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June 19th 04, 11:03 AM
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Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/18/2004 2:48 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Putzcussionist of the Rock-head group Grateful Dood) writes: "I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"...From the archived mistruths of an ex radio technician parading about as an engineer, Leonard H. Anderson. Was the SINCGARS family of radios ever mentioned? ...(SNIPPED) There are a LOT of military radio systems and equipment NOT mentioned in Amateur media...and byt eh same token most of those systems are NOT mentions in a great many professional journals, either...! ! ! ! ! Hmmm...General Dynamics as well as ITT make a quarter million radio sets over a period of 15 years and it is "not" mentioned in any professional journals?!?!? I didn't say "ever", Your Wimpiness. Your point? There's quite a bit of FREE information out there for anyone to find out about military or government radio systems and communications. Been there for a long time, even before the Internet went public such as the SINCGARS. Great. Then all those Amateurs who ARE interested in military communications DON'T have to depend on QST, et al to discuss them. A QUARTER MILLION radio sets of one kind makes for some future surplus market, doesn't it? [that's the most of any one kind of radio system in government history...] Sure it does. And "surplus" radio gear has NOT been the preferred method of getting on the air by Amateurs for TWO DECADES....Not when folks can buy brand new, under warranty equipment for under $200. If poor nursie is annoyed at not being spoon-fed enough info through hum radio magazines, then he should not try to mean- mouth those who know about such things. Tsk, tsk. Perhaps if you HAD been reading those Amateur magazines you'd understand a bit more about what you are talking about. But you go right on ahead, Lennie... Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie getting all red in the face with rage again and can't pull out any information from all those "secret" military radios "he can't talk about." Only you've tried to make it "secret". No, nursie did, way back when I first mentioned the SINCGARS in here plus the public availability of FM 24-24 of December 1994 (a compendium of signal equipment of all kinds, including HF radio sets, then in military inventory). Nursie claimed then - in broad generalities - he had "worked in military communications" but could not name ONE SET by either nomenclature or familiar name ANY of them. Claimed he could not talk about them due to not revealing military secrets or some rationalistic reason. Actually, my words then, as they are now, are that what I did in the Armed Forces have nothing to do with Amateur Communications. Just like YOUR "link" with Amateur Radio, Lennie, those "happenings" only shared the theoretical basics of radio wave generation and propagation. It's the application...not the physics...that separates you from the rest of us, Sir Scummy. Sucks to be you. Steve, K4YZ |
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June 20th 04, 02:48 PM
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Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/19/2004 4:17 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: The melting point of solder is well below the temper temperature of nursie...easier to suck up melted solder than to put out the fires of outraged, angry egos such as nursie's. "I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"...Leonard H. Anderson, alleged engineer and proven pathological liar. I guess this must be all of what modern U.S. amateur radio is about...a bunch of mad-as-hell extras berating all the "lower classes." Nice hobby. For Huns and other barbarians...? All the nicer without a lying, disgraceful ex-technician who thinks he knows better NOT in it, Lennie... That would be you, byt the way... Sucks to be you...again. Steve, K4YZ |
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June 20th 04, 11:19 PM
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In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: The Game's Afoot! From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/19/2004 4:17 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: The melting point of solder is well below the temper temperature of nursie...easier to suck up melted solder than to put out the fires of outraged, angry egos such as nursie's. "I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"...Leonard H. Anderson, alleged engineer and proven pathological liar. Nursie should not be sending so many nastygrams. That only reinforces the already-perceived-by-readers of her "Antichrist" character. Neither is your posting any of the "meaningful discourse" you desire. You don't "discourse" when you diss and cuss. I guess this must be all of what modern U.S. amateur radio is about...a bunch of mad-as-hell extras berating all the "lower classes." Nice hobby. For Huns and other barbarians...? All the nicer without a lying, disgraceful ex-technician who thinks he knows better NOT in it, Lennie... That would be you, byt the way... Are you saying "byt" me? Sucks to be you...again. Tsk, tsk, tsk...not only dissing and cussing, but very bad sentence structure. Try some remedial English classes. During the day since you abhor night classes. It would make a remarkable difference in improving your written communications. Temper fry... LHA / WMD |
