Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:
Subject: Who peed in the pool
From: Mike Coslo
Date: 9/16/2004 11:38 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Len Over 21 wrote:


If you want to see where your faulty reasoning on "relationships"
is, just look back over the last two weeks or so of newsgroup
messages.


You three are in a co-dependent relationship. Denial is okay at this

stage.

No denial needed here, Mike.

Lennie and Brain have both asserted that I "can't help myself" from
responding to their trash, but some quick math will show that they are up on me
at least 4-to-one...Both of them frequently "divide" one of my responses into
several for responding purposes, making several "responses" to one post.

I do nicely without them. I wish they'd both go away...Not because of
thier differing opinions, but rather because neither of them can work on
getting thier "point" across without being mistruthful, abrasive or out-and-out
deceitful.

When I read your post comparing yourself to the "guy that runs in the
room and takes swats at the Piñata, I figured you out, as well as had a
good laugh - the visualization is priceless. But that told me a lot.

I've noted that you will be just as civil as you are treated.

I don't always agree with what you say, but that hasn't been a problem
between us, has it.

I've not had any particular trouble with Brian, but the other half of
the duo obviously has trouble with me, despite my refusal to get down in
the mud with him. just in his last couple posts to me, I'm accused of:

being mentally deranged from head trauma
smoking an apparently controlled substance
Having some undefined "problem
possibly called a schmuck

hmmmm, civil discourse indeed!

I'm firmly convinced that if they were to go away, or to start posting
in a civil manner, it would be just fine with you.

But I don't think the reverse is true.

- Mike KB3EIA -

In article , Mike Coslo writes:

I'm firmly convinced that if they were to go away, or to start posting
in a civil manner, it would be just fine with you.

But I don't think the reverse is true.

Tsk, tsk. Hypocrisy is the watchword of the PCTA extra Double
Standard.

Here's some quotes of the "civilized discourse" of another PCTA:

================================================== =
Ya flaming nitwit, you had no clue what an inverted L is until myself
and others patiently and labororiously explained it to you over many
early posts in this thread before you finally got the drift. That
ain't gonna happen agn on my part. At which point you finally decided
an L wouldn't be a solution for you. If you had half a brain you would
have posted a request for advice on antennas at the outset and
provided the specific installation limitations you have which you
eventually revealed late in this idiotic game. Ed asked you what your
installation conditions were but you ignored his offer and went back
to mindlessly hammering yer keyboard here instead.

But of course as we all know you don't have half a brain so
predictably your history has repeated itself. Somebody gotta be the
dunce around here so I guess you'll hafta do until Kim "un-retires"
from RRAP agn.

You can wriggle and you can squirm Burke but you can't help hanging
yourself by your own petard, you were born to shoot both of your feet
as often as you can in public. That's just the way you are.
================================================== =

From someone named "W3RV" in this latest group of "pool" mail.

I don't find going back through Google to endlessly rehash old, old
newsgroup "battles" where the long-ago wounded are still suffering
suppurating ego damage. Since this was in the current newsgroup
mail, the hypocrisy of "civil discourse" was funny... :-)

In here, the discourse of the PCTA should really be spelled
"Diss-curse." Hi hi.

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Mike Coslo writes:


I'm firmly convinced that if they were to go away, or to start posting
in a civil manner, it would be just fine with you.

But I don't think the reverse is true.


Tsk, tsk. Hypocrisy is the watchword of the PCTA extra Double
Standard.

Here's some quotes of the "civilized discourse" of another PCTA:

================================================== =
Ya flaming nitwit, you had no clue what an inverted L is until myself
and others patiently and labororiously explained it to you over many
early posts in this thread before you finally got the drift. That
ain't gonna happen agn on my part. At which point you finally decided
an L wouldn't be a solution for you. If you had half a brain you would
have posted a request for advice on antennas at the outset and
provided the specific installation limitations you have which you
eventually revealed late in this idiotic game. Ed asked you what your
installation conditions were but you ignored his offer and went back
to mindlessly hammering yer keyboard here instead.

But of course as we all know you don't have half a brain so
predictably your history has repeated itself. Somebody gotta be the
dunce around here so I guess you'll hafta do until Kim "un-retires"
from RRAP agn.

You can wriggle and you can squirm Burke but you can't help hanging
yourself by your own petard, you were born to shoot both of your feet
as often as you can in public. That's just the way you are.
================================================== =

From someone named "W3RV" in this latest group of "pool" mail.

