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Old July 17th 04, 09:56 PM
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In article 5jeKc.97991$JR4.6118@attbi_s54, "King Zulu"
writes:

But when it come to this BPL junk, it's a case of big money
vs. logical technological decisions - and both the Democrats and Republicans
are subject to the big money payoffs.


But in this specific case, it's the Republicans who are pushing bad technology.


So, either party can take a shot at
fixing our economy and our international problems, but if Nader would take a
position against the power-industry-sponsored PAC bribes and their special
interest BPL agenda - he can have my vote.


Look what happened in 2000.

And I would hope (with an
anti-BPL position) Nader would also receive a lot of other votes from
concerned radio amateurs and communications people who care about the use
and abuse of the radio spectrum we all share. Nader won't win, but if the
votes he gets are enough to swing the election to either of the two major
parties, maybe - just maybe- the concerns of the almost half-million US
radio amateurs won't be ignored by both major parties, and some rational
appointments (technical, not all political) to the FCC Commission will
result. Just a dream, I know.


No, a nightmare.

Back in 2000, Nader got enough votes in Florida to ultimately tip that state to
Bush. Similar goings-on happened in other states. Exit polling of Nader voters
showed that if Ralph hadn't run, half of his voters would have gone to Gore, a
quarter to Bush and the other quarter to even smaller parties or they would
have stayed home. If you look at how many votes Nader got in Florida and
elsewhere, it's clear that if the above percentages had gone to Gore and Bush
we'd have a different team in the White House today.

In effect, by splitting Gore's support, Nader put Bush in the White House.
That's why the Green Party refused to support him this time around.

Remember Ross Perot? He did the same thing for Bill Clinton - twice! By
splitting the support for Papa Bush in 92 and Dole in 96, he allowed Clinton to
be elected with less than a popular majority.

But as long as our political leadership is
determined by who gets the biggest PAC bribes for their re-election, it
really doesn't matter which party has control.


Sounds like a rationale to avoid saying Bush's support of BPL is a bad thing.

The idea that a Nader vote will somehow stop BPL is misguided. I don't know
whether a vote for Kerry will help in the BPL fight, but you can be sure that a
vote for Nader will simply help reelect Bush.

And remember this plain, simple fact:

A vote for Bush is a vote for BPL.

73 de Jim, N2EY

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Old July 17th 04, 10:39 PM
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In article 5jeKc.97991$JR4.6118@attbi_s54, "King Zulu"
writes:

But when it come to this BPL junk, it's a case of big money
vs. logical technological decisions - and both the Democrats and

Republicans
are subject to the big money payoffs.


But in this specific case, it's the Republicans who are pushing bad

technology.


So, either party can take a shot at
fixing our economy and our international problems, but if Nader would

take a
position against the power-industry-sponsored PAC bribes and their

special
interest BPL agenda - he can have my vote.


Look what happened in 2000.

And I would hope (with an
anti-BPL position) Nader would also receive a lot of other votes from
concerned radio amateurs and communications people who care about the use
and abuse of the radio spectrum we all share. Nader won't win, but if the
votes he gets are enough to swing the election to either of the two major
parties, maybe - just maybe- the concerns of the almost half-million US
radio amateurs won't be ignored by both major parties, and some rational
appointments (technical, not all political) to the FCC Commission will
result. Just a dream, I know.


No, a nightmare.

Back in 2000, Nader got enough votes in Florida to ultimately tip that

state to
Bush. Similar goings-on happened in other states. Exit polling of Nader

voters
showed that if Ralph hadn't run, half of his voters would have gone to

Gore, a
quarter to Bush and the other quarter to even smaller parties or they

would
have stayed home. If you look at how many votes Nader got in Florida and
elsewhere, it's clear that if the above percentages had gone to Gore and

Bush
we'd have a different team in the White House today.

In effect, by splitting Gore's support, Nader put Bush in the White House.
That's why the Green Party refused to support him this time around.

Remember Ross Perot? He did the same thing for Bill Clinton - twice! By
splitting the support for Papa Bush in 92 and Dole in 96, he allowed

Clinton to
be elected with less than a popular majority.

But as long as our political leadership is
determined by who gets the biggest PAC bribes for their re-election, it
really doesn't matter which party has control.


Sounds like a rationale to avoid saying Bush's support of BPL is a bad

thing.

The idea that a Nader vote will somehow stop BPL is misguided. I don't

know
whether a vote for Kerry will help in the BPL fight, but you can be sure

that a
vote for Nader will simply help reelect Bush.

And remember this plain, simple fact:

A vote for Bush is a vote for BPL.

73 de Jim, N2EY


ABB eh Jim? Pathetic.

Vote Nader

Dan/W4NTI


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Old July 18th 04, 12:57 AM
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In article t, "Dan/W4NTI"
w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

Back in 2000, Nader got enough votes in Florida to ultimately tip that
state to
Bush. Similar goings-on happened in other states. Exit polling of Nader
voters
showed that if Ralph hadn't run, half of his voters would have gone to
Gore, a
quarter to Bush and the other quarter to even smaller parties or they
would
have stayed home. If you look at how many votes Nader got in Florida and
elsewhere, it's clear that if the above percentages had gone to Gore and
Bush
we'd have a different team in the White House today.

In effect, by splitting Gore's support, Nader put Bush in the White House.
That's why the Green Party refused to support him this time around.

