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Old September 2nd 04, 06:24 AM
Len Over 21
 
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In article , Dave Heil das Oberst uff das
Amatur Schutz Staffell writes:

William wrote:

...beat up on the cordless Techs.


Gotta love it. I guess that's what they mean by wireless.


Ah, you actually got a gig as an Otto Preminger imitator?

Good for you.

Feel free to make fun of everybody's postings by writing more
of such "comments" in here...especially those whom you've
been unable to get along with for years.

Here's a nice little synopsis of the not-so-robust oberst:

"No matter what job, educational level, employer, or
government/military service that anyone has, if said anyone
opposes Heil's views, he/she will be the target of Heil's insults,
ridicule, name-calling, factual errors, ethnic slurs, total lack of
emoticons and social-interaction graces, acting in an arrogant,
elitist manner...for years" :-)

Pbthththth...


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Old September 8th 04, 05:13 PM
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"Avery Hightower" wrote in message link.net...
The Notice is available at:

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/inter.../sf06456e.html

A very interesting proposal!

What I find most interesting is that the proposal does *not* simply
say "drop the code test and leave everything else alone" - as did the
NCI proposal. Instead, it beefs up the written requirements by
requiring a higher passing grade. It also proposes *adding* license
classes.... (So much for simplifying the rules...)

The analysis of the multiple-choice testing method and guessing is
very interesting, showing how a limited knowledge of the material plus
guessing can result in a passing grade. The 60% passing requirement
seems low to me, but I suppose that our ~74% level would seem low to
others.

It's a refreshing change from the ARRL "Great Giveaway" proposal, and
the much much worse NCVEC "Much Greater Giveaway" proposal.

It will also be interesting to see how Canadians react to the proposal
in their comments.

73 de Jim, N2EY
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Old September 16th 04, 11:10 PM
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (Steve Robeson K4CAP)
Date: 9/16/2004 4:58 PM Central Standard Time
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From:
(William)
Date: 9/16/2004 4:15 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From:
(Quitefine)
Date: 9/12/2004 8:39 PM Central Standard Time
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In article ,


(Len Over 21) writes:

I am fully qualified, by long experience and training
to "operate" radio equipment.

The FCC does not think so.



I'm just not AUTHORIZED to emit
RF within U.S. amateur radio bands as a civilian.

You are neither qualified nor authorized to
operate an amateur radio station.


He's not "AUTHORIZED" to emit RF OUTSIDE the U. S. Amateur Bands

as a
civilian, either, except under the auspices of someone else's STATION

LICENSE.

Strange that we're not allowed to know another country's rules and
regs of amateurism, but now miracuously Steve Robeson does. Maybe
Earnest Angely said a prayer for Steve.


What "other country", Brian?

I've not said a single word about another country's "rules and regs of
amateurism".

The context of the posts were directly related to your mentor's lack of
legal authorization to emit RF inside or outside of the US Amateur Radio bands.
(Certain FCC exceptions to authorized unlicensed operation not withstanding).

Waiting for you to show us where you got the "another country's" business
from. I say you just shot your mouth off without thinking.

Steve, K4YZ






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Old September 19th 04, 02:37 PM
Steve Robeson K4CAP
 
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open for Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/18/2004 6:10 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From:
(Steve Robeson K4CAP)
Date: 9/16/2004 4:58 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From:
(William)
Date: 9/16/2004 4:15 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


He's not "AUTHORIZED" to emit RF OUTSIDE the U. S. Amateur

Bands

K4CAP: What "other country", Brian?

Whatever other country that Len might happen to be in.

What "other country", Brian?


Whatever other country that Len might happen to be in.

I've not said a single word about another country's "rules and regs of
amateurism".


You said, "OUTSIDE the U. S. Amateur Bands"

Len gets to decide what other countries. Then you have to
provide the rules that deny him access.

The context of the posts were directly related to your mentor's lack

of
legal authorization to emit RF inside or outside of the US Amateur Radio

bands.
(Certain FCC exceptions to authorized unlicensed operation not

withstanding).

(Such as the Part 15 and Part 95 devices that I rubbed your nose in,
notwithstanding?)

Waiting for you to show us where you got the "another country's"

business
from. I say you just shot your mouth off without thinking.


Sound's like brick is coming my way.


The "brick" is your own stupid assertions, Brian. If you'd do a bit of
thoughtful and careful THINKING before you hit the "SEND" key, you'd get far
less stuff thrown back at you.

I'll make sure my wife is prepared for terrorism.


I am sure she's prepared every night that you're next to her, Brian.

As for the rest of the post, you still aren't making sense (not that THAT
is unusual).

"Outside" the US Amateur Bands does not mean outside of the United States.

