Personally, I believe Amateur Radio Licenses should cost $75 per year for
regulatory fees and the Commission should elimanate testing. I also believe
that is how it will eventually be in the near future.

73,

Me

"Burp not Burr" wrote in message
groups.com...

"Minnie Bannister" wrote in message
...
The fee for a Vanity Call will rise on August 6 from $16.30 to $20.80.
This is for a 10-year license.

Doing the math, that comes out to about $2.08
per year, or 0.0057 CENTS per-day over the
course of a 10-Year period...........

How much do you wanna bet however that the
average traditionally el-cheapo ham radio operator
will ****-and-moan like a stuck pig over a 0.0057
Cent-per-day fee...??? (my guess is alot will !)

For example, I was selling at a hamfest in Pa last
month. Had a shoebox full of miniature tubes for
$1.00 each. A real bargain considering tubes are
going for much more on e-Bay. This putz comes
walking up, digs thru the box for 2 minutes and pulls
out *one* tube and wants it for 35 cents. I was willing
to let it go for 75 cents but he wants it for 35 cents.
No deal. He puts it back (tosses it) and gets all
smart-ass saying "you'll sell it to me later for 35 Cents."
The schmuck comes back 1/2 hour later digs it out
and asks for it for 35 Cents again. I say OK, offer to
wrap it, he hands it to me and while he's reachin for his
35 cents, I dropped the tube on the ground and smashed
it with my trusty Nike, then told him I changed my mind
and wanted $1.00 for it. This putz goes completely nuts saying
he's looked all over 4 hamfests for this tube and he
couldn't believe I smashed it. Jumpin up and down like a looney
and me quietly hoping he would have a stroke right there
as he must have weighed 300 pounds. A real "Eddie Slobbo"
fer sure - baaaaaa hahahahah!! I just laughed and offered
him a pleasant balance of the afternoon.

After he left the dealers either side of me were almost teary-eyed
laughing at the spectacle of this event, and we each shared a Pepsi
from my trusty Coleman cooler and had a nice late-lunch at the
pizza hut afterwards.

El-Cheapo hams....always too much FUN to pass up
the opportunity to poke'em-with-a-stick thru the
monkey bars !! : ) : ) : )

"me" wrote in message
news:FJQHc.62140$Oq2.29491@attbi_s52...
Personally, I believe Amateur Radio Licenses should cost $75 per year for
regulatory fees and the Commission should elimanate testing. I also
believe
that is how it will eventually be in the near future.

73,

Me

Doubtful that testing would be eliminated. International treaties require
that there is proof the operators meet minimum qualifications.

Since the FCC has given testing responsibility to the amateur community, the
FCC simply issues the license so they don't have any vested interest in
eliminating testing. And of course they issue the regulations and enforce
those regulations like they do for all communications services.

Besides testing is needed to attempt to insure that the licensees will have
learned the basics of operating. Hams have such a wide range of privileges
and frequencies that some basic knowledge truly is a necessity. We already
have enough lids slip through so let's not make it worse.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Subject: Vanity Call fee going up in August
From: "Dee D. Flint"
Date: 7/10/2004 7:19 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


"me" wrote in message
news:FJQHc.62140$Oq2.29491@attbi_s52...
Personally, I believe Amateur Radio Licenses should cost $75 per year for
regulatory fees and the Commission should elimanate testing. I also
believe
that is how it will eventually be in the near future.

73,

Me

Doubtful that testing would be eliminated. International treaties require
that there is proof the operators meet minimum qualifications.

Since the FCC has given testing responsibility to the amateur community, the
FCC simply issues the license so they don't have any vested interest in
eliminating testing. And of course they issue the regulations and enforce
those regulations like they do for all communications services.

Besides testing is needed to attempt to insure that the licensees will have
learned the basics of operating. Hams have such a wide range of privileges
and frequencies that some basic knowledge truly is a necessity. We already
have enough lids slip through so let's not make it worse.

Dee,

I was going to dismiss the troll's post simply on the basis that it was
written by someone who doesn't have the gonads to sign his/her name to thier
public comments (read that: coward) but then I got to thinking that there might
be something to it.

You know, of course, that I work in healthcare as an ER nurse...And you
would be absolutely shocked at the number of people who come to the ER in
distress because they claim they can't "afford" thier medicines...Of course
they either wreak of cigarette smoke, metabolized alcohol, or both...but they
can't "afford" medicine.

