In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

William wrote:

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message
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In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Who peed in the pool
From: Mike Coslo
Date: 9/17/2004 8:11 PM Central Standard Time
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Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:

Subject: Who peed in the pool
From: Mike Coslo
Date: 9/16/2004 6:49 PM Central Standard Time
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Len Over 21 wrote:

Tsk, tsk. You want a meeting with charts and graphs and an
experienced presenter to show you examples of the infamous
Double Standard?!?!?

hmm, maybe. *Your answer* is what needs explaining. If I don't
care
about your mode, nor Steve's mode of expression, and you two are on
opposite sides of the discussion, I need an explanation of why that
means that I have a double standard.

Tsk. Still need an "explanation?"

Not a good reply, Coslo.

Nor a good explanation.

Lennie doesn't HAVE a "Double Standard" that he can use as an
example,
Mike. That's why he dodged answering your post.

Nope, I took the summer off to rest a torn meniscus. Takes
longer to

heal as time marches on.

Who filled in under your name in here "all summer?"

What are you talking about?

You'll have to forgive Lennie...If you posted even once in that
time
period, he assumes that you anxiously devoured each and ever word he
wrote as
if there were no other nourishment to be had.

Or you may be smoking some "good stuff" that Bob Casey said I
was... :-)

nahh. nothing stronger than the occasional beer for me.

3.2 stuff? :-)

You smoke beer? How is that done? :-)

So. you deliberately misunderstand me to serve as the content
of your
replies? noted! 8^)

Of course. "The Dodge" (not the automobile). A typical Lenniesque
diversion from having to acknowledge a comment which might embarrass
him.

Tsk. You should get a subscription to Psychology Today and
fill yourself in on what "relationships" are.

It is okay. This happens all over Netnews. Don't let it bother
you too

much.

This is where Lennie gets most of his "education"...Periodicals
that
his
wife subscribed to...Of course he'd have everyone here believe that it
was
HIS education that carried the day.

If you know all this Steve, why bother with Len at all?

Because Steve lies, and Steve has a mission, and Steve is nuts.

Like the guy in the movie, Acropolis Now, he was lying on his back in
a hoe house, the ceiling fan started to look like a rotary wing
propellor, then he says, "I asked for a mission, and for my sins, they
gave me one."

No "hi, hi" on that one.

Here's the question Steve. I think I know the answer already, but let's
check it out.

As long as Lenover21 continues to post in his present style, I assume
that you are happy to post in retort to him. Yes?

%#$%&**@!!!

You actually asked such a question???

That was me that asked such a question.

The answer is that, to some folks, it's OK if Len does it but not OK if anybody
who disagrees with Len does it.

If you'll take careful notice, Mike, with rare exception over the last
few
months, I rare reply directly to anything he says. Most of it (like the
last
couple with you here) have been as a result of someone else's posts
echoing
him.

I'm pretty convinced that even though there are times you find him
exasperating, it doesn't upset you to make the posts?

What would upset me even more is letting a bully go unchallenged.

A bully? Len only has as much power as you give him. Proof of the saying
"He
who angers me, controls me. " Len works jard to anger you, so you'll come
off
the handle, call him names, etc.

Works EVERY time!

Note how upset he gets when people *don't* react in kind. Note how he's
trying
to get mild-mannered Mike Coslo worked up so that Mike will reply in kind.

Poor Mike. Supports Steve. Get's blasted.

No poor Mike. Getting "blasted" by Lenover21 is just part of posting here.

Unless you agree with Len on everything.

Whatsa nice guy to do? "Steve's not such a bad sort, I mean he never
called me kids..."

Yaknow, with all due respect, Brian, if you believe that your family
has been threatened, print out the offending email, and take it to your
DA. If he or she finds it to be credible and have merit, then
appropriate action will be taken.

Or you could file papers that would prevent him from ever communicating

with you in any form.


Consider, though, some of Len's threats against others:

2003-10-06

I wrote:

"Most American television and motion pictures are JUNK."

Len replied:

"Feel free to walk around this area shouting your "JUNK!" epithets. If you do,
make sure you have life insurance... :-) "


2002-03-04

At the end of a long post about hams with 1x2 callsigns who homebrew and
support Morse Code testing, Len wrote:

"Some one-by-twos need a two-by-four harshly applied to them..."


