On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 07:48:43 -0400, "Theatre of the Mind"
wrote:


"KØHB" wrote in message
link.net...

http://www.arrl.org/announce/bandwidth.html

Looks to me like another lame-assed attempt
by the Apple Rubbing Reamers League to
eliminate AM from the 75 and 40 Meter bands.

Pathetic......

Nowhere in that article does it say the ARRL wants to eliminate AM
from the 75 and 40 meter bands. Try reading with your eyes open,
instead of stewing in your seat with your eyes wide shut for a change.

Stacey/AA7YA

"s. hanrahan" wrote in message
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 17:08:04 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote:


"N2EY" wrote


- No CW-only subbands


There never have been any "CW-only" subbands on HF.

Sure there has, ever heard of the "Novice subbands"?

Stacey/AA7YA

General class and higher are allowed to use FSK in the novice segments so
there are no "CW-only" subbands on HF.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: ARRL to propose subband-by-bandwidth regulation
From: (William)
Date: 8/19/2004 7:34 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(N2EY) wrote in message
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In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:

"KØHB" wrote in message
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"N2EY" wrote

- No CW-only subbands

There never have been any "CW-only" subbands on HF.

That's true - but there should be!

Odd, when I was first licensed I could only use CW on 80, 40, 15, and 10M.

Wonder what kind of subbands those were?

Narrow band modes, Brainless Twerp, in as much as Conditionals, Generals,
Advanced and Extras could STILL exercise the full breadth of thier privileges
there.

Is this the part where The World's Greatest DXer comes in and mentions
that you consistently spell "thier" incorrectly?

You guys are so predictable.

The NOVICES may ahve been limited to using only CW, however NONE of those
"subbands" was restricted to CW only.

Never.

"Ahven't" they?

They were to Novices.

btw, anybody who says "CW is dead" should take a look at the ARRL 160 m
contest
scores.

73 de Jim, N2EY

What was your score?

What was YOURS? (More logbooks locked away, no doubt........)

What was yours?

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message ...
"William" wrote in message
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PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message
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In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:

"KØHB" wrote in message
thlink.net...
"N2EY" wrote

- No CW-only subbands

There never have been any "CW-only" subbands on HF.

That's true - but there should be!

Odd, when I was first licensed I could only use CW on 80, 40, 15, and 10M.

Wonder what kind of subbands those were?


General class and higher licensees can also use the FSK data modes here.
Thus they are not "CW only."

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Now tell me about the Novices.

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:

"KØHB" wrote in message
thlink.net...

"N2EY" wrote

- No CW-only subbands

There never have been any "CW-only" subbands on HF.

That's true

No. It isn't. You and Kelly are wrong. There was a whole class of
amateur that was allowed nothing but CW on HF, and other hams had to
abide by mode and power limits of those subbands.

- but there should be!

Ask the FCC to make you a Novice and you can have all the CW you can
stomach in what Hans calls the "novice ghetto." Maybe some benevolent
Extra will come along and give you a pity QSO. Hi, hi!

"William" wrote in message
om...
PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:

"KØHB" wrote in message
thlink.net...

"N2EY" wrote

- No CW-only subbands

There never have been any "CW-only" subbands on HF.

That's true

No. It isn't. You and Kelly are wrong. There was a whole class of
amateur that was allowed nothing but CW on HF, and other hams had to
abide by mode and power limits of those subbands.


Sorry but you are wrong. Although Novices were restricted to CW only in
limited subbands, Generals and higher could operate FSK in those same
portions of the spectrum. Check your FCC rule book.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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William Ask the FCC to make you a Novice and you can have all the CW
William you can stomach in what Hans calls the "novice ghetto."
William Maybe some benevolent Extra will come along and give you a
William pity QSO. Hi, hi!

Huh. The "Novice ghetto" is where I go to listen to slow code for
practicing purposes. It's also where I've had my single successful CW
QSO -- with a long-time ham who was willing to be patient with me.

Sounds like a nicer place than lots of other chunks of the ham bands,
and a hell of a lot nicer than here, if you ask me.

Jack.
(yet another nickel Extra.)
- --
Jack Twilley
jmt at twilley dot org
http colon slash slash www dot twilley dot org slash tilde jmt slash
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Subject: ARRL to propose subband-by-bandwidth regulation
From: s. hanrahan
Date: 8/19/2004 9:04 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 17:08:04 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote:


"N2EY" wrote


- No CW-only subbands


There never have been any "CW-only" subbands on HF.

Sure there has, ever heard of the "Novice subbands"?

They STILL were NOT "CW-only" subbands.

Conditionals, Generals, Advanced and Extras were allowed to exercise the
full breadth of thier privileges there.

They were NOT "CW-only".

73

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: ARRL to propose subband-by-bandwidth regulation
From: (William)
Date: 8/19/2004 1:07 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: ARRL to propose subband-by-bandwidth regulation
From: (William)
Date: 8/19/2004 7:34 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(N2EY) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:

"KØHB" wrote in message
thlink.net...
"N2EY" wrote

- No CW-only subbands

There never have been any "CW-only" subbands on HF.

That's true - but there should be!

Odd, when I was first licensed I could only use CW on 80, 40, 15, and 10M.

Wonder what kind of subbands those were?

Narrow band modes, Brainless Twerp, in as much as Conditionals,
Generals,
Advanced and Extras could STILL exercise the full breadth of thier
privileges
there.

Is this the part where The World's Greatest DXer comes in and mentions
that you consistently spell "thier" incorrectly?

And does THAT negate the fact that you were WRONG about YOUR assertion
that there are "CW only" subbands on HF...?!?!

You guys are so predictable.

As are you, Brain.

Try to hide your own inadequacies behind a typo I made...?!?!

The NOVICES may have been limited to using only CW, however NONE of
those
"subbands" was restricted to CW only.

Never.

"Ahven't" they?

Nope.

They were to Novices.

That's not what was said.

btw, anybody who says "CW is dead" should take a look at the ARRL 160 m
contest
scores.

73 de Jim, N2EY

What was your score?

What was YOURS? (More logbooks locked away, no doubt........)

What was yours?

On my desk. Didn't participate in the 160 test, though...Have in the
past, but not this time.

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: ARRL to propose subband-by-bandwidth regulation
From: (William)
Date: 8/19/2004 1:09 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
...
"William" wrote in message
om...
PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:

"KØHB" wrote in message
thlink.net...
"N2EY" wrote

- No CW-only subbands

There never have been any "CW-only" subbands on HF.

That's true - but there should be!

Odd, when I was first licensed I could only use CW on 80, 40, 15, and
10M.

Wonder what kind of subbands those were?


General class and higher licensees can also use the FSK data modes here.
Thus they are not "CW only."

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Now tell me about the Novices.

Why? You'll only try to redirect the reply behind a typo or some
irrelevent point.

The facts are there are NO "CW-Only" subbands on HF.

Steve, K4YZ