"Tony Viglio" wrote in message
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If you been in a radio club, you've seen your share of characters.
Ham radio has no shortage of all types of personalities.

Ever see this guy before? He just joined our club.

Comes to first meeting. It's pretty obvious he's is the hyperactive
overbearing type, talks constantly & loudly, dominates the discussion.
Says he quit such & such club because "they didn't like this and didn't
want to do that, they were a bunch of losers." Shows up second
meeting & proposes all sorts of changes to what the club has been
doing, wants to start this & do that, & go here and there. Volunteers
to head up all the committees, wants to bring in outside speakers
that will offer this or that to the club members. (The outside speakers
are family members or buddies of his). Does the majority of speaking
at the meeting. Again, makes mention of how his last club was a
bunch of losers and how happy he is to be a member of this great
club! At his third club meeting, he does ALL the talking and is the
center of attention. Some club members say they like him, others
remain silent. Can't wait to see what happens at the fourth meeting
with this guy. We're betting he will run the entire meeting himself.

A. I see our club breaking up, because some will agree with this
guy and others will want no part of him.

B. I see this guy being challenged and told to shut up, which will
probably result in him leaving our club, since we're all "losers."


Have you seen this guy before? Has he come to your club meetings?


Tony


And why aren't the officers maintaining control of the meeting?

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:

And why aren't the officers maintaining control of the meeting?

...it could be because they all left their Spanking Paddles
at home. :-)

LHA / WMD

Tony Viglio wrote:
If you been in a radio club, you've seen your share of characters.
Ham radio has no shortage of all types of personalities.

Ever see this guy before? He just joined our club.

Comes to first meeting. It's pretty obvious he's is the hyperactive
overbearing type, talks constantly & loudly, dominates the discussion.
Says he quit such & such club because "they didn't like this and didn't
want to do that, they were a bunch of losers." Shows up second
meeting & proposes all sorts of changes to what the club has been
doing, wants to start this & do that, & go here and there. Volunteers
to head up all the committees, wants to bring in outside speakers
that will offer this or that to the club members. (The outside speakers
are family members or buddies of his). Does the majority of speaking
at the meeting. Again, makes mention of how his last club was a
bunch of losers and how happy he is to be a member of this great
club! At his third club meeting, he does ALL the talking and is the
center of attention. Some club members say they like him, others
remain silent. Can't wait to see what happens at the fourth meeting
with this guy. We're betting he will run the entire meeting himself.

A. I see our club breaking up, because some will agree with this
guy and others will want no part of him.

B. I see this guy being challenged and told to shut up, which will
probably result in him leaving our club, since we're all "losers."


Have you seen this guy before? Has he come to your club meetings?

No, but I've seen enough of that type to know that they are bad news.
Your "great club" will be great as long as he gets his way, but perhaps
not even then, as this type of personality cannot be pleased for long.
Do what you will, but in 6 months, a year, whatever his particular time
frame is, all that will change. He'll want to kick the president out of
office because of one reason or the other. The sad thing is, he'll
probably be able to get plenty enough people on his side. Then after the
prez goes, he'll fixate on another so called loser. But inevitably,
he'll quit. No one or group can ever live up to his expectations. The
combination of the continued bitching about the previous club, and the
hyper aggressive early behavior are dead giveaways.

No normal person tries to change a club at their second meeting.

You really do have a serious problem. Best approach is to either dump
him, or to try to channel that seemingly boundless energy.

The first solution is the best.

Some people might say "people complain about no one wanting to do
anything, and someone shows up that does, and you want to get rid of
him." But that isn't the case. You're dealing with an off center
character here.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Dee D. Flint wrote:
"Tony Viglio" wrote in message
...

If you been in a radio club, you've seen your share of characters.
Ham radio has no shortage of all types of personalities.

Ever see this guy before? He just joined our club.

Comes to first meeting. It's pretty obvious he's is the hyperactive
overbearing type, talks constantly & loudly, dominates the discussion.
Says he quit such & such club because "they didn't like this and didn't
want to do that, they were a bunch of losers." Shows up second
meeting & proposes all sorts of changes to what the club has been
doing, wants to start this & do that, & go here and there. Volunteers
to head up all the committees, wants to bring in outside speakers
that will offer this or that to the club members. (The outside speakers
are family members or buddies of his). Does the majority of speaking
at the meeting. Again, makes mention of how his last club was a
bunch of losers and how happy he is to be a member of this great
club! At his third club meeting, he does ALL the talking and is the
center of attention. Some club members say they like him, others
remain silent. Can't wait to see what happens at the fourth meeting
with this guy. We're betting he will run the entire meeting himself.

A. I see our club breaking up, because some will agree with this
guy and others will want no part of him.

B. I see this guy being challenged and told to shut up, which will
probably result in him leaving our club, since we're all "losers."


