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"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message k.net... "Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message ... Dan/W4NTI wrote: wrote in message ups.com... KC8GXW wrote: But you still have to pay the VE fee, and have earned that Tech in the first place. Not a giveaway or a free upgrade. 73 de Jim, N2EY I was just being sarcastic because I have been told I have a give away tech license! :) Well, whoever told you that was full of beans and didn't know what s/he was talking about. Probably just sour grapes. 73 de Jim, N2EY I said that. And I mean it. The tests today are a joke. Why you ask? Because the questions and answers are right there in front of the person. Sure he has to study a lot of questions. But there they are on the test. A give away. And lets not even talk about the CW situation. It's NOT numbers we need, it people that respect the traditions of ham radio and want to continue them. Its people that love ham radio and don't want to use to to order a pizza. Call me old fashioned and out of touch. It won't be the first time. Dan/W4NTI Is there really any need for much technical knowledge to obtain a ham license anymore? Why a need for technical knowlege when setting up and operating a station today is simply plug-an-play? How many hams constuct any equipment they use on the air any more? The most tech knowledge that might be required is maybe how to build and put up and adjust an antenna. Perhaps the test should focus more on rules, regulations and proper operating procedures. The most technical that hams get today is knowing how many frequencies they can store in the radios memory. I am not all that concerned about the "technical knowledge" side of the test. I think basic technical knowledge is all that is really necessary. Like being able to cut a simple dipole, understand the terminology, have a working knowledge in block diagram format, for what is happening inside that radio. And I totally agree that the test should be heavy on rules, regs, and PROPER OPERATING PROCEDURES....like don't talk CB Crap on HF SSB. \ As you say Dan, with the joke they use for testing today, no technical knowledge is required anyway, just memorize the answers to the questions and off you go. So maybe if the tests were geared more to regs and operating procedures, then even with the memoriziation some of it might soak in and maybe there would less cb type operating on the ham bands. We agree it lots here, eh? It is pretty bad when as I heard not long ago on a 2 meter reperter, "I just got my license, can someone tell me what frequencies I can operate?" Cheeese. Or what I heard on the 75meter EKTRA band......I wanna cut a new dipole for 80m phone (First off what is 80 meter phone?)(I always thought it was 75meter phone). Out of the 5 people in the group, one had it right. Amazing. Even wogie wussman passed the test, that in itself speaks volumns about how easy the they are. He should have done real good the second time around...yuk yuk. Dan/W4NTI Hello, again, Dan Yep, 75 is phone, 80 is CW. At least that was the reference back in the days. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
Hello, Dan
How about 85 watts on 24 GHz? Naw, nothing technical going on in amateur radio. Just plug the mic thingy in here and stick the antenna thingy in there. :)) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message k.net... We have plenty of hi-tech stuff going on in Amateur Radio. Just not all that much at HF or on the two meter CB band of FM machines. Just off the top of my head.....ever hear of AMSAT? You know those satellite thingy's? Or how about digital voice on HF? Digital SlowScan? Or for that matter digital fast scan TV? Then of course the utter glut of new and experimental digital modes....too many to even talk about here. Then don't forget the EME (moonbounce) with WSJT program that allows you to do what it took a KW and 4 / 16 element phased yagis to do just a decade ago, with only 150 watts OR LESS? So lets not talk about hams not doing anything technical. Next BS line. Dan/W4NTI |
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Jim:
Sanity test? Be careful what you suggest. If they began checking for sanity the bands would be empty!!! Warmest regards, John "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message k.net... "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message hlink.net... "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... Oh, I almost forgot W2OY. He's been SK for many years now, but other lids have jumped right in to fill the gap. I remember his well. In fact I was insulted by him several times on 75 when he slapped me around for having a K8 call.....hi. Didn't a club pick up his call? Dan/W4NTI Hello, Dan Yes, it is a club call now. OY jumped on my frequency once on 75 when I was chatting with a station in Ohio. Guess what? The Ohio station was a good cw op and we changed to cw. At first, I tried signing 73 with him at about 20 words per minute. He came back stating cw was fine with him. Inside of 30 seconds we kept asking each other "qrq?" and rapidly cranked up to about 40 words per minute. With the q-multiplier cranked up, I couldn't even hear W2OY. I briefly turned it down to hear him moaning and groaning for us to "take those toys down into the cw band!". LOL. He didn't bither us a bot! 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA And this after the goof jumped on top of your qso, my oh my a two letter suffix LID... hi. Dan/W4NTI Hello, Dan Since you have been licensed since 1961, I shouldn't have to point out that there has never been a sanity test for an amateur radio license :)) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
From: "K4YZ" on Tues 7 Jun 2005 01:56
And once again you prove the REST of us right when we call you a self-serving blight on ALL Veterans. A liar for the ages. What you ARE, is a disgrace to the uniform you wore and a footprint on the graves of men who DID serve their country unselfishly. Scumbag. ...the sun sets on the Tomb of the Unknown Solder as a solitary figure in a patch-adorned flight suit slowly paces out his lonely path of anger, J-38 in one hand, bayonetted USMC soldering iron in the other. Pre-recorded marine marches softly fill the air, interspersed with dits and dahs of a few PCTA morsebirds not yet extinct. The Tomb of the Unknown Solder is a lonely place, deep in the valley of neuroses, anger, and frustration. The single sentinel counts cadennce to himself, muttering "flux you, flux you" between the slow steps. His fists are clenched, eager to do bottle but only sipping a cup of unkindness. It is sad but the sentinel at the Tomb of the Unknown Solder keeps going. He does not know why and that is the tragedy. The sun slowly sets on the Tomb of the Unknown Solder leaving only the red light of fire in the eyes of the muttering sentinel. Those glow in the dark like LED pilot lights. Hatred lives on in his twilight of despair. Temper fry. |