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June 22nd 04, 11:16 AM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Sucks to be you...again. Tsk, tsk, tsk...not only dissing and cussing, but very bad sentence structure. Try some remedial English classes. During the day since you abhor night classes. It would make a remarkable difference in improving your written communications. Temper fry... LHA / WMD It's all a part of his "tuff guy" self-image. The only problem is the rest of us don't see a tough guy. He's just another Walter Mitty wannabe. "Sir, First General Order: I will beep my key in a military manner, keeping always on the alert for the NCI, dissing and cussing those within sight and hearing. Sir!" |
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June 22nd 04, 10:26 PM
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In article ,
(William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Sucks to be you...again. Tsk, tsk, tsk...not only dissing and cussing, but very bad sentence structure. Try some remedial English classes. During the day since you abhor night classes. It would make a remarkable difference in improving your written communications. Temper fry... LHA / WMD It's all a part of his "tuff guy" self-image. The only problem is the rest of us don't see a tough guy. He's just another Walter Mitty wannabe. "Sir, First General Order: I will beep my key in a military manner, keeping always on the alert for the NCI, dissing and cussing those within sight and hearing. Sir!" Yes SIR! [geez, I forgot the "sir" part...been away too long from the military (since 1989 and lovely Fort Irwin, heh heh)] Gosh, Brian, we be "drudges" according to a high-society civilian (king of the katapults) who dines with Captains and then shoots bears for navel intelligence while on navel maneuvers. Got an extra frag grenade? I think I need some practice there, too. Need to prune down the wild growth on the chain of command in here. :-) No sweat on BASS...had that down just dandy a long time ago when the sight picture steadied down and "a few ounces of finger pressure" reached out and touched the bull. Lots of "bull" in here. All paper tigers, too, just like paper targets. Too bad you "were not in Somalia" and I was just a "rear area radio clerk" but ol grizzled gunnery nurse did "seven hostile actions!" [he "has it in his wallet"] {probably along with that elastomeric thing that is ready for more "action"] I wonder where "Mogandishu" is? I don't think it is in Somalia. I've heard of Mogadishu" but nursie keeps mumbling about "Mogandishu"... Sorry, I meandered. Forgot this newsgroup is supposed to concentrate on presidential politics and how evil, wicked, mean and nasty them Dems are. Too bad this newsgroup couldn't discuss amateur radio matters or serious issues like Broadband over Power Lines or the upcoming rules changes in Part 97. I think this newsgrope is only for licensed political amateur operators, all of whom have credentials in economics, politics, and statesmanship, plus much experience IN office! Yeah, that's it: Rec.republican.amateur.professionals! Beep, beep |
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June 20th 04, 08:55 PM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: The Game's Afoot! From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/18/2004 2:48 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Putzcussionist of the Rock-head group Grateful Dood) writes: "I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"...From the archived mistruths of an ex radio technician parading about as an engineer, Leonard H. Anderson. Tsk, tsk, tsk. :-) Nursie be here to just FIGHT anyone not thinking like nursie. :-) Might makes right. Was the SINCGARS family of radios ever mentioned? ...(SNIPPED) There are a LOT of military radio systems and equipment NOT mentioned in Amateur media...and byt eh same token most of those systems are NOT mentions in a great many professional journals, either...! ! ! ! ! Hmmm...General Dynamics as well as ITT make a quarter million radio sets over a period of 15 years and it is "not" mentioned in any professional journals?!?!? I didn't say "ever", Your Wimpiness. tsk, tsk, tsk. [lower-case comment as befits lower-case nursie] "Sorry Hans, Military Communications Journals ARE NOT Amateur Radio Journals." Hi, hi. Your point? There's quite a bit of FREE information out there for anyone to find out about military or government radio systems and communications. Been there for a long time, even before the Internet went public such as the SINCGARS. Great. Then all those Amateurs who ARE interested in military communications DON'T have to depend on QST, et al to discuss them. ...and nursie thinks amateur radio is exclusive, different from all other radio. :-) Steve doesn't know what he thinks. One minute, just to disagree with you he says one thing, another minute, just to disagree with Hans, he says something else. Such as this little gem: "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Did nursie ever bother to check out other radio services (other than the CBs he saw shrink-wrapped at Wal-Mart)? But, but, but... He saw some radios in an EMS van, and he saw some radios in a police car. But he most liked to run the siren and blinking lights as they make him convulse. A QUARTER MILLION radio sets of one kind makes for some future surplus market, doesn't it? [that's the most of any one kind of radio system in government history...] Sure it does. And "surplus" radio gear has NOT been the preferred method of