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October 14th 04, 08:03 PM

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article , "Kim"
writes:

"N2EY" wrote in message
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In article ,
(Steve

In article ,

(Len Over 21) writes:

Morse code is slower that ALL modes.

"slower that ALL"??

Dug this up this morning. Goodness, it's getting hard to find anything on
this newsgroup that is really worth even bothering with.

"Morse code is slower than ALL modes." Hmmmm, that's a rather interesting
observation. I think it would have to be determined on when and where.
If
there's a CW net in progress and there are not very experienced people,
then
it probably would be pretty darned slow--and repetitive.

Kim, you are welcome to hold any belief system you wish, but the
FACT that on-off-keyed "CW" morse IS the slowest communications
mode in use today or in use a half century ago. I've seen it up close
and personal throughout this whole past half century. It is evidenciary
in the REST of the radio communications world.

The slowest teleprinter rates of a half century ago was 60 WPM and,
to some degree still with old, worn-out surplus teleprinters of that
era. With Mark-Space shift of 170 Hz, those old, cranky 60 WPM
Teletypes need less than 400 Hz of bandwidth to transmit in FSK.
Those ancient machines (already around well before Jimmie was
born) can run continuously at 60 WPM throughput as long as they
are fed paper rolls and paper tape. I once watched over 200 such
teleprinters busy, busy working continuously 24/7 in the same
place on several "networks."

The old electromechanical Teletypes of the 1970s can sustain 100
WPM throughput as long as the old 1940s era machines did. A
modern PC can emulate either of them and go faster, having much
more mass memory to store archives of network messages.

It is the EXCEPTIONAL rarity now to find any two morsemen at
each end of a ham radio circuit who can do SUSTAINED "network"
communications by on-off-keyed "CW" morse at 40 WPM for
hours. HOURS. Networks need hours if the number of messages
are great.

I've known a couple of speed freak morsemen who had regular
QSOs along the California coast, doing bursting rates of about
60 WPM for a minute or so at a time. I took their word for it, not
hearing their ham transmissions. A minute or so at a high rate of
morse is not good enough for real networking, copying down and
recording for later re-transmission of message content.

However, under dire circumstances when, presumably, a CW net would be
underway with very experienced communicators and would be the fastest,
most
efficient method of communication (hands down, no pun intended). For
once,
this is a thread wherein the real point of CW can be highlighted. CW may
or
may not ALWAYS be the "one mode that gets through when no other will."
But,
it's hard to argue that CW--if clear and done well--is the fastest and
most
efficient mode.

Nonsense alive and well only in the imaginative fantasies of mighty
macho morsemen. Real networks don't operate on imagination.
"Error-free" messages don't get relayed through self-glorified boasting.

The rest of the radio communications AND wire communications world
learned that between a full century and a half century ago. That's why
NONE of them use morse code for message communications now.

All that said, I think that radiotelegraphy IS faster than the old
British
and French semaphore communications systems. Morse radio-
telegraphy IS faster than the pony express and IS faster than paper
surface mail. Radiotelegraphy does reach out farther than the human
voice can transmit unaided by anything but the human body.
Other than that, morse radiotelegraphy still remains the slowest
mode of communications available to radio amateurs.

Those who want to fantasize that morse is "faster" or "better" will
have to set up a controlled test NOT in morse favor to demonstrate
that alleged fact. Let all those might macho morsemen sustain
20 to 40 WPM continuously for an 8-hour period...and do the
communications with LESS error than any teleprinter circuit.

Jim has stated that the throughput of a rtty system may be limited by
the typing speed of the operator. The example he used is that the
rtty operator might only be able to type 10wpm, thus rendering the
rtty a 10wpm machine.

Jimmie apparently has lots and lots of teleprinter inexperience to
draw contusions from. Hi hi.

The old, old Teletypes could be handled by relatively inexperienced
touch typists at about 40 WPM without preparing any p-tape. Not
a problem as I found out in the Army after a year's absence from
any typing device and four years after taking my first middle school
typing class. After a week of that, simple practice allowed doing it
at the machine maximum of 60 WPM. [the Model 15 through
Model 19 would actually "kick back" and refuse to accept key
input faster than 60 WPM].