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... Jim: Sanity test? Be careful what you suggest. If they began checking for sanity the bands would be empty!!! Warmest regards, John Hello, John Heaven help us if they had a sanity test for this group! Talk about empty! :)) Best regards from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
"Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message k.net... "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message hlink.net... "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... Oh, I almost forgot W2OY. He's been SK for many years now, but other lids have jumped right in to fill the gap. I remember his well. In fact I was insulted by him several times on 75 when he slapped me around for having a K8 call.....hi. Didn't a club pick up his call? Dan/W4NTI Hello, Dan Yes, it is a club call now. OY jumped on my frequency once on 75 when I was chatting with a station in Ohio. Guess what? The Ohio station was a good cw op and we changed to cw. At first, I tried signing 73 with him at about 20 words per minute. He came back stating cw was fine with him. Inside of 30 seconds we kept asking each other "qrq?" and rapidly cranked up to about 40 words per minute. With the q-multiplier cranked up, I couldn't even hear W2OY. I briefly turned it down to hear him moaning and groaning for us to "take those toys down into the cw band!". LOL. He didn't bither us a bot! 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA And this after the goof jumped on top of your qso, my oh my a two letter suffix LID... hi. Dan/W4NTI Hello, Dan Since you have been licensed since 1961, I shouldn't have to point out that there has never been a sanity test for an amateur radio license :)) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA Ur right there Jim...hi....perhaps we need one? Nah.....no one would be allowed on then. Ya gotta be a lil bit crazy to like this radio stuff. Dan/W4NTI |
"Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message k.net... "Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message ... Dan/W4NTI wrote: wrote in message ups.com... KC8GXW wrote: But you still have to pay the VE fee, and have earned that Tech in the first place. Not a giveaway or a free upgrade. 73 de Jim, N2EY I was just being sarcastic because I have been told I have a give away tech license! :) Well, whoever told you that was full of beans and didn't know what s/he was talking about. Probably just sour grapes. 73 de Jim, N2EY I said that. And I mean it. The tests today are a joke. Why you ask? Because the questions and answers are right there in front of the person. Sure he has to study a lot of questions. But there they are on the test. A give away. And lets not even talk about the CW situation. It's NOT numbers we need, it people that respect the traditions of ham radio and want to continue them. Its people that love ham radio and don't want to use to to order a pizza. Call me old fashioned and out of touch. It won't be the first time. Dan/W4NTI Is there really any need for much technical knowledge to obtain a ham license anymore? Why a need for technical knowlege when setting up and operating a station today is simply plug-an-play? How many hams constuct any equipment they use on the air any more? The most tech knowledge that might be required is maybe how to build and put up and adjust an antenna. Perhaps the test should focus more on rules, regulations and proper operating procedures. The most technical that hams get today is knowing how many frequencies they can store in the radios memory. I am not all that concerned about the "technical knowledge" side of the test. I think basic technical knowledge is all that is really necessary. Like being able to cut a simple dipole, understand the terminology, have a working knowledge in block diagram format, for what is happening inside that radio. And I totally agree that the test should be heavy on rules, regs, and PROPER OPERATING PROCEDURES....like don't talk CB Crap on HF SSB. \ As you say Dan, with the joke they use for testing today, no technical knowledge is required anyway, just memorize the answers to the questions and off you go. So maybe if the tests were geared more to regs and operating procedures, then even with the memoriziation some of it might soak in and maybe there would less cb type operating on the ham bands. We agree it lots here, eh? It is pretty bad when as I heard not long ago on a 2 meter reperter, "I just got my license, can someone tell me what frequencies I can operate?" Cheeese. Or what I heard on the 75meter EKTRA band......I wanna cut a new dipole for 80m phone (First off what is 80 meter phone?)(I always thought it was 75meter phone). Out of the 5 people in the group, one had it right. Amazing. Even wogie wussman passed the test, that in itself speaks volumns about how easy the they are. He should have done real good the second time around...yuk yuk. Dan/W4NTI Hello, again, Dan Yep, 75 is phone, 80 is CW. At least that was the reference back in the days. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA And for all those that are "confused".....here it is; 300/Fmhz = length in meters. thus......300/4.0Mhz = 75meters. 300/3.75Mhz= 80meters. and........300/3.5Mhz = 85.7meters. see? Dan/W4NTI |
Dan/W4NTI wrote: And for all those that are "confused".....here it is; 300/Fmhz = length in meters. thus......300/4.0Mhz = 75meters. 300/3.75Mhz= 80meters. and........300/3.5Mhz = 85.7meters. see? Dan/W4NTI But you should know what the 300 stands for, not it just being a number! I'll bet I'm wrong, being a no code cb'er, but the 300 is the speed of light in meters! to be more percise 299792458 meters per second. |
KC8GXW wrote: Dan/W4NTI wrote: And for all those that are "confused".....here it is; 300/Fmhz = length in meters. thus......300/4.0Mhz = 75meters. 300/3.75Mhz= 80meters. and........300/3.5Mhz = 85.7meters. see? Dan/W4NTI But you should know what the 300 stands for, not it just being a number! I'll bet I'm wrong, being a no code cb'er, but the 300 is the speed of light in meters! to be more percise 299792458 meters per second. OOps see I told ya, the word is precise, now if only I could do 13 or more words a minute and go back in time and get a W or K 1x3 call, I wouldn't have made that mistake! :) |
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