So...ballpark the number of Amatuers at 650K...At $75/license that is over
$48M a year for the General Treasury coffers. Of course for that I'd expect a
lot stricter policing of the bands by Riley & Co for it, but hey, let's do
it...

I am willing to bet that most of the idiots who are discipline problems on
the bands are smokers, too. That $75 would be a whole lot of cigarettes, even
at present day prices. And there is one ultimate truism...Smokers will forego
food, debts and common sense in order to buy more cigarettes (as will
alcoholics for more alcohol...). I am willing to bet the scufflaws on 75 and
20 meters would go away in short order after the extra money for enforcement
nails them to the wall.

My license is worth $75/year to me. I'd pony up the cash. And I can
promise you you will never see my name in one of Riley's "letters" on the ARRL
website!

73

Steve, K4YZ

and just who do you think you are that everyone should give their name and
call on here??? I certainly don't have to answer to you!!

Ciao,

Me

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote in message
...
Subject: Vanity Call fee going up in August
From: "Dee D. Flint"
Date: 7/10/2004 7:19 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


"me" wrote in message
news:FJQHc.62140$Oq2.29491@attbi_s52...
Personally, I believe Amateur Radio Licenses should cost $75 per year
for
regulatory fees and the Commission should elimanate testing. I also
believe
that is how it will eventually be in the near future.

73,

Me

Doubtful that testing would be eliminated. International treaties
require
that there is proof the operators meet minimum qualifications.

Since the FCC has given testing responsibility to the amateur community,
the
FCC simply issues the license so they don't have any vested interest in
eliminating testing. And of course they issue the regulations and
enforce
those regulations like they do for all communications services.

Besides testing is needed to attempt to insure that the licensees will
have
learned the basics of operating. Hams have such a wide range of
privileges
and frequencies that some basic knowledge truly is a necessity. We
already
have enough lids slip through so let's not make it worse.

Dee,

I was going to dismiss the troll's post simply on the basis that it
was
written by someone who doesn't have the gonads to sign his/her name to
thier
public comments (read that: coward) but then I got to thinking that there
might
be something to it.

You know, of course, that I work in healthcare as an ER nurse...And
you
would be absolutely shocked at the number of people who come to the ER in
distress because they claim they can't "afford" thier medicines...Of
course
they either wreak of cigarette smoke, metabolized alcohol, or both...but
they
can't "afford" medicine.

So...ballpark the number of Amatuers at 650K...At $75/license that is
over
$48M a year for the General Treasury coffers. Of course for that I'd
expect a
lot stricter policing of the bands by Riley & Co for it, but hey, let's do
it...

I am willing to bet that most of the idiots who are discipline
problems on
the bands are smokers, too. That $75 would be a whole lot of cigarettes,
even
at present day prices. And there is one ultimate truism...Smokers will
forego
food, debts and common sense in order to buy more cigarettes (as will
alcoholics for more alcohol...). I am willing to bet the scufflaws on 75
and
20 meters would go away in short order after the extra money for
enforcement
nails them to the wall.

My license is worth $75/year to me. I'd pony up the cash. And I can
promise you you will never see my name in one of Riley's "letters" on the
ARRL
website!

73

Steve, K4YZ

and OTOH, Riley is an ass...If he was smart, he'd have his own law firm
making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year defending clients against the
FCC. But working a Gov't job proves that he can't survive in the REAL
world, folks. I'll just give you a couple of examples of his stupidity.
First he tells hams that they can't operate on 146.52 and that they should
make contact and then QSY. Second, he tells us hams that we can't use
phonetics when ID'ing...I mean come on people, you don't need to be a rocket
scientist to know that!!

Ciao,

Me

"me" wrote in message
news:BVZHc.63953$XM6.30522@attbi_s53...
and just who do you think you are that everyone should give their name and
call on here??? I certainly don't have to answer to you!!

Ciao,

Me

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote in message
...
Subject: Vanity Call fee going up in August
From: "Dee D. Flint"
Date: 7/10/2004 7:19 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


"me" wrote in message
news:FJQHc.62140$Oq2.29491@attbi_s52...
Personally, I believe Amateur Radio Licenses should cost $75 per year
for
regulatory fees and the Commission should elimanate testing. I also
believe
that is how it will eventually be in the near future.