Remember Ross Perot? He did the same thing for Bill Clinton - twice! By
splitting the support for Papa Bush in 92 and Dole in 96, he allowed
Clinton to
be elected with less than a popular majority.

But as long as our political leadership is
determined by who gets the biggest PAC bribes for their re-election, it
really doesn't matter which party has control.


Sounds like a rationale to avoid saying Bush's support of BPL is a bad
thing.

The idea that a Nader vote will somehow stop BPL is misguided. I don't
know
whether a vote for Kerry will help in the BPL fight, but you can be sure
that a
vote for Nader will simply help reelect Bush.

And remember this plain, simple fact:

A vote for Bush is a vote for BPL.

73 de Jim, N2EY


ABB eh Jim? Pathetic.


ABB? What's that mean, Dan?

Vote Nader


73 de Jim, N2EY
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Old July 18th 04, 05:03 PM
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"N2EY" wrote in message
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In article t,

"Dan/W4NTI"
w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

Back in 2000, Nader got enough votes in Florida to ultimately tip that
state to
Bush. Similar goings-on happened in other states. Exit polling of Nader
voters
showed that if Ralph hadn't run, half of his voters would have gone to
Gore, a
quarter to Bush and the other quarter to even smaller parties or they
would
have stayed home. If you look at how many votes Nader got in Florida

and
elsewhere, it's clear that if the above percentages had gone to Gore

and
Bush
we'd have a different team in the White House today.

In effect, by splitting Gore's support, Nader put Bush in the White

House.
That's why the Green Party refused to support him this time around.

Remember Ross Perot? He did the same thing for Bill Clinton - twice! By
splitting the support for Papa Bush in 92 and Dole in 96, he allowed
Clinton to
be elected with less than a popular majority.

But as long as our political leadership is
determined by who gets the biggest PAC bribes for their re-election,

it
really doesn't matter which party has control.

Sounds like a rationale to avoid saying Bush's support of BPL is a bad
thing.

The idea that a Nader vote will somehow stop BPL is misguided. I don't
know
whether a vote for Kerry will help in the BPL fight, but you can be

sure
that a
vote for Nader will simply help reelect Bush.

And remember this plain, simple fact:

A vote for Bush is a vote for BPL.

73 de Jim, N2EY


ABB eh Jim? Pathetic.


ABB? What's that mean, Dan?

Vote Nader


73 de Jim, N2EY


Its the Democrat cry...Anybody but Bush. Again...how pathetic.

Dan/W4NTI


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Old July 18th 04, 10:27 AM
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Vote for GWB!!1

Ciao,

ham op

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
k.net...

"N2EY" wrote in message
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ABB eh Jim? Pathetic.

Vote Nader

Dan/W4NTI






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I fully intend to.

Dan/W4NTI

"arrl" wrote in message
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Vote for GWB!!1

Ciao,

ham op

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
k.net...

"N2EY" wrote in message
...

ABB eh Jim? Pathetic.

Vote Nader

Dan/W4NTI






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Old July 18th 04, 05:31 PM
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excellent!!

ham op

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
nk.net...
I fully intend to.

Dan/W4NTI

"arrl" wrote in message
news:yorKc.106397$MB3.84021@attbi_s04...
Vote for GWB!!1

Ciao,

ham op

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
k.net...

"N2EY" wrote in message
...

ABB eh Jim? Pathetic.

Vote Nader

Dan/W4NTI








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Old July 18th 04, 06:12 PM
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"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
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I fully intend to. [vote for Bush]

Dan/W4NTI


Good for you, Dan - and I'll vote for "none of the above," also known as
Ralph Nader - as long as Mike Powell [previously with the Washington, D.C.
law firm of O'Melveny & Myers LLP, where he focused on helping clients in
matters involving telecommunications] is the FCC's chief cheerleader for
BPL. Not only is my vote in protest of BPL being rammed down our throats by
the power company PAC bribes, but because I'm tired of Democrats complaining
that Nader only subtracts from their traditional supporters.

ak



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"King Zulu" wrote in message
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"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
nk.net...
I fully intend to. [vote for Bush]

Dan/W4NTI


Good for you, Dan - and I'll vote for "none of the above," also known as
Ralph Nader - as long as Mike Powell [previously with the Washington, D.C.
law firm of O'Melveny & Myers LLP, where he focused on helping clients in
matters involving telecommunications] is the FCC's chief cheerleader for
BPL. Not only is my vote in protest of BPL being rammed down our throats

by
the power company PAC bribes, but because I'm tired of Democrats

complaining
that Nader only subtracts from their traditional supporters.

ak




I understand your position and have given it consideration myself. BPL is a
MAJOR issue for me, and believe me if other things were not so important I
too would vote for anyone but some nitwit that supported it. I honestly
think Mr. Bush was just advised wrong on this, and apparantly other, issues.

There are much more important issues here to deal with this election. I am
sick to death of how the Democrats are acting. They seem to think getting
rid of Bush is more important that saving the country. Sorry, I can't go
that route.

I am voting for BUSH.

Dan/W4NTI


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George Busch rules!!!

In article et, Dan/W4NTI
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I fully intend to.

Dan/W4NTI

"arrl" wrote in message
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Vote for GWB!!1

Ciao,

ham op

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
k.net...

"N2EY" wrote in message
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ABB eh Jim? Pathetic.

Vote Nader

Dan/W4NTI









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