I don't find going back through Google to endlessly rehash old, old
newsgroup "battles" where the long-ago wounded are still suffering
suppurating ego damage. Since this was in the current newsgroup
mail, the hypocrisy of "civil discourse" was funny... :-)

In here, the discourse of the PCTA should really be spelled
"Diss-curse." Hi hi.


And that had what to do with my statement to Steve? W3RV is Brian
Kelly. How can we have meaningful discussions when you keep bringing in
new material of unknown relevance?

- Mike KB3EIA -

Subject: Who peed in the pool
From: Mike Coslo
Date: 9/16/2004 12:23 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:
Subject: Who peed in the pool
From: Mike Coslo
Date: 9/16/2004 11:38 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Len Over 21 wrote:


If you want to see where your faulty reasoning on "relationships"
is, just look back over the last two weeks or so of newsgroup
messages.


You three are in a co-dependent relationship. Denial is okay at this

stage.

No denial needed here, Mike.

Lennie and Brain have both asserted that I "can't help myself" from
responding to their trash, but some quick math will show that they are up
on me
at least 4-to-one...Both of them frequently "divide" one of my responses
into
several for responding purposes, making several "responses" to one post.

I do nicely without them. I wish they'd both go away...Not because of
thier differing opinions, but rather because neither of them can work on
getting thier "point" across without being mistruthful, abrasive or
out-and-out
deceitful.

When I read your post comparing yourself to the "guy that runs in the
room and takes swats at the Piñata, I figured you out, as well as had a
good laugh - the visualization is priceless. But that told me a lot.

I've noted that you will be just as civil as you are treated.

Always.

One of my most productive "people skills" at work is putting a foot
forward to make people comfortable and allay thier fears. Not only the
patients, but thier families, too. You'd be surprised how the offer of a
simple cup of coffee or a soda can put people at ease.

I don't always agree with what you say, but that hasn't been a problem
between us, has it.

Nope. And I seriously doubt it ever will, Mike, if for no other reason
that you, like most of the folks here, can agree to disagree without having to
delve into the antics of Lennie the Liar and his oblivious sidekick, PuppetBoy.

I've not had any particular trouble with Brian, but the other half of
the duo obviously has trouble with me, despite my refusal to get down in
the mud with him. just in his last couple posts to me, I'm accused of:

being mentally deranged from head trauma
smoking an apparently controlled substance
Having some undefined "problem
possibly called a schmuck

hmmmm, civil discourse indeed!

Of course.

And we've all been treated to the "one of the guys" routine byt Lennie
until he's decided that you will not be his serf. He called me "Steve" and
"Gunny" until it was clear that I thought that Amateur Radio had much more it
could benefit from Morse Code use and testing.

I still believe that Morse Code testing would benefit Amateur Radio,
however the die has been cast and it's time to move on. I think Lennie hates
that of me more than he hates the fact that I can go toe-to-toe with his
assinine antics.

I'm firmly convinced that if they were to go away, or to start posting
in a civil manner, it would be just fine with you.

Yes, it would.

And in those times where either of them have been civil to me and weren't
making outrageous, obviously flawed statements either about Amateur Radio in
general or me in particilar, I have treated them accordingly.

The problem is Lennie WANTS to fight, and Brain just doesn't know any
better.

But I don't think the reverse is true.

About four months ago (give or take) Brian (since he was being civil at
the time) and I had several exchanges wherein we discussed his autistic child
and other such matters. It lasted about as long as it took for Lennie to rear
his head again after a brief sabbatical, and then it was right back to
"YellYell", "Murine", etc etc etc...

Once in a while Lennie throws us for a loop too. Once I posted an "Off
Topic" request looking for a particular aircraft model. "Len" offered a couple
of suggestions where it might be found. I relplied to "Len" with a heartfelt
thanks for his suggestions. His very NEXT post, however, was a scalding
chastising for being "off topic", etc. "Off topic" now that he'd had a chance
to have HIS say, of course, and now it was time to put the gloves back on.

The same thing happened when I was looking for a radio handset. "Len"
offered a suggestion as to where to look, but then "Lennie" went off on a
tirade about militias, the CAP, and being a "sojer in da woods".

Lennie can't stand being nice for very long. It's not in his character.
It's probably why his average job was about 24 months (according to one of the
many "CV's" he's listed here).

It's unlikely to change, Mike. Myself and others have tripped Lennie up
with his own errors and rhetoric so often that now I am sure it's a matter of
"pride" for him to continue to be "the victim". As long as he can portray
himself as "odd man out" rather than just the "odd man", he thinks he's got a
leg up.

The leg up is just so he can get a clear shot at whizzing on the bushes.
Don't be fooled.

73

Steve, K4YZ