73,

Me

Doubtful that testing would be eliminated. International treaties
require
that there is proof the operators meet minimum qualifications.

Since the FCC has given testing responsibility to the amateur
community,
the
FCC simply issues the license so they don't have any vested interest in
eliminating testing. And of course they issue the regulations and
enforce
those regulations like they do for all communications services.

Besides testing is needed to attempt to insure that the licensees will
have
learned the basics of operating. Hams have such a wide range of
privileges
and frequencies that some basic knowledge truly is a necessity. We
already
have enough lids slip through so let's not make it worse.

Dee,

I was going to dismiss the troll's post simply on the basis that it
was
written by someone who doesn't have the gonads to sign his/her name to
thier
public comments (read that: coward) but then I got to thinking that
there
might
be something to it.

You know, of course, that I work in healthcare as an ER nurse...And
you
would be absolutely shocked at the number of people who come to the ER
in
distress because they claim they can't "afford" thier medicines...Of
course
they either wreak of cigarette smoke, metabolized alcohol, or both...but
they
can't "afford" medicine.

So...ballpark the number of Amatuers at 650K...At $75/license that
is
over
$48M a year for the General Treasury coffers. Of course for that I'd
expect a
lot stricter policing of the bands by Riley & Co for it, but hey, let's
do
it...

I am willing to bet that most of the idiots who are discipline
problems on
the bands are smokers, too. That $75 would be a whole lot of
cigarettes,
even
at present day prices. And there is one ultimate truism...Smokers will
forego
food, debts and common sense in order to buy more cigarettes (as will
alcoholics for more alcohol...). I am willing to bet the scufflaws on
75
and
20 meters would go away in short order after the extra money for
enforcement
nails them to the wall.

My license is worth $75/year to me. I'd pony up the cash. And I
can
promise you you will never see my name in one of Riley's "letters" on
the
ARRL
website!

73

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Vanity Call fee going up in August
From: "me"
Date: 7/10/2004 5:17 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: BVZHc.63953$XM6.30522@attbi_s53

and just who do you think you are that everyone should give their name and
call on here??? I certainly don't have to answer to you!!

No, you don't. That's your right.

And the Constitution guarantees EVERYONE the right to be a coward if they
so choose.

You chose. No problem.

If you place so little value in your own opinion that you won't sign your
name to them, what makes you expect that anyone else should take them
seriously?

Steve, K4YZ

"me" wrote in message news:BVZHc.63953$XM6.30522@attbi_s53...
and just who do you think you are that everyone should give their name and
call on here??? I certainly don't have to answer to you!!

Ciao,

Me

Welp, there's where you're wrong. Steve is judge, jury, executioner,
undertaker and worm around here. Get used to it. You play by his
rules or you will be stalked into submission.

Subject: Vanity Call fee going up in August
From: (William)
Date: 7/10/2004 9:23 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

"me" wrote in message
news:BVZHc.63953$XM6.30522@attbi_s53...
and just who do you think you are that everyone should give their name and
call on here??? I certainly don't have to answer to you!!

Ciao,

Me

Welp, there's where you're wrong. Steve is judge, jury, executioner,
undertaker and worm around here. Get used to it. You play by his
rules or you will be stalked into submission.

No submission, Brain.

I just keep pointing out your lack of character and honesty.

No stalking necessary...YOU keep feeding me the stuff necessary.

Thanks.

Steve, K4YZ

Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:


So...ballpark the number of Amatuers at 650K...At $75/license that is over
$48M a year for the General Treasury coffers. Of course for that I'd expect a
lot stricter policing of the bands by Riley & Co for it, but hey, let's do
it...



Won't happen, government budgeting doesn't work that way. All taxes and
fees collected get dumped into one giant pot, and Congress divies it up
regardless of the sources.

Robert Casey wrote:
Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:


So...ballpark the number of Amatuers at 650K...At $75/license
that is over
$48M a year for the General Treasury coffers. Of course for that I'd
expect a
lot stricter policing of the bands by Riley & Co for it, but hey,
let's do
it...




Won't happen, government budgeting doesn't work that way. All taxes and
fees collected get dumped into one giant pot, and Congress divies it up
regardless of the sources.

That is so they can keep money from agencies that could serve the public
and do some good, to other worthless projects that waste huge amounts of
money and mostly serve their own interest.