2004-06-21

Len's response to a challenge for physical exercise by Steve, K4YZ:

"Let's see...modern fighting tools (since at least 1700s) allow "just a few
ounces of finger pressure" to allow reaching out and touching someone
supersonically. No need for physical confrontation up close and personal."


2004-09-11

Len's response to W4NTI:

"Danny boy, consider that you make a big target. Fills the sight picture very
nicely. Just a few ounces of pressure..... [not talking about radio at all but
then Danny boy wasn't doing that, either]"

Looks like a pattern...

But Mr. Coslo doesn't work that way. I suspect his time on the ice is one
reason. (One trick in hockey is to do something when the ref isn't looking
that
elicits a violent reaction when the ref *is* looking. Result: Penalty box
and
your team is down a player for several minutes. Games are won and lost that
way. So Mike stays cool and collected.

And plays dirty?

As a Captain, it is part of my job to stay cool. And if you don't have
that ability, you aren't going to make it as one, because out on the
ice, there are a lot of people who would like for you to freak out. A
lot of them actually play and act in a style similar to Lenover21 and
your own. (two different styles to be sure) I'll be called names,
bumped, speared, whacked and punched.

So Mike has no trouble dealing with the likes of Len. Without replying in kind.

And I have helped other players to take penalties at critical stages of

the game, simply by skating up to them during the play, and asking them
how far they think they would fly if I checked them, or simply tap my
hockey stick against their skates. Even the occasional skateing of a
tight circle around someone. Sometimes I tell them I don't think they
have the power to knock a big guy like me over. Those who are prone to
flying off the handle will do it. I've picked myself up off the ice many
times, to find my team up by a man in a crucial part of the game.

And that is not playing dirty.

Of course, I do play a physical game. Sometimes that player finds out
how far he flies when I check them! ;^)

Amateur Radio is something that has enrichened my life and has been a
Godsend on more than one occassion.

Same for me. I think my background in ham radio got me into engineering
school and into a successful EE career.

Holey Moley! You're a real engineer? Got any land surveying under
your belt?

Could you explain just what you mean by that? Jim is an EE, and not a
surveyor. I don't get it.

Me neither.

Introduced me to a lot of good friends. Showed
me a world many folks don't even know exists.

Why should Len's words bother me?

So much so that you kill file him? Can't imagine it!

There's no reason for me to waste my time reading all of the nonsense Len and
Brian Burke post here. Nor to waste my computer and online capacity downloading
it. I see enough of it in others' replies to know I'm making the right choice.

To allow a creep like Anderscum to trash it unabated would be
unthinkable.

His words have only as much power as you give them. Calling him "Anderscum"
simply lowers you to his level.

Absolutely. And Jim's "Dr. Fill" persona isn't nearly enough to work
on Steve's psychophenomenon.

Dr. Fill?

Can't you see that's what he wants?

Everyone but Steve sees it!!!

Doesn't that clue you in the least???

Sorry Han's, Steve IS Controlled by Len!

Hi, hi!

The three of you control each other. All of you get what you are
looking for.

Exactly, Mike.

ESPECIALLY when he is so blatantly wrong on so many occassions.

Then point out the errors without the name calling.

In-friggin-possible!!!

I also believe that for good or bad, you enjoy it to a certain extent.

Only that it lends some balance to his mistruthfulness and deceit.

When you call him "Lennie" and "anderscum" and go off on his wife or
whatever,
it undermines *your* credibility. Which is just what he wants.

Hellooooooooo?????????

Steve's just lucky that Len doesn't pick up the phone!!!

So you guys have a relationship. It's a pretty strange one, made easier
by Netnews, but this sort of thing has existed for a long time. It's the
old Winston Churchhill/Lady Astor thing. They traded barbs with each
other, and I have to believe they enjoyed it.

Was it Lady Astor who said to Sir Winston:

"My good sir, I do believe you are drunk!"

"Yes, m'lady, I am. And you are quite ugly. But tomorrow I will be
sober...."

That was mean.

Wrong quote too! And wrong person

Yep! I stand corrected.

And Steve is crazy. Tomorrow, Steve will still be
crazy, Lady Astor will still be ugly, and Len will still be laughing
at you guys.

Lady Astor was most certainly *not* ugly

http://www.jssgallery.org/Paintings/Lady_Astor.htm

Agreed! Thanks, Mike - enjoyed the site very much.

His comeback about the coffee is classic.

73 de Jim, N2EY