bb wrote:
Randy Bradford wrote:
"K4YZ" wrote in message
oups.com...
K=D8HB wrote:
Lloyd wrote:

We are still waiting for you to post proof.
Well?

When it comes to proof, Steve is long on demanding, but short on
providing.

HANS!

I see it's thawed out enough up there for you to start oozing
back
out from under the septic tank lid!

I see your first "comments" on your return are not to get into
some meaningful conversations, but to sling a bit of mud yourself!

I don't know what EVER possessed me to think that you would
ever
actually live up to your own rhetoric about newsgroup conduct, "not
saying anything unless you ahve something constructive to say"...

But...there you are...Lennie Of The North. No More, No Less.

Steve, K4YZ

I welcome the return of Hans and his rather unique views on various
topics.
You might say Hans calls things like they are.
Welcome back Hans!

Randy Bradford
Dallas, TX

Lots of people have their differences on rrap, but Hans doesn't
resort
to dispicable veiled threats of bricks through windows, slashed
tires,
or terrorized wives.

I made a post over 2 years ago after Lennie made more of HIS
dispicable "Nazi" allegations and pointed out that it was conduct like
that that spawned the types of acts that Brain has taken out of context
and used to insinuate that I made "dispicable veiled threats".

What I did was to make refrence to stories that had appeared in
the press that told of stalkings, vandalism and acts of terrorism
against families after aggrievous online behaviour...Moments of terror
on innocents because of the callous and selfish behaviour of
others...Sometimes thier own loved ones.

These stories are not new. They've been around almost since the
Internet went public. There are stories almost every week of the very
same circumstances occurring coast to coast.

Brain has continued unabated, however, since HIS not-so-veiled
insinuations of "threats" usually get buried in other threads.

Not any longer.

Here's your chance, Brian...Put up or..well..prove me right once
again...Provide the specific posts where you claim I did those things
you cite above.

I say you've been lying. I say that becasue I know that no such
post exists.

Your turn! Try to snivvel out of this one, Brian!

Steve, K4YZ

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
Randy Bradford wrote:
"K4YZ" wrote in message
oups.com...
K=D8HB wrote:
Lloyd wrote:

We are still waiting for you to post proof.
Well?

When it comes to proof, Steve is long on demanding, but short
on
providing.

HANS!

I see it's thawed out enough up there for you to start
oozing
back
out from under the septic tank lid!

I see your first "comments" on your return are not to get
into
some meaningful conversations, but to sling a bit of mud
yourself!

I don't know what EVER possessed me to think that you
would
ever
actually live up to your own rhetoric about newsgroup conduct,
"not
saying anything unless you ahve something constructive to
say"...

But...there you are...Lennie Of The North. No More, No
Less.

Steve, K4YZ

I welcome the return of Hans and his rather unique views on
various
topics.
You might say Hans calls things like they are.
Welcome back Hans!

Randy Bradford
Dallas, TX

Lots of people have their differences on rrap, but Hans doesn't
resort
to dispicable veiled threats of bricks through windows, slashed
tires,
or terrorized wives.

Neither do I.

You do.

Quote, please?

Steve,K4YZ

You know what you said. I know what you said.

You're absolutely right this time, Brain. I know EXACTLY what I
said and YOU know EXACTLY what I said...also HOW I said it and in what
CONTEXT I said it.

THAT is EXACTLY why you made your "non-response" response in
another thread instead of this one where it's right out in the open for
all to see.

Thanks, once again, for helping me prove what a liar and COWARD
you are, Brian P Burke.

Steve, K4YZ

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

There I was...laying on the beach in Bora Bora with
Brittney
Spears
when BAM BAM BAM...This loud sounds wakes me from my male
chauvanist
near-wet dream...

And what do I find...?!?!

Another hostile action? Another disability pension?

Nope...Your bunkbuddy getting his words spoon-fed back to him.

Bunkbuddy? Are you back on the homosexual inuendo? What's next, the
pedophilia inuendo? Slashed tires?

You're dispicable.

You're the one with the "homosexual innuendo" problem, Brian...

"Being in bed" with somoene is a common phrase to mean they share
the same goals/intent/purpose. This has been discussed with you
before.

However if you're "feeling the heat" from the phrase, may I
suggest that perhaps you have some unaddressed repressive issues that a
professional may be able help you to overcome (or perhaps open that
closet door for you...?!?!)