And as of today, Lennie still does not have a license to operate INSIDE
the Amateur Bands (of ANY country). Nor does he have a license to transmit
OUTSIDE the US Amateur Bands without an FCC issued station license. (As a US
Citizen, a foreign license of ANY nature is useless in the United States except
as a keepsake for Lennie...)

73

Steve, K4YZ






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Old September 19th 04, 08:07 PM
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open for Comment
From:
(William)
Date: 9/18/2004 6:10 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


I say you just shot your mouth off without thinking.


Sound's like brick is coming my way.


The "brick" is your own stupid assertions, Brian. If you'd do a bit of
thoughtful and careful THINKING before you hit the "SEND" key, you'd get far
less stuff thrown back at you.


What are you talking about?

So far I have no bricks through my window, no tires slashed, and my
wife and kids have experienced no terrorism. You're the only one
saying that I've "shot my mouth off."

But you "predict" the bricks, etc, are coming.

"Outside" the US Amateur Bands does not mean outside of the United States.


Why not?

Also, do radio waves respect international boundaries???

And as of today, Lennie still does not have a license to operate INSIDE
the Amateur Bands (of ANY country). Nor does he have a license to transmit
OUTSIDE the US Amateur Bands without an FCC issued station license. (As a US
Citizen, a foreign license of ANY nature is useless in the United States except
as a keepsake for Lennie...)

73

Steve, K4YZ


There are lots and lots and lots of JA's with HK2 and KH6 licenses.
Why is it not possible that Len has a Japanese or Mexican or UK
license?

Maybe he has a UK license and is licensed to operate in the MF bands
where the U.S. Amateur Radio Service has no authorizations.

You need to brush up on your foreign amateur radio rules before
shooting off your mouth again.
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Old September 19th 04, 11:33 PM
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open for Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/19/2004 2:07 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open for Comment
From:
(William)
Date: 9/18/2004 6:10 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


I say you just shot your mouth off without thinking.

Sound's like brick is coming my way.


The "brick" is your own stupid assertions, Brian. If you'd do a bit

of
thoughtful and careful THINKING before you hit the "SEND" key, you'd get

far
less stuff thrown back at you.


What are you talking about?

So far I have no bricks through my window, no tires slashed, and my
wife and kids have experienced no terrorism. You're the only one
saying that I've "shot my mouth off."


No, I'm not.

You're not paying attention.

But you "predict" the bricks, etc, are coming.


Everytime you make stupid assertions and then have to eat them, Brian.

"Outside" the US Amateur Bands does not mean outside of the United

States.

Why not?

Also, do radio waves respect international boundaries???


If you're TRYING to look foolish, Brian, you've done a good job.

And as of today, Lennie still does not have a license to operate

INSIDE
the Amateur Bands (of ANY country). Nor does he have a license to transmit
OUTSIDE the US Amateur Bands without an FCC issued station license. (As a

US
Citizen, a foreign license of ANY nature is useless in the United States

except
as a keepsake for Lennie...)

73

Steve, K4YZ


There are lots and lots and lots of JA's with HK2 and KH6 licenses.
Why is it not possible that Len has a Japanese or Mexican or UK
license?

Maybe he has a UK license and is licensed to operate in the MF bands
where the U.S. Amateur Radio Service has no authorizations.

You need to brush up on your foreign amateur radio rules before
shooting off your mouth again.


You need to know AMERICAN law, Brian. We are, afterall, discussing an
American citizen operating from American soil.

Lennie may very well have one each of the licenses you cited. Who cares?
They are as useful to him on US Amateur allocations as his GROL is.

So Sayeth the FCC.

Not a one of them is any good to him in the United States except as a keep
sake...Just as I said before.

So Sayeth the FCC.

The "home" license of the nations you cited above are only good in the
United States when used by the foreign operator, and only under specific
limitations. And even when the foreign license is used for basis of reciprocal
operating privileges, the foreign operator must obey American subbands.

So Sayeth the FCC.

If the foreign operator takes and passes an American license, s/he must
comply with the limits of THAT license, even if it grants fewer priviledges
than his/her original license. They cannot (legally) switch between "Kx6xxx"
on one occasion then "K6/xx9xxx" in order to exceed the priviledges granted.

So Sayeth the FCC.

An American citizen with a foreign Amateur license cannot use that license
on US soil or from US administered territories.

So Sayeth the FCC.

Now...try to stop being an idiot, Brian, and try to focus on reality. I
know it will be tough, but I know you can do it...You've done it (however
briefly) before.

Steve, K4YZ





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Old September 20th 04, 11:22 PM
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In article ,
(William) writes:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open for Comment
From:
(William)
Date: 9/18/2004 6:10 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


I say you just shot your mouth off without thinking.

Sound's like brick is coming my way.


The "brick" is your own stupid assertions, Brian. If you'd do a bit of
thoughtful and careful THINKING before you hit the "SEND" key, you'd get far
less stuff thrown back at you.


What are you talking about?