getting on the air by Amateurs for TWO DECADES....Not when folks can buy brand new, under warranty equipment for under $200. Tsk, tsk, tsk. For a nearly-fifty "olde-tyme" hamme nursie sure doesn't know much about surplus. :-) He's expert at wasting surplus bandwidth. If poor nursie is annoyed at not being spoon-fed enough info through hum radio magazines, then he should not try to mean- mouth those who know about such things. Tsk, tsk. Perhaps if you HAD been reading those Amateur magazines you'd understand a bit more about what you are talking about. tsk, tsk, tsk...nursie imagines others' worlds and doings instead of finding out. Interesting that a person who has written for amateur radio magazines has never read one. Len, you otta be ashamed. But you go right on ahead, Lennie... tsk, tsk, tsk...nursie getting on high horse again, forgetting which end is head and which is tail. :-) Even on a regular horse, he needs to mount the horse while standing on a stump. Can't imagine him ever getting on a high horse. Maybe he should stick with ponies. Nursie hasn't been able to stop many, despite his shouting, hollering, cursing, and threatening. :-) He will never run me off, as he has tried so many times before. Actually, my words then, as they are now, are that what I did in the Armed Forces have nothing to do with Amateur Communications. Just like YOUR "link" with Amateur Radio, Lennie, those "happenings" only shared the theoretical basics of radio wave generation and propagation. tsk, tsk, tsk...translated, nursie never did any military communications at all (except maybe to use the day room telephone). :-) So that's what he was doing while assigned Bay Orderly. Typical. Nursie was involved too much in those "hostile actions" in the military. Must be the post-traumatic stress disorder thing showing in his postings... You never know what will set him off. It's the application...not the physics...that separates you from the rest of us, Sir Scummy. tsk, tsk, tsk...more "meaningful discourse" from nursie? :-) You apply physics differently in amateur radio? Hmmm? Sucks to be you. Only when I use either of the two Hoover appliances here. :-) Or the solder-sucker on the bench. :-) The melting point of solder is well below the temper temperature of nursie...easier to suck up melted solder than to put out the fires of outraged, angry egos such as nursie's... :-) He's like a phosphorous bomb. Lots of sparks and smoke. I guess this must be all of what modern U.S. amateur radio is about...a bunch of mad-as-hell extras berating all the "lower classes." Nice hobby. For Huns and other barbarians...? LHA / WMD Len, they're not all that way. |
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June 21st 04, 01:54 AM
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In article ,
(William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: The Game's Afoot! From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/18/2004 2:48 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Putzcussionist of the Rock-head group Grateful Dood) writes: "I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"...From the archived mistruths of an ex radio technician parading about as an engineer, Leonard H. Anderson. Tsk, tsk, tsk. :-) Nursie be here to just FIGHT anyone not thinking like nursie. :-) Might makes right. He "float like a bee, sting like a butterfly..." :-) Was the SINCGARS family of radios ever mentioned? ...(SNIPPED) There are a LOT of military radio systems and equipment NOT mentioned in Amateur media...and byt eh same token most of those systems are NOT mentions in a great many professional journals, either...! ! ! ! ! Hmmm...General Dynamics as well as ITT make a quarter million radio sets over a period of 15 years and it is "not" mentioned in any professional journals?!?!? I didn't say "ever", Your Wimpiness. tsk, tsk, tsk. [lower-case comment as befits lower-case nursie] "Sorry Hans, Military Communications Journals ARE NOT Amateur Radio Journals." Hi, hi. Heh, nursie would be surprised at the number of hams in AFCEA or in the Association of Old Crows (real professional association for electronic warfare engineering type, named after a pair of legendary Norse ravens who flew ahead looking for land). Your point? There's quite a bit of FREE information out there for anyone to find out about military or government radio systems and communications. Been there for a long time, even before the Internet went public such as the SINCGARS. Great. Then all those Amateurs who ARE interested in military communications DON'T have to depend on QST, et al to discuss them. ...and nursie thinks amateur radio is exclusive, different from all other radio. :-) Steve doesn't know what he thinks. One minute, just to disagree with you he says one thing, another minute, just to disagree with Hans, he says something else. Such as this little gem: "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Welp, he seems stuck on that one, refusing to budge an inch. Once it sticks in the 16 working neurons of his, it's like mental crazy glue. Next, he'll probably state "death before dishonor" (of admitting a mistake). Did nursie ever bother to check out other radio services (other than the CBs he saw shrink-wrapped at Wal-Mart)? But, but, but... He saw some radios in an EMS van, and he saw some radios in a police car. But he most liked to run the siren and blinking lights as they make him convulse. So THAT's the reason?!? Sounds valid to me. A QUARTER MILLION radio sets of one kind makes for some future surplus