Have you seen this guy before? Has he come to your club meetings?


Tony



And why aren't the officers maintaining control of the meeting?

I'll bet this guy is charming as anything, Dee. I've met the type, and
they kind of sneak in on ya.

- Mike KB3EIA -

"Tony Viglio" wrote in message ...
If you been in a radio club, you've seen your share of characters.
Ham radio has no shortage of all types of personalities.

Ever see this guy before? He just joined our club.

Oh yes. Once in a great while somebody like that shows up. Sometimes
they do it on a larger scale than the local club - Wayne Green is a
prime example.

Comes to first meeting. It's pretty obvious he's is the hyperactive
overbearing type, talks constantly & loudly, dominates the discussion.
Says he quit such & such club because "they didn't like this and didn't
want to do that, they were a bunch of losers." Shows up second
meeting & proposes all sorts of changes to what the club has been
doing, wants to start this & do that, & go here and there. Volunteers
to head up all the committees, wants to bring in outside speakers
that will offer this or that to the club members. (The outside speakers
are family members or buddies of his). Does the majority of speaking
at the meeting. Again, makes mention of how his last club was a
bunch of losers and how happy he is to be a member of this great
club! At his third club meeting, he does ALL the talking and is the
center of attention. Some club members say they like him, others
remain silent. Can't wait to see what happens at the fourth meeting
with this guy. We're betting he will run the entire meeting himself.

Does your club have officers and a formal agenda?

The trick is to let him actually *do* something. Let him bring in the
speakers or run the committees.

A. I see our club breaking up, because some will agree with this
guy and others will want no part of him.

Give him a chance to show what he can do.

B. I see this guy being challenged and told to shut up, which will
probably result in him leaving our club, since we're all "losers."

The trick is to give him an outlet for his energy.


Have you seen this guy before? Has he come to your club meetings?

He's nothing new. In the "Rotten Radio" stories of 80+ years ago
"T.O.M." describes the cast of characters at most radio club meetings.
Your new guy sounds like "Final Authority".

Put him in charge of getting a speaker and see what happens.

73 de Jim, N2EY

"N2EY" wrote in message
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He's nothing new. In the "Rotten Radio" stories of 80+ years ago
"T.O.M." describes the cast of characters at most radio club meetings.
Your new guy sounds like "Final Authority".


Say that sounds interesting. What were some of the other characters.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Tony Viglio wrote:
If you been in a radio club, you've seen your share of characters.
Ham radio has no shortage of all types of personalities.

Ever see this guy before? He just joined our club.



He's there because we threw his ass out of our club.

Enjoy.

Tony Viglio wrote:
If you been in a radio club, you've seen your share of characters.
Ham radio has no shortage of all types of personalities.

Ever see this guy before? He just joined our club.

Comes to first meeting. It's pretty obvious he's is the hyperactive
overbearing type, talks constantly & loudly, dominates the discussion.


Can't wait to see what happens at the fourth meeting
with this guy. We're betting he will run the entire meeting himself.



At one club I belong to (not radio, but here we are talking about
human interaction skills) a prospective member needs to visit and
participate in various activities (mostly informal and not at
all arduous tasks) for 8 separate club meetings (most meetings
are informal gatherings in the club house Tuesdays and Fridays)
(need not be consequitive). The purpose of this requirement is to
get to know the new guy and to see if we get along and like each
other. Someone obnoxious like the above radio club member is less
likely to be invited to join after 8 visits. And he as a visiter
would not be able to commandeer meetings and the club. This filtering
process has worked well, and we haven't had any serious interpersonal
problems (fist fights and such) happen. And we have a diverse group
of people anyway.

Once this guy decides that you're a club of "losers" and leaves,
consider installing a new member filter like this.

You really do have a serious problem. Best approach is to either dump
him, or to try to channel that seemingly boundless energy.

The first solution is the best.

Some people might say "people complain about no one wanting to do
anything, and someone shows up that does, and you want to get rid of
him." But that isn't the case. You're dealing with an off center
character here.






Exactly! You seem very familiar with the situation we are dealing with.



This sort of thing has been happening since cave man days. It
can get dicey if this guy is say the new boss where you work.
Quitting a job is not like quitting a club, especially when
the economy is in the toilet...

4 more months, not 4 more years!

In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:

"N2EY" wrote in message
. com...

He's nothing new. In the "Rotten Radio" stories of 80+ years ago
"T.O.M." describes the cast of characters at most radio club meetings.
Your new guy sounds like "Final Authority".

Say that sounds interesting. What were some of the other characters.

Well, there was T.O.M. himself ("The Old Man" - radio back then was a young
man's game, and someone over the age of 40 being involved in it was almost a
fossil). There was Young Squirt, with all the enthusiasm and optimism of youth.


73 de Jim, N2EY