Come on now, Brian...where's the "slashed tires" et al post you
keep insisting is out there...?!

Steve, K4YZ

PS:

As you no doubt notice, Brain, I am re-posting the replies to
comments in other threads here as well as in the thread in which they
originated.

The reason for that is so we can keep your misdirections and
non-compliance with requests for facts and quotes out in the open.

You keep lying and dodging, I'll keep them right under your (and
everyone else's, including your kinfolks) nose.

Steve, K4YZ

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

I take no warnings, instructions nor advice from you.

You'd best make an exception where my family is concerned.

Nope.

I've not threatened you or your family. You can snort and
stomp
in the dirt all you want to, Brain...Won't do you a bit of good.

I HAVE asked you what are you going to do when your son get's
inquisitive years from now and starts to research what kind of guy
"Dad" is....

You're leaving something out, Steve. You do that when you're trying
to
worm your way out of something.

You suggested that you should have "equal time" with my son. I
suggest
that you don't even try.

I've left nothing out, Brian.

Allow me to reiterate:

QUOTE:

"I've not threatened you or your family. You can snort and stomp
in the dirat all you want to, Brain...Won't do you a bit of good.

I HAVE asked you what you are going to do when your son get's
inquisitive years from now and starts to research what kind of guy
"Dad" is...

UNQUOTE

None of that has changed.

By making sure that I prominently address these threads and keep
YOUR lies and YOUR misdeeds up front, I can assure you that any claims
of "whacko" you may make to your son about me will be off-set when he
gets a chance to see what you were REALLY like.

You can keep making all the "whako", "crazy" and "nuts"
allegations about me you want to, Brain But the threads all eventually
funnel backwards to some beginning, and he WILL see just how assinine
you acted in public.

Sucks to be you.

Steve, K4YZ

bb wrote:
An Anonymous Remailer wrote:

K4YZ is quick to demand proof and slow to produce proof.

And he lies.

So far, other than refusing to tell you the nature of my military
duties, you have nothing to "back up" that assertion, Brain.

And the reason I don't discuss THOSE matters with you is that the
time I DID discuss with you (in private e-mail), YOU violated my trust
by bringing those private e-mails to the NG contrary to your agreement
to not do it.

Now...How's your kid gonna feel about Dad acting like that???

Steve, K4YZ

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

There I was...laying on the beach in Bora Bora with
Brittney
Spears
when BAM BAM BAM...This loud sounds wakes me from my male
chauvanist
near-wet dream...

And what do I find...?!?!

Another hostile action? Another disability pension?

Nope...Your bunkbuddy getting his words spoon-fed back to
him.

Bunkbuddy? Are you back on the homosexual inuendo? What's next,
the
pedophilia inuendo? Slashed tires?

You're dispicable.

You're the one with the "homosexual innuendo" problem,
Brian...

"Being in bed" with somoene is a common phrase to mean they
share
the same goals/intent/purpose. This has been discussed with you
before.

"Bunkbuddy" is a different phrase than "being in bed with."

And if you wished to say that Len and I have the same goals, intent,
and purpose, then you could have said that. Instead you give us
inuendo and obscure your actual goal, intent, and purpose. Or have
you? I think not.

However if you're "feeling the heat" from the phrase, may I
suggest that perhaps you have some unaddressed repressive issues
that
a
professional may be able help you to overcome (or perhaps open that
closet door for you...?!?!)

And you say you don't engage in homosexual inuendo?

That's not homosexual innuendo, Brian.

YOU are the one who is constantly bringing up homosexuality. You
then try to re-direct the conversation in such a way as to deflect the
comments away from you, but it only makes the act even more glaring.

You lie.

Nope. Keep trying, Brain...Posterity is watching.

Steve, K4YZ

B r i a n. . . . .! ! ! ! !

Hey Brain!~ What's up..?!?! I arrange this WIDE OPEN opportunity
for you to once-and-for-all prove your assertions of my alleged
"whacko-ness", my alleged "lies", my alleged "threats" and other
alleged misdeeds and ALL YOU DO IS SNIVVEL AWAY!

BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Not that I expected a single thing otherwise.

Steve, K4YZ

bb wrote:

K4YZ wrote:

It's all the straights that need to come out of the closet.
Pffft.