There's somewhat the same keyboard lock-out at maximum rate
in the Model 28s and later that are 100 WPM maximums. Few
touch typists can go that fast except in bursts.

It's a fact, visible to anyone around a real communications center,
that p-tape is what is used for continuous throughput. It was that
way during WW2 at Washington Army Radio and continued on
through AUTODIN days until the DSN replaced almost all of it.

Even though Jimmie is ready to make remarks about an older
article on "morse code mainstay" (or something like it) at WAR,
the Signal Corps historical facts are that teleprinting was the
bulk message carrier in the U.S. military back in WW2 times.

I responded that the throughput of a CW system might be limited by the
Morse Code operator only knowing the code at 10wpm.

That's totally irrelevant when trying to "discuss" morsemanship
with a morseman. :-)

Morsemanship is always "discussed" by morsemen at the highest
possible rates, of course with zero errors at both ends of the
circuit. Non-morse communications are always done (according
to morsemen) at the slowest possible rates and with a maximum
of errors.

So, according to the mighty macho morsemen, all those OTHER
radio services NOT using morse code for messaging are always
"in error," "telling lies," "misrepresenting the facts," etc. :-)

Tsk. All those other radio services involved in communications
simply stopped using on-off keyed "CW" morse because it was
slow, error-prone, and subject to human frailties of many kinds.

I wanted to know how that was different from his example. So far no
response.

Don't expect any. :-)

Jimmie dreams his dreams of being the Best, or at least among
the very best morsemen at a time when the rest of the world has
gotten on with change and long ago changed to newer, faster,
better techniques of communications by radio.

He wants all of amateur radio to idolize, revere, respect, and honor
morsemen and to keep on recreating the past of the 30s and 20s
when the real radio communications pioneering was going on. Not
having existed at that time, he wants to relive it over and over again
to the point of making tube rigs during the 1990s as an example of
"advancing the state of the amateur radio art." [using "recycled"
parts, of course...:-) ] Recycled "state of the art" also.

The Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society should be proud of him. :-)

October 14th 04, 10:35 PM

Subject: Doing Battle? Can't Resist Posting?
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 10/14/2004 2:03 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Jimmie dreams his dreams...(SNIP)

I see that Jim Miccolis still calls you "Len" or "Mr Anderson", yet you
still engage him with disrespectful diminutives despite insisting you don't
address other people that way unless they do you that way.

Ever the liar.

And I am sure THEY are proud of you too. I am sure you represent the
highest calibre of what the American engineering community has to offer.

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

October 15th 04, 01:52 AM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Doing Battle? Can't Resist Posting?
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 10/14/2004 2:03 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

And I am sure THEY are proud of you too. I am sure you represent the
highest calibre of what the American engineering community has to offer.

Putz.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. I'm proud to be a member of the electronic engineering
community and of the Institute for Electrical and Electronic Engineers
professional organization. I became a Life Member without paying
anything extra and even gained...no more membership dues required
from Life Members!

Sunnuvagun!

But, I've never represented myself as being any "highest calibre [sic]"
and there are thousands more skilled in the profession than I. Of
course, to those who are ignorant of the most basic electrical
theories, I'm sure that a working knowledge of most radio circuits
would appear as astounding, almost science fiction. [pun not
obvious to any long-time Analog readers, heh heh]

From your standpoint as an ex-purchasing agent for a small company
who couldn't hack that for more than about a half year, I doubt you
possess enough smarts to do a reasonable evaluation of what real
engineers do, know, or act. :-)

Sunnuvagun!

Tsk, tsk. You went and used that Yiddish pejorative of "Putz,"
meaning "penis head," again.

Must be that PCTA extra Double Standard thing. Sir James of
Miccolis may or may not slap you on the wrist with a moist hankie
for that. Probably not. Sir James has not been in the best of moods
since he got his "state of the art" (with tubes) "type 7" unrewarded
with gratuitous praise, admiration, and respect for his 1990s design.
The noble laureate is concentrating on more nastygrams against
those who dare call a kluge a kluge. :-)

So, big "qualified" medical health professional, have you "dialled"
and made that "call to authorities" yet? I'm just sitting here waiting
for some other things to arrive. Good opportunity for those
"authorities" (under your mighty telephoned orders, of course) to
come and "have me committed!" :-)

October 15th 04, 03:48 AM

Subject: Doing Battle? Can't Resist Posting?
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 10/14/2004 7:52 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Doing Battle? Can't Resist Posting?
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 10/14/2004 2:03 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

And I am sure THEY are proud of you too. I am sure you represent the
highest calibre of what the American engineering community has to offer.