market, doesn't it? [that's the most of any one kind of radio system in government history...] Sure it does. And "surplus" radio gear has NOT been the preferred method of getting on the air by Amateurs for TWO DECADES....Not when folks can buy brand new, under warranty equipment for under $200. Tsk, tsk, tsk. For a nearly-fifty "olde-tyme" hamme nursie sure doesn't know much about surplus. :-) He's expert at wasting surplus bandwidth. Agreed. :-) If poor nursie is annoyed at not being spoon-fed enough info through hum radio magazines, then he should not try to mean- mouth those who know about such things. Tsk, tsk. Perhaps if you HAD been reading those Amateur magazines you'd understand a bit more about what you are talking about. tsk, tsk, tsk...nursie imagines others' worlds and doings instead of finding out. Interesting that a person who has written for amateur radio magazines has never read one. Len, you otta be ashamed. I know, I know. I go sit in corner. But you go right on ahead, Lennie... tsk, tsk, tsk...nursie getting on high horse again, forgetting which end is head and which is tail. :-) Even on a regular horse, he needs to mount the horse while standing on a stump. Can't imagine him ever getting on a high horse. Maybe he should stick with ponies. Wouldn't matter. He still won't read DoD Directive 4650.2 (eff. 21 Nov 03) or USN-USMC Communications Instruction NCP 8 (C). Nursie hasn't been able to stop many, despite his shouting, hollering, cursing, and threatening. :-) He will never run me off, as he has tried so many times before. Nursie no understand da Eengliss... [which may explain not understanding 4650.2 or NCP 8 (C)...] Actually, my words then, as they are now, are that what I did in the Armed Forces have nothing to do with Amateur Communications. Just like YOUR "link" with Amateur Radio, Lennie, those "happenings" only shared the theoretical basics of radio wave generation and propagation. tsk, tsk, tsk...translated, nursie never did any military communications at all (except maybe to use the day room telephone). :-) So that's what he was doing while assigned Bay Orderly. Typical. Well, technically, the telephones in the military buildings are government property or something like that. Since telephones are communications instruments and, being guvmint property, he DID "military communications!" :-) That may be the line of reasoning that Rev. Jimmie Who will present. Stay tuned. Nursie was involved too much in those "hostile actions" in the military. Must be the post-traumatic stress disorder thing showing in his postings... You never know what will set him off. I know! Isn't it exciting? - yawn - It's the application...not the physics...that separates you from the rest of us, Sir Scummy. tsk, tsk, tsk...more "meaningful discourse" from nursie? :-) You apply physics differently in amateur radio? Hmmm? I don't, but others seem to. You have to put yourself in nursie's frame of reference. In that, he imagines that absolutely NO electron, field or wave will operate at ham frequencies unless a person is absolutely licensed, certified, framed, and hung on the wall as a federally- tested servicemember. Not only that, below 30 MHz, the licensed, certified, framed and hung person MUST test for telegraphy. Absolute. No ifs or buts, not even in a butt can. Those who disobey that are forever afloat on the charybdis, or doomed to listen to the exhortations and general arm- waving along with dissing and cussing in this newsgroup. Sucks to be you. Only when I use either of the two Hoover appliances here. :-) Or the solder-sucker on the bench. :-) The melting point of solder is well below the temper temperature of nursie...easier to suck up melted solder than to put out the fires of outraged, angry egos such as nursie's... :-) He's like a phosphorous bomb. Lots of sparks and smoke. I keep thinking "pink smoke grenade" used in signalling. Pink to match the horror of reading profane words (oh, heavens!) or thinking that mooning is displaying "male nudity!" [purity and no profanity in telegraphy...ptui ] Smoke grenades smell bad when all fired up...but don't last long. "Code," "test," and "nuts" are all 4-letter words. I guess this must be all of what modern U.S. amateur radio is about...a bunch of mad-as-hell extras berating all the "lower classes." Nice hobby. For Huns and other barbarians...? LHA / WMD Len, they're not all that way. You ARE right. Most hams are good folks in their right minds. Unfortunately, any human grouping has some nutsos. Apparently, all the ham nutsos gravitated to in here after arthur and his ritis slowed down their dizzying high-speed fists! But, like the Big Hun (the other one who can spell in Hunnish) said, "being interested means being licensed" so therefore anybody without an official, nicely-engraved-border (suitable for framing) amateur license can possibly "show any interest" in radio. Nobody belongs in the RF world without that official, certified, government-approved ham license...and those aren't "real" unless a telegraphy test has been passed. Those are the words from On High. One last thing...PCTAs have so little sense of humor that everything is done in an oh-so-serious (!) manner, keeping always on the alert, ready to diss and cuss any NCTA in sight or hearing. [sort of the General Order #1 here]* * those who never went to basic or boot forget it... PCTA want WAR! NCTA just want to end the code test. PCTA are righteous, they are strong, hear them roar! Breep, breep... LHA / WMD |
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