If you're not gay, it's not a problem, Brain...But YOU are the
one
always making the "homosexual innuendo" claims from posts that had
no
such intent.

You say I'm in bed with another guy. You say I need the closet door
opened.

Your intent is crystal clear, so quit lying about it.

There's nothing to lie about, Brain.

You ARE politically and philosophically "in bed" with Lennie.

That's not in dispute.

Have you had a change of heart in supporting Lennie's opinions and
behaviour?

YOU are the one who is constantly bringing up
homosexuality.

I point out your homosexual inuendos, which IS nearly
constant.

What "homosexual innuendo"...?!?! That you are politically and
philosophically "in bed" with Lennie?

You know what homosexual inuendo. The homosexual inuendo that you
engage in constantly. Maybe it just comes with being a nurse, but
I'm
not at all used to it.

Perhaps you're "not at all used to it" because there are some
unanswered question in your life taht you are unwilling to address
head-on? Perhaps because you've been the viction of a condition known
as ACRI? Acute Cranial Rectal Inversion?

Do you deny this? Are all your "Lennie is my mentor" claims
now
a
lie, or have you simply had a change of heart?

Your homosexual inuendo is a lie.

Your assertion does not answer my question...Are you or are you
not politically and philosophically "in bed" with Lennie?

Have you not very publically and unabashedly lent your support to
both his content and manner, Brian? Or are you now, as I suggested
above, withdrawing your support for both his opinions and techniques?

BTW, Brain...You and Lennie both make frequent references to
"PCTA Double Standard"...Welllllllp...Your buddy often makes his own
not-so-transpatent" "homosexual innuendo" (...'shaking your "we-we" in
public'), yet I never see YOU chastising HIM.

What's up with that...?!?!

It's OK to change your mind, you know...for example, I used to
think you were a pretty stand-up guy...but then there came the
lapses
in facts, false accusations, unsubstantiated assertions, etc etc
etc...

You are the one changing your mind. You are the one trying
desperately
to back away from the homosexual remarks. And you never thought I
was
a "pretty stand-up guy." Maybe you just thought I was pretty, but
there's no photo of me in a tight flight suit to judge by.

I am not backing away from anything, Brain.

I am clearly stating that if you perceive some "homosexual
innuendo", that it's due to some latent feelings or sympathies of your
own since you revisit the issue so often.

Furthermore, I have, on several occassions, expressed the opinon
that ourarguments in this forum notwithstanding, that you and I share
many of the same basic political and "social" opinions.

As a matter of fact, you and I shared several weeks of "agree to
disagree civil discourse" due to your cessation of assinine rantings
and obtuse accusations and behaviour.

YOU changed those "rules', Brain...Not me.

Besides...My aversion to homosexuality as a lifestyle not
withstanding, I know several persons who ARE "homosexual", and I'd not
dare bring them down to your level by making insinuation that you are
youerself homosexual.

Sure it has. With the exception of keeping my daughter alive,
getting a date with Brittney Spears and winning the Lottery, I'd
have
to say I'm in pretty good sorts.

Exactly. You're all messed up.

I am trying to figure out how you got "Exactly. You're all messed
up" from the statement I made. Life has it's disappointments, the
above three issues being among them. Unlike you, however, I can take
disappointment and make it work for me...ie: motivation to overcome
whatever life DOES throw me.

What about "(my) reality" did you think wasn't turning out?

Life in general. You seem very dissatisfied.

Then you have again expressed an opinion that is poorly organized.

That's YOUR reality.

Sucks to be you, Brain.

Steve, K4YZ

bb wrote:

K4YZ wrote:

It's all the straights that need to come out of the closet.
Pffft.

If you're not gay, it's not a problem, Brain...But YOU are the
one
always making the "homosexual innuendo" claims from posts that had
no
such intent.

You say I'm in bed with another guy. You say I need the closet door
opened.

Your intent is crystal clear, so quit lying about it.

There's nothing to lie about, Brain.

You ARE politically and philosophically "in bed" with Lennie.

That's not in dispute.

Have you had a change of heart in supporting Lennie's opinions and
behaviour?

YOU are the one who is constantly bringing up
homosexuality.

I point out your homosexual inuendos, which IS nearly
constant.

What "homosexual innuendo"...?!?! That you are politically and
philosophically "in bed" with Lennie?

You know what homosexual inuendo. The homosexual inuendo that you
engage in constantly. Maybe it just comes with being a nurse, but
I'm
not at all used to it.