Putz.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. I'm proud to be a member of the electronic engineering
community and of the Institute for Electrical and Electronic Engineers
professional organization. I became a Life Member without paying
anything extra and even gained...no more membership dues required
from Life Members!

Doesn't matter how you came into your membership, Lennie. If I were an
officer of the IEEE and had occassion to see how you "represent" engineers in
general and the IEEE in particular, I'd see what I could do to remove you from
my rolls.

Sunnuvagun!

Sunnuvagun, indeed...

But, I've never represented myself as being any "highest calibre [sic]"
and there are thousands more skilled in the profession than I.

And there are even MORE thousands more skilled than you in the Amateur
Radio Service.

And yes, you HAVE represented yourself as being of the "highest calibre",
and yes that suggestion is VERY sic[k].

Of course, to those who are ignorant of the most basic electrical
theories, I'm sure that a working knowledge of most radio circuits
would appear as astounding, almost science fiction. [pun not
obvious to any long-time Analog readers, heh heh]

Those of us that use the technology everyday are hardly "astound(ed)" by
it...And certainly in as much as YOU had absolutely nothing to do with it,
Lennie.

From your standpoint as an ex-purchasing agent for a small company
who couldn't hack that for more than about a half year...(SNIP)

Wrong again, Lennie, but then facts aren't your strongpoint.

(UNSNIP)...I doubt you
possess enough smarts to do a reasonable evaluation of what real
engineers do, know, or act.

Then we have something in common, Lennie. Neither did you

Sunnuvagun!

Sunnuvagun, indeed.

Tsk, tsk. You went and used that Yiddish pejorative of "Putz,"
meaning "penis head," again.

Well, Lennie...It fits, what can I say? You lie. You don't get your
facts right. You misrepresent factual events, you are deceitful and just plain
lousy as human beings go.

Must be that PCTA extra Double Standard thing. Sir James of
Miccolis may or may not slap you on the wrist with a moist hankie
for that. Probably not. Sir James has not been in the best of moods
since he got his "state of the art" (with tubes) "type 7" unrewarded
with gratuitous praise, admiration, and respect for his 1990s design.
The noble laureate is concentrating on more nastygrams against
those who dare call a kluge a kluge.

So, while chastising me for some perceived personal transgression, you
furhter perpetuate yet another LennieLie by yet again using diminutives Jim
Micciolis, despite the fact that he does nothing of the like to you.

So, big "qualified" medical health professional, have you "dialled"
and made that "call to authorities" yet? I'm just sitting here waiting
for some other things to arrive. Good opportunity for those
"authorities" (under your mighty telephoned orders, of course) to
come and "have me committed!"

Indeed I did have some conversations with folks very close to you, Lennie.

Interesting stuff, too. Brought me up-to-date on Chapter 5150, and what
are recordable events, etc.

A report by a duly-licensed healthcare worker is a recordable event. It
may or maynot warrant an investigation, however files are started and any
similar report by another licensed person or law enforcement flags the
subject's name in future investigations.

Aren't you glad you asked?

Steve, K4YZ

October 15th 04, 10:02 PM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Doing Battle? Can't Resist Posting?
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 10/14/2004 7:52 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Doing Battle? Can't Resist Posting?
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 10/14/2004 2:03 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

And I am sure THEY are proud of you too. I am sure you represent the
highest calibre of what the American engineering community has to offer.

Putz.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. I'm proud to be a member of the electronic engineering
community and of the Institute for Electrical and Electronic Engineers
professional organization. I became a Life Member without paying
anything extra and even gained...no more membership dues required
from Life Members!

