Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Alun
writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in
:

In article . net,
"Avery Hightower" writes:

RAC Bulletin 04-22E - Industry Canada Gazette Notice DGRB-003-04 on
Morse Code.

On Saturday, 28 August, 2004, Industry Canada published Canada Gazette
Notice DGRB-003-04 - Consultation on "Recommendations from Radio
Amateurs of Canada to Industry Canada Concerning Morse Code and Related
Matters", and invited comments. Amateurs have sixty days in which to
respond.

The RAC Proposal deals with the WRC-2003 decisions concerning Morse as
a mandatory qualification for HF operation in the Amateur Service. RAC
has recommended that Industry Canada delete the mandatory requirement
for Morse testing but leave it as a voluntary qualification as it may
be required for reciprocal operation in those countries retaining a
Morse requirement.

Amateurs should address comments to Industry Canada as directed in the
Notice. RAC recommends that Canadian amateurs endorse this proposal.

Amateurs with questions for RAC should direct them to their regional
RAC Director.

The Notice is available at:

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/inter.../sf06456e.html

Thank you for the link!

Any Canadian radio amateurs care to comment on that?



I'm not Canadian, but I think it fails to follw the KISS principle. They
want to add an Intermediate licence to their Basic and Advanced. Why don't
they just abolish the 'Plus' categories (i.e. plus Morse)? That would be
much simpler.

I'm not Canadian either as a "Carbo-American," but I think the "plus"
category is a sop to the existing Canadian mighty morsemen.
Canada must have its share of olde-fahrt hamme morsemen and
those must be "satisfied."

I have to agree with Hans Brakob in that our northern neighbor in
Norse America is doing the right thing for their future. Modernization
is long overdue. [excuse me...NORTH America...;-) ]

Industry Canada has much simpler regulations for their radio
amateurs but accomplish the same thing in the hobby.

Well, there you have it.

You're no more involved in Canadian amateur radio than you are in U.S.
amateur radio.

Dave K8MN

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Well, there you have it.

You're no more involved in Canadian amateur radio than you are in U.S.
amateur radio.

Jahwohl, Herr Oberst. Nicht gehabben ein Kanada amatur license!

click, click

I've "not been involved in radio" before 1947, other than listening to it.

51 years ago I got assigned to a major HF communications station
and was in that for three years. Got out of the Army and got into
commercial radio and the electronics-aerospace industry and
continued working in that until retirement.

I've had a commercial (professional) radio license for 48 years!

Of course that cannot possibly top your magnificent 41 years as
an amateur, can it?

By the way, since your Lordship doesn't understand it, I'm NOT
itching to get that mighty Nobel-quality amateur license...I'm just
trying to argue for the elimination of the morse code test for any
radio operator license.

I keep saying that but you refuse to believe it.

Either you are so damn dumb that you can't believe it...or you are
so corrupt and can't counter any arguments for the morse code
elimination that you INVENT other "causes" you claim I have.

Which is it?

"No matter what job, educational level, employer, or
government/military service that anyone has, if said anyone
opposes Heil's views, he/she will be the target of Heil's insults,
ridicule, name-calling, factual errors, ethnic slurs, total lack of
emoticons and social-interaction graces, acting in an arrogant,
elitist manner...for years" :-)

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Well, there you have it.

You're no more involved in Canadian amateur radio than you are in U.S.
amateur radio.

Jahwohl, Herr Oberst. Nicht gehabben ein Kanada amatur license!

Not quite correct, old Nazi-obsessed fellow. You haven't an amateur
radio license anywhere on the planet.

click, click

Your Nikon?

I've "not been involved in radio" before 1947, other than listening to it.

Super, Len. I've been an SWL and medium wave listener too.

51 years ago I got assigned to a major HF communications station
and was in that for three years. Got out of the Army and got into
commercial radio and the electronics-aerospace industry and
continued working in that until retirement.

That's nice for you. I'm sure you're very proud. It has, however,
nothing to do with amateur radio.

I've had a commercial (professional) radio license for 48 years!

Nor does this have anything to do with amateur radio.

Of course that cannot possibly top your magnificent 41 years as
an amateur, can it?

Not in a newsgroup concerned with amateur radio or in amateur radio
itself it can't.

By the way, since your Lordship doesn't understand it, I'm NOT
itching to get that mighty Nobel-quality amateur license...I'm just
trying to argue for the elimination of the morse code test for any
radio operator license.

Your statement simply makes your posts here all the more peculiar. You
have no stake at all in amateur radio.

I keep saying that but you refuse to believe it.

Oh, I believe it. I just love hearing you reaffirm it.

Either you are so damn dumb that you can't believe it...or you are
so corrupt and can't counter any arguments for the morse code
elimination that you INVENT other "causes" you claim I have.

Did I invent your idea for a minimum age for amateur radio
participation?
Have I invented the personal attacks written by you in comments to the
FCC?

Which is it?

I haven't recognized the validity of your premise.

"No matter what job, educational level, employer, or
government/military service that anyone has, if said anyone
opposes Heil's views, he/she will be the target of Heil's insults,
ridicule, name-calling, factual errors, ethnic slurs, total lack of
emoticons and social-interaction graces, acting in an arrogant,
elitist manner...for years" :-)

That's pretty stupid, Len. You've stolen the words of another, used
quotations and inserted my name. That pretty well sums up your style.

Dave K8MN

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: Dave Heil
Date: 9/2/2004 10:53 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil

writes:

Well, there you have it.

You're no more involved in Canadian amateur radio than you are in U.S.
amateur radio.

Jahwohl, Herr Oberst. Nicht gehabben ein Kanada amatur license!

