't have SOME memento of the occassion. I know three guys who were /KC4 who at least had pics taken at the McMurdo and Little America signs outside the outpost's complex. But the alleged operation wasn't allegedly in Antartica. However even there there are international agreements on who can grant what authority, to whom, and under what circumstances. Of course. I didn't say such operation would be 100% in agreement with international requirements, just that it could happen. Heck, it might not even be 1% in agreement. But it still could have happened. Sure it could...and J.Lo might leave her NEW husband and show up on my doorstep begging for me to pleasure her... I ain't holding my breath. However if she DOES show up, you can be darned sure I will have SOME sort of proof before making outlandish claims! That's you. Brain was allegedly in a military unit under United Nations auspices, and it seems he did NOTHING to get the PROPER authorizations to do what he CLAIMED to do. Maybe. But that has no bearing on whether the alleged /T5 operation took place, whether logbooks existed, and whether QSLs were exchanged. It has all the bearing in the world, Jim. Not at all. Either it happened or it didn't. If it was unauthorized, yet it happened, it still happened. It just doesn't count for any awards. How can you say that a lack of proper authorization to operate DOESN'T ahve bearing on the operation...?!?! I'm saying it doesn't have any bearing on whether it happened or not. There's not a single Amateur Radio award by any organization that I am aware of that is not predicated on the legitimacy of the operating credentials of the claimant. Sure. And to our knowledge nobody has claimed any QSOs with the alleged operation for any awards. He can "operate" all he wants to and exchange a ton of QSL cards, but no license (or authorization or permit or certificate...what ever you want to call it...) and all that operation is worthless. Of course. But the *claims* that there was an operation would still be true. Remember that all it would take to meet all of these conditions would be one QSO in a ham band using stateside calls and portable designation. As long as the legal criteria was met. Even if they weren't, it would still be an operation. Just not a legit one. In Brain's case, it appears as though it wasn't. He was not in Antarctica...he was allegedly in Somalia. He won't even provide us with the callsign of ONE station he "worked" while in Somalia. Of course not. Same goes for bands/modes/antennas/rigs used. But the lack of detail doesn't mean the alleged operation didn't happen. Please tell me you're just playing "Devil's Advocate", Jim...! I'm simply being accurate. Folks keep focusing on the wrong things. What has actually been claimed? Operation from /T5, nothing more. No mention of modes, bands, rigs, number of QSOs, etc. Can't you see that if even *one* QSO was made, on *any* ham band, over *any* distance, it would constitute "operation from /T5"? Even if said operation was not in agreement with international agreements? The lack of detail is a different issue completely. You've GOT to be kidding me. Not at all. I can tell you in INTIMATE detail the sation I had set up in my barracks on Oki in 81...Equipment, antennas, I even still have the log. Although I don't have my copy of the AMRS authorization, I can give specifics about who/what/where, callsign, and even have a couple of QSL cards from folks I worked... That's you. Being secretive isn't lying. It's...being secretive. Of course the lack of detail reduces credibility, but it doesn't make the secretive person a liar. He can't even TELL us ONE callsign of anyone he worked...?!?! Not can't. Won't. Big difference. No proof = Didn't happen. Not at all. No proof = Reasonable doubt. No proof on short notice = reasonable doubt. No proof after two years = didn't happen. Not at all, Steve. Objective reality states that if a thing happened, it happened whether anyone believes it happened or not. Nothing more or less. His "nothing more" can't be much less than what it's been, Jim! Of course. Don't you realize by now that you won't get answers to your questions? 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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#48
June 9th 04, 12:40 AM
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Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote: (Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com... The last thing I'd do is keep logs and send cards if I went freebanding. w3rv Same here. But I don't accept some blowhard(s) on r.r.a.p. as a competent authority for me to have to produce proof for. Best of luck. "William"'s definition of "blowhard": Anyone who questions the legality or the very existence of his claimed operation from Somalia. Kinda dangled your participle in the breeze there, "William". Dave K8MN Welp, Dave, The World's Greatest DXer, your initial comments were so far off base that it took "little ole me" to educate you amateur operations from places without a government. And all without a single "thank you." You might as well go back to working out of band Frenchmen for all the good it did. Best of Luck. |
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#49
June 9th 04, 12:51 AM
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: (William) Date: 6/7/2004 8:08 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Brian Kelly) wrote in message .com... The last thing I'd do is keep logs and send cards if I went freebanding. w3rv Same here. But I don't accept some blowhard(s) on r.r.a.p. as a competent authority for me to have to produce proof for. There's no "authority" here to "produce proof" for, Brain. Your first correct statement in about four years. Only your own reputation. YOU made the claims. I stand by my claims. I know they're true. It's enough for me. That you fight so hard to keep from validating them only further "Fight so hard???" Hi, hi, hi. It's easy, really. You're no authority. substantiates my suspicisions that you made the whole thing up Your daily posts substantiate that you're nuts. in order to be able to say "ME TOO...ME TOO! ! !" I was one of the first. No need to say, "ME TOO..." Everyone after Jan 1993 is "me too." It's your bed, Brain. Comfy? I'm quite comfortable. Thanks for asking. Your bed must be tormented. Make an appointment. Accept help. Get rest. Come back human. Best of Luck. |
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#50
June 9th 04, 12:56 AM
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: "Avery Hightower" Date: 6/7/2004 3:57 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: .net "N2EY" wrote in message ... No proof = Reasonable doubt. Nothing more or less. You just don't get it, do you Jim. On rrap you must either agree with K4CAP/K4YZ and accede to every whimsical demand of his, or you are a low-life lying scum sucking weasel. Reasonable doubt is not an option. What "reasonable doubt"...?!?! Two years of dodging requests for validation of claims made...?!?! And what "demands"...?!?! Again...Someone makes claims of having had experiences that allegedly makes them "knowldegeable" of certain skills or techniques, yet NO EVIDENCE of having actually done them... Eh, Brain...?!?! Steve, K4YZ Steve, I have no evidence that you're sane. Please post your discharge physical to RRAP. Thanks, B-r-i-a-n |
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