Doesn't matter how you came into your membership, Lennie. If I were an
officer of the IEEE and had occassion to see how you "represent" engineers in
general and the IEEE in particular, I'd see what I could do to remove you
from my rolls.

Tsk, you can't even remove rolls from a bakery... :-)

1. Nursie is NOT a member of the IEEE, can't even qualify.

2. Nursie is NOT therefore any "officer" in the IEEE.

3. I've been in the annual IEEE Membership Directory for years; anyone
having an access to that book can see it.

4. Nursie's "removal vision" is seeing things in his fantasy
wish-fulfillment.

Those of us that use the technology everyday are hardly "astound(ed)" by
it...And certainly in as much as YOU had absolutely nothing to do with it,
Lennie.

Tsk, tsk. Many olde-tymers in here have expressed wonder at the
magic of radio. That's a nice emotional thought, nothing wrong with it.

However, "magic" it isn't since it is bounded by laws of physics and
repeatable by those who can handle it.

From your standpoint as an ex-purchasing agent for a small company
who couldn't hack that for more than about a half year...(SNIP)

Wrong again, Lennie, but then facts aren't your strongpoint.

So...you LIED about working as a purchasing agent? :-)

Tsk, tsk. You went and used that Yiddish pejorative of "Putz,"
meaning "penis head," again.

Well, Lennie...It fits, what can I say? You lie. You don't get your
facts right. You misrepresent factual events, you are deceitful and just
plain lousy as human beings go.

Tsk. You DID use the word "Putz." Again. Many times.

That's not "deceit." Everyone else who reads here saw it. :-)

So, while chastising me for some perceived personal transgression, you
furhter perpetuate yet another LennieLie by yet again using diminutives
Jim Micciolis, despite the fact that he does nothing of the like to you.

Tsk. I've written nothing to some "Jim Micciolis." :-)

So, big "qualified" medical health professional, have you "dialled"
and made that "call to authorities" yet? I'm just sitting here waiting
for some other things to arrive. Good opportunity for those
"authorities" (under your mighty telephoned orders, of course) to
come and "have me committed!"

Indeed I did have some conversations with folks very close to you,
Lennie.

Tsk, Tsk, TSK! You've had NOTHING of the kind. You blatantly LIE.

The only "conversations" you've had are with your alternate
personalities in your head...

Interesting stuff, too. Brought me up-to-date on Chapter 5150, and what
are recordable events, etc.

"Chapter?" What "chapter" and from what? A work of fiction? Nursie
seems to be confusing Lewis Carroll's "Through The Looking Glass"
with reality. Too many trips through that "glass" with the Mad Hatter...
:-)

A report by a duly-licensed healthcare worker is a recordable event. It
may or maynot warrant an investigation, however files are started and any
similar report by another licensed person or law enforcement flags the
subject's name in future investigations.

Tsk. More implied threats, compounding the original lie. Nursie's
list of threats grows and grows like a magical beanstalk...but with
no giant at the top...

Want "investigations?" Investigate your own blathering outpourings
of implied threats in here. Plenty enough for some shrinks to make
a recycled paper of...

Feel free to send a letter to Tom Ridge, if you want. :-)

Or the FBI. Or the CIA. Or the DIA. Or even the IBEW. :-)

[try not to use crayon again...they didn't like that the last time...]

Tsk. Get some REAL medical help, nursie...your meds just
aren't working...too many side effects visible to all readers here.

October 16th 04, 04:44 PM

Subject: Doing Battle? Can't Resist Posting?
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 10/15/2004 4:02 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

1. Nursie is NOT a member of the IEEE, can't even qualify.

And with "role models" like you, do you think I'd want to join?

I could be a pathological liar without paying the dues, Lennie.

From your standpoint as an ex-purchasing agent for a small company
who couldn't hack that for more than about a half year...(SNIP)

Wrong again, Lennie, but then facts aren't your strongpoint.

So...you LIED about working as a purchasing agent?

Nope.

But you still don't have your facts right, Lennie.

Do some research. Get it right. You DO know how to do RESEARCH, don't
you Mr Engineer?

Well, Lennie...It fits, what can I say? You lie. You don't get your
facts right. You misrepresent factual events, you are deceitful and just
plain lousy as human beings go.