Perhaps you're "not at all used to it" because there are some
unanswered question in your life taht you are unwilling to address
head-on? Perhaps because you've been the viction of a condition known
as ACRI? Acute Cranial Rectal Inversion?

Do you deny this? Are all your "Lennie is my mentor" claims
now
a
lie, or have you simply had a change of heart?

Your homosexual inuendo is a lie.

Your assertion does not answer my question...Are you or are you
not politically and philosophically "in bed" with Lennie?

Have you not very publically and unabashedly lent your support to
both his content and manner, Brian? Or are you now, as I suggested
above, withdrawing your support for both his opinions and techniques?

BTW, Brain...You and Lennie both make frequent references to
"PCTA Double Standard"...Welllllllp...Your buddy often makes his own
not-so-transpatent" "homosexual innuendo" (...'shaking your "we-we" in
public'), yet I never see YOU chastising HIM.

What's up with that...?!?!

It's OK to change your mind, you know...for example, I used to
think you were a pretty stand-up guy...but then there came the
lapses
in facts, false accusations, unsubstantiated assertions, etc etc
etc...

You are the one changing your mind. You are the one trying
desperately
to back away from the homosexual remarks. And you never thought I
was
a "pretty stand-up guy." Maybe you just thought I was pretty, but
there's no photo of me in a tight flight suit to judge by.

I am not backing away from anything, Brain.

I am clearly stating that if you perceive some "homosexual
innuendo", that it's due to some latent feelings or sympathies of your
own since you revisit the issue so often.

Furthermore, I have, on several occassions, expressed the opinon
that ourarguments in this forum notwithstanding, that you and I share
many of the same basic political and "social" opinions.

As a matter of fact, you and I shared several weeks of "agree to
disagree civil discourse" due to your cessation of assinine rantings
and obtuse accusations and behaviour.

YOU changed those "rules', Brain...Not me.

Besides...My aversion to homosexuality as a lifestyle not
withstanding, I know several persons who ARE "homosexual", and I'd not
dare bring them down to your level by making insinuation that you are
youerself homosexual.

Sure it has. With the exception of keeping my daughter alive,
getting a date with Brittney Spears and winning the Lottery, I'd
have
to say I'm in pretty good sorts.

Exactly. You're all messed up.

I am trying to figure out how you got "Exactly. You're all messed
up" from the statement I made. Life has it's disappointments, the
above three issues being among them. Unlike you, however, I can take
disappointment and make it work for me...ie: motivation to overcome
whatever life DOES throw me.

What about "(my) reality" did you think wasn't turning out?

Life in general. You seem very dissatisfied.

Then you have again expressed an opinion that is poorly organized.

That's YOUR reality.

Sucks to be you, Brain.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:

bb wrote:

K4YZ wrote:

From the ARRL webpage: (www.arrl.org)

Amateur Radio to Have Role in Largest-Ever Mass Casualty Exercise

NEWINGTON, CT, Mar 21, 2005--Amateur Radio Emergency Service
(ARES)
members in Connecticut, New Jersey and several other states in
the
Northeastern US are preparing to take part in what's being
characterized as the most comprehensive terrorism response
exercise
ever conducted in the US. Sponsored by the US Department of
Homeland
Security and intended as a realistic test of the nation's
homeland
security system, the exercise--TOPOFF 3--gets under way Monday,
April
4, and continues through the week.

SNIP

As usual...rants derailed by facts.

73

Steve, K4YZ

I don't see any mention of the FCC nor Len.

Who mentioned the FCC, Brain?

(1) Notice the title..."Guess The Government Isn't Paying
Attention to Lennie?"...?!?!

(2) "Sponsored by the US Department of Homeland Security and
intended as a realistic test of the nation's homeland security
system..."(SNIP)

See...?!?! You screwed up...AGAIN.

And you're absolutely right about Lennie...No meniton of him...

However HIS rants in this forum as to how unimportant Amateur
Radio is and how we "self-glorify" ourselves are numerous and well
known.

The news release was absolutely proof positive that Lennie's
assessments of Amateur Radio's disaster related services are
unfounded
and, to say teh least, inaccurate.

Just like I said.

As usual, rants derailed by facts.

You're absolutely right...And you did it to yourself...

"Hi!"

Steve, K4YZ