So far I have no bricks through my window, no tires slashed, and my
wife and kids have experienced no terrorism. You're the only one
saying that I've "shot my mouth off."

But you "predict" the bricks, etc, are coming.


He's "predicted" that he has the "professional qualifications" to make
one simple phone call to have "authorities come take us away." :-)

I'm still waiting. Was gone over the weekend, but no "authorities'"
notices were posted on the door... :-)

I wonder if Amelia has had the same "predictions?" :-)

"Outside" the US Amateur Bands does not mean outside of the United

States.

Why not?

Also, do radio waves respect international boundaries???


The air ace and veteran of seven hostile actions doesn't know about
radio waves and their lack of respect of human laws.

Tsk. For someone who demands all that respect, you'd think he
would get out of a radio hobby? :-)

And as of today, Lennie still does not have a license to operate INSIDE
the Amateur Bands (of ANY country). Nor does he have a license to transmit
OUTSIDE the US Amateur Bands without an FCC issued station license. (As a

US
Citizen, a foreign license of ANY nature is useless in the United States

except
as a keepsake for Lennie...)

73

Steve, K4YZ


Blabber, blabber by the gunnery nurse...who has NO AUTHORIZATION
to "operate" OUTSIDE of the amateur bands. :-)

Tsk, tsk. All that "authorization" rage! :-)

There are lots and lots and lots of JA's with HK2 and KH6 licenses.
Why is it not possible that Len has a Japanese or Mexican or UK
license?


No such possibility.

Actually, the Canadian rules are much better towards the ham hobby,
and look more attractive when compared to U.S. rules. Interesting.

No offense to Leo, but Canada has something called "snow" and
"rain" in the winter season. Not attractive to me. :-)

Maybe he has a UK license and is licensed to operate in the MF bands
where the U.S. Amateur Radio Service has no authorizations.


There's no "maybes."

My self-assigned task was simply to advocate the removal of the
morse code test for any U.S. radio license. No more, no less, but
a bunch of overly-prideful super radio extras think their Way of Life
is threatened and must "do battle." :-)

Removal of the code test would remove Life as They Know It in
ham radio.

No more brag claims about being the perfect morse operator, etc.

That alone has struck terror into their individual psyches. Tsk.

[in nursie's case, all his multiple personalities...]


You need to brush up on your foreign amateur radio rules before
shooting off your mouth again.


So far he's been shooting blanks. Lots and lots of flash and bang
but nothing lasting in the way of damage.

I'll just have to keep waiting for the results of that "phone call."

Hi hi.


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Old September 20th 04, 11:23 PM
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In article ,
(William) writes:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From:
(Steve Robeson K4CAP)
Date: 9/16/2004 4:58 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From:
(William)
Date: 9/16/2004 4:15 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


He's not "AUTHORIZED" to emit RF OUTSIDE the U. S. Amateur

Bands

K4CAP: What "other country", Brian?

Whatever other country that Len might happen to be in.

What "other country", Brian?


Whatever other country that Len might happen to be in.


I'm in the United States of America.

Really. California is just one of the 50 states of the USA. :-)

I've been into Mexico and Canada. Nice places. Good
neighbors.

I've not said a single word about another country's "rules and regs of
amateurism".


You said, "OUTSIDE the U. S. Amateur Bands"

Len gets to decide what other countries. Then you have to
provide the rules that deny him access.


Nursie is a Gunnery Nurse! He is also a PCTA extra. He doesn't have
to do a damn (excuse me, "darn") thing about what others demand!

Says so in his Oath of Allegiance or something that he vowed when
he joined the "service." [of amateur radio]

He is a veteran of seven hostile actions...knows who runs MARS...
and has the "professional qualifications" to make simple phone
calls to "authorities" to have them pick me or you up.

Not only that, we must wait in fear for bricks to come flying through
our windows or our wives terrorized!

Nursie has "threatened!"

yawn

The context of the posts were directly related to your mentor's lack

of
legal authorization to emit RF inside or outside of the US Amateur Radio

bands.
(Certain FCC exceptions to authorized unlicensed operation not

withstanding).

(Such as the Part 15 and Part 95 devices that I rubbed your nose in,
notwithstanding?)


Hmmm..."context of this thread" is all about "my having authorization
inside or outside of the USA?"

Could have sworn that the subject thread concerned "CANADIAN No
Code Proposal" which was open for comment...by Canadians.

Nursie stepped in and had to misdirect everything to his fabulous
FIGHT with each and every person who disagrees with him. Tsk.

Waiting for you to show us where you got the "another country's"

business
from. I say you just shot your mouth off without thinking.


Sound's like brick is coming my way.

I'll make sure my wife is prepared for terrorism.


Yup. "Steve and the boys" will Come To Your House and show your
family the Error of Your Ways! :-)

[I'd yawn but it really is too funny... :-) ]




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