Tsk. You DID use the word "Putz." Again. Many times.

That's not "deceit." Everyone else who reads here saw it.

You are a putz, Lennie.

Everytime you enter this forum and try to play "King of the Hill" you
prove it.

So, while chastising me for some perceived personal transgression, you
furhter perpetuate yet another LennieLie by yet again using diminutives
Jim Micciolis, despite the fact that he does nothing of the like to you.

Tsk. I've written nothing to some "Jim Micciolis."

Ahhhh...I see.....

Slide out on my addition of an "i" to Jim's surename.

But you sure HAVE written to "Parson Jim", "Jimmie", "Reverend Jim", and
other diminuitives for Jim Miccolis.

He has never used any alteration of your name except as you have, ie: Len,
Leonard, or Mr. Anderson.

Really puts some perspective on who the real men are here and who's a
putz.

So, big "qualified" medical health professional, have you "dialled"
and made that "call to authorities" yet? I'm just sitting here waiting
for some other things to arrive. Good opportunity for those
"authorities" (under your mighty telephoned orders, of course) to
come and "have me committed!"

Indeed I did have some conversations with folks very close to you,
Lennie.

Tsk, Tsk, TSK! You've had NOTHING of the kind. You blatantly LIE.

Keep repeating that to yourself over and over and over and over
and.........

The only "conversations" you've had are with your alternate
personalities in your head...

Sorry, Your Putziness...a real, live, California Licensed Mental Health
Social Worker and a real, live, Registered Nurse Case Manager.

Interesting stuff, too. Brought me up-to-date on Chapter 5150, and
what
are recordable events, etc.

"Chapter?" What "chapter" and from what? A work of fiction? Nursie
seems to be confusing Lewis Carroll's "Through The Looking Glass"
with reality. Too many trips through that "glass" with the Mad Hatter...

Why don't you Google up "5150" and see what you get, Lennie.

A report by a duly-licensed healthcare worker is a recordable event.
It
may or maynot warrant an investigation, however files are started and any
similar report by another licensed person or law enforcement flags the
subject's name in future investigations.

Tsk. More implied threats, compounding the original lie. Nursie's
list of threats grows and grows like a magical beanstalk...but with
no giant at the top...

Not an implied threat, Lennie.

Fact of law in the State of California.

Want "investigations?" Investigate your own blathering outpourings
of implied threats in here. Plenty enough for some shrinks to make
a recycled paper of...

No "implied threats", Lennie.

You have demonstrated chronic obsessive-compulsive behaviour compounded by
repeated lying and willful deception.

Feel free to send a letter to Tom Ridge, if you want.

Why? Does he have licensure as an LMHSW in California?

Or the FBI. Or the CIA. Or the DIA. Or even the IBEW.

[try not to use crayon again...they didn't like that the last time...]

Now compounded by illusions and fantasy.

Your above statement suggests that a factual event occcured.

You are now obligated to prove that assertion of have yet ANOTHER
LennieLie piled on the stack that has gotten you flagged as a pathological
liar.

Tsk. Get some REAL medical help, nursie...your meds just
aren't working...too many side effects visible to all readers here.

What "side effects", Lennie?

What level of healthcare licensure do you hold that allows you to make
such diagnosis and suggestions?

Or would you like to cut to the chace and admit that you are, once again,
manifesting a lie in order to cover your own tracks?

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

October 17th 04, 12:14 AM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Doing Battle? Can't Resist Posting?
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 10/15/2004 4:02 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

1. Nursie is NOT a member of the IEEE, can't even qualify.

I could be a pathological liar without paying the dues, Lennie.

Len, that's a slam dunk. Steve's pathologies have nothing to do with the IEEE.

October 15th 04, 01:36 AM

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(William) writes:

There's somewhat the same keyboard lock-out at maximum rate
in the Model 28s and later that are 100 WPM maximums. Few
touch typists can go that fast except in bursts.

That's incorrect, Leonard. Anyone who has spent more than a year
steadily poking tape on a 28 can reasonably be expected to type at or
near the machine's maximum capability.

It's a fact, visible to anyone around a real communications center,
that p-tape is what is used for continuous throughput.