Not quite correct, old Nazi-obsessed fellow. You haven't an amateur
radio license anywhere on the planet.

Well...there's yet another endeavor for which His Putziness obviously has
no practical experience...German.

click, click

Your Nikon?

More like his cane on the edge of the sidewalk.

I've "not been involved in radio" before 1947, other than listening to
it.

Super, Len. I've been an SWL and medium wave listener too.

51 years ago I got assigned to a major HF communications station
and was in that for three years. Got out of the Army and got into
commercial radio and the electronics-aerospace industry and
continued working in that until retirement.

That's nice for you. I'm sure you're very proud. It has, however,
nothing to do with amateur radio.

I've had a commercial (professional) radio license for 48 years!

Nor does this have anything to do with amateur radio.

Of course that cannot possibly top your magnificent 41 years as
an amateur, can it?

Not in a newsgroup concerned with amateur radio or in amateur radio
itself it can't.

Perhaps ignoring the simple facts is what kept Lennie moving from
"assignment" to "assignment"...Not being able to work on the details certainly
kept him from being a central figure in anything important in Pennsylvania.

By the way, since your Lordship doesn't understand it, I'm NOT
itching to get that mighty Nobel-quality amateur license...I'm just
trying to argue for the elimination of the morse code test for any
radio operator license.

Your statement simply makes your posts here all the more peculiar. You
have no stake at all in amateur radio.

I keep saying that but you refuse to believe it.

Oh, I believe it. I just love hearing you reaffirm it.

Either you are so damn dumb that you can't believe it...or you are
so corrupt and can't counter any arguments for the morse code
elimination that you INVENT other "causes" you claim I have.

Did I invent your idea for a minimum age for amateur radio
participation?
Have I invented the personal attacks written by you in comments to the
FCC?


Which is it?

I haven't recognized the validity of your premise.

Or his "premise" that the ARRL is "dishonest"...Or that he'll ever get an
"Extra out of the box", or that there's any "recreational" radio service...or
that etc etc etc ad nauseum. Lennie's just left a wide swathe of "or
that's...." left undone.

"No matter what job, educational level, employer, or
government/military service that anyone has, if said anyone
opposes Heil's views, he/she will be the target of Heil's insults,
ridicule, name-calling, factual errors, ethnic slurs, total lack of
emoticons and social-interaction graces, acting in an arrogant,
elitist manner...for years" :-)

That's pretty stupid, Len. You've stolen the words of another, used
quotations and inserted my name. That pretty well sums up your style.

Hey Dave...Plagerism earned him "big bucks" from Ham Radio magazine...you
know...that DEFUNCT periodical that he was such a bigwig at....

73

Steve, K4YZ

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...

Hey Dave...Plagerism earned him "big bucks" from Ham Radio magazine...you
know...that DEFUNCT periodical that he was such a bigwig at....

73

Steve, K4YZ

If only "Ham Radio" magazine were in publication today to run your

"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!" and other idiotic ideas.

But hey, there's QST, CQ, and World Radio. Go for it.

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/7/2004 8:39 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...

Hey Dave...Plagerism earned him "big bucks" from Ham Radio
magazine...you
know...that DEFUNCT periodical that he was such a bigwig at....

If only "Ham Radio" magazine were in publication today to run your
"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!" and other idiotic ideas.
But hey, there's QST, CQ, and World Radio. Go for it.

Too bad you're still quoting out of context.

But I guess that's the ONLY way you can "make a point".

You failed with your "I operated legally from Somalia" stories and your
"Unlicensed devices play a major role in emergency comms" efforts.

You're doing just as badly with your out-of-context "MARS ISAmateur
Radio" recitings.

Still sucks to be you. Still not getting it right.

Oh well......

Steve, K4YZ

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/7/2004 8:39 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...

Hey Dave...Plagerism earned him "big bucks" from Ham Radio
magazine...you
know...that DEFUNCT periodical that he was such a bigwig at....

If only "Ham Radio" magazine were in publication today to run your
"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!" and other idiotic ideas.
But hey, there's QST, CQ, and World Radio. Go for it.

Too bad you're still quoting out of context.

Nope. Those are your exact words, and you have had months to retract it.

Instead, you defend it.

Still sucks to be you. Still not getting it right.

Oh well......

Steve, K4YZ

Some civil discourse...

You're simply incapable of it.

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/7/2004 8:39 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...

Hey Dave...Plagerism earned him "big bucks" from Ham Radio
magazine...you
know...that DEFUNCT periodical that he was such a bigwig at....

If only "Ham Radio" magazine were in publication today to run your
"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!" and other idiotic ideas.
But hey, there's QST, CQ, and World Radio. Go for it.

Too bad you're still quoting out of context.

Nope. Those are your exact words, and you have had months to retract it.

Instead, you defend it.

Still sucks to be you. Still not getting it right.

Oh well......

Steve, K4YZ

Some civil discourse...

You're simply incapable of it.

In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

By the way, since your Lordship doesn't understand it, I'm NOT
itching to get that mighty Nobel-quality amateur license...I'm just
trying to argue for the elimination of the morse code test for any
radio operator license.

Why?

If you have no interest in
becoming a radio amateur,
why do you attempt to
change the rules?

(Quitefine) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

By the way, since your Lordship doesn't understand it, I'm NOT
itching to get that mighty Nobel-quality amateur license...I'm just
trying to argue for the elimination of the morse code test for any
radio operator license.

Why?

If you have no interest in
becoming a radio amateur,
why do you attempt to
change the rules?

Every American should have an interest in increasing the number of
potential emergency radio operators. You just never know when you
might need one, and Morse Code just isn't needed to be an effective
emergency radio operator.