Yep, paper or mylar (for tapes used frequently). Trouble is, someone
has to input that information to the tape without errors. Someone has
to manually assign Message Reference Numbers and (for those who use
them) Message Continuity Numbers. Someone has to look up the routers
for stations infrequently addressed. There's a lot more to this
"continuous throughput" than you've indicated.

Morsemanship is always "discussed" by morsemen at the highest
possible rates, of course with zero errors at both ends of the
circuit. Non-morse communications are always done (according
to morsemen) at the slowest possible rates and with a maximum
of errors.

As with CW circuits, RTTY circuits are subject to receiving errors and
to transmitting errors. Multipath distortion or "echo" can leave an
RTTY circuit useless when the same distortion has little effect on a
morse circuit.

Jimmie dreams his dreams of being the Best, or at least among
the very best morsemen at a time when the rest of the world has
gotten on with change and long ago changed to newer, faster,
better techniques of communications by radio.

Uh...Len? You're not doing much communicating via amateur radio, are
you?
Does the fact that morse remains a popular mode, in wide use by radio
amateurs bother you?

Dave K8MN

October 15th 04, 02:14 AM

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(William) writes:

There's somewhat the same keyboard lock-out at maximum rate
in the Model 28s and later that are 100 WPM maximums. Few
touch typists can go that fast except in bursts.

That's incorrect, Leonard. Anyone who has spent more than a year
steadily poking tape on a 28 can reasonably be expected to type at or
near the machine's maximum capability.

It's a fact, visible to anyone around a real communications center,
that p-tape is what is used for continuous throughput.

Yep, paper or mylar (for tapes used frequently). Trouble is, someone
has to input that information to the tape without errors. Someone has
to manually assign Message Reference Numbers and (for those who use
them) Message Continuity Numbers. Someone has to look up the routers
for stations infrequently addressed. There's a lot more to this
"continuous throughput" than you've indicated.

Yes...the transmitting distributors do their thing all by themselves.
One racked-up tape will start pushing through as soon as the
other reader finishes...

Sunnuvagun! :-)

Tsk. All the morsemen "know" that they do near-perfect copy
every single time at high rates. :-)

All you mighty macho morsemen can do 100 WPM throughput
for hours and hours continuously... :-)

As with CW circuits, RTTY circuits are subject to receiving errors and
to transmitting errors. Multipath distortion or "echo" can leave an
RTTY circuit useless when the same distortion has little effect on a
morse circuit.

Wow, World's Greatest DXer spouting propagation effects!

Guess that's why all the other radio services abandoned RTTY
and took up morse on-off carrier keying, wasn't it? :-)

Oh, no, wait...it was the other way around!

Sunnuvagun!

Uh...Len? You're not doing much communicating via amateur radio, are
you?

Can't do that legally, World's Greatest DXer. Not on the ham bands.

I'm just as legal as anything on HF in other radio services. :-)

Does the fact that morse remains a popular mode, in wide use by radio
amateurs bother you?

No. Amateurs are the LAST vestige of morsemanship in radio.

If amateurs want to keep on recreating the past over and over again,
then I say "have fun, kiddies." Enjoy.

When you PCTA extra blowhards start spouting all the BS about
morsemanship is "necessary" to operate...other than the legal
requirement...on HF, then it's time to send a good old raspberry
to those stuffed-shirt, self-important, olde-tymers who don't have
much but morsemanship to be proud of...

All those amateur morseaholics aren't taking any test when they
are busy keying. What is at stake is whether or not a morse test
has any validity for any amateur radio license test. The FCC doesn't
think so, didn't think so several years ago.

But, big World's Greatest DXer, you aren't pleased with that answer,
are you? You will go right ahead with your "not licensed" schtick
and do personal attacks against any NCTA...because that is the
way you are...another representative of the PCTA olde-fahrts who
demand that all have to endure the test YOU had to do long ago.

Sunnuvagun!

October 15th 04, 03:49 AM

Subject: Doing Battle? Can't Resist Posting?
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 10/14/2004 8:14 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Sunnuvagun!

Sunnuvagun!

Sunnuvagun!

Plagarizing Putz!

Sunnuvagun!

Steve, K4YZ

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