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Cmd Buzz Corey June 8th 05 02:20 AM

Userbeam Remailer wrote:

"Wogie Wussman" "volumns" - Butt Cornholer makes good spells!


Get lost wogie, nobody is listening to you, two-test fatboy.

[email protected] June 8th 05 05:08 AM

From: "K4YZ" on Tues 7 Jun 2005 01:56


And once again you prove the REST of us right when we call you a
self-serving blight on ALL Veterans. A liar for the ages.

What you ARE, is a disgrace to the uniform you wore and a footprint
on the graves of men who DID serve their country unselfishly.

Scumbag.




...the sun sets on the Tomb of the Unknown Solder as a solitary
figure in a patch-adorned flight suit slowly paces out his lonely
path of anger, J-38 in one hand, bayonetted USMC soldering iron
in the other. Pre-recorded marine marches softly fill the air,
interspersed with dits and dahs of a few PCTA morsebirds not yet
extinct. The Tomb of the Unknown Solder is a lonely place, deep
in the valley of neuroses, anger, and frustration. The single
sentinel counts cadennce to himself, muttering "flux you, flux
you" between the slow steps. His fists are clenched, eager to do
bottle but only sipping a cup of unkindness. It is sad but the
sentinel at the Tomb of the Unknown Solder keeps going. He does
not know why and that is the tragedy. The sun slowly sets on the
Tomb of the Unknown Solder leaving only the red light of fire in
the eyes of the muttering sentinel. Those glow in the dark like
LED pilot lights. Hatred lives on in his twilight of despair.

Temper fry.


Cmd Buzz Corey June 8th 05 02:05 PM

John Smith wrote:
Quit corn-holing young boys, you are worse than a catholic priest with
his frock up, or a female school teacher at lunchtime in the back seat
of her car!!!


I will ask again, are you a ham?

John Smith June 8th 05 04:36 PM

Quit corn-holing young boys, you are worse than a catholic priest with
his frock up, or a female school teacher at lunchtime in the back seat
of her car!!!

John
"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
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Userbeam Remailer wrote:

"Wogie Wussman" "volumns" - Butt Cornholer makes good spells!


Get lost wogie, nobody is listening to you, two-test fatboy.



Jim Hampton June 8th 05 08:57 PM


"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
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"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
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"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
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"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
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KC8GXW wrote:

But you still have to pay the VE fee, and have earned that
Tech in the first place. Not a giveaway or a free upgrade.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I was just being sarcastic because I have been told I have a

give
away tech license! :)

Well, whoever told you that was full of beans and didn't know
what s/he was talking about. Probably just sour grapes.

73 de Jim, N2EY


I said that. And I mean it. The tests today are a joke. Why you

ask?
Because the questions and answers are right there in front of the

person.
Sure he has to study a lot of questions. But there they are on the

test.
A give away.

And lets not even talk about the CW situation.

It's NOT numbers we need, it people that respect the traditions of
ham
radio and want to continue them. Its people that love ham radio and
don't want to use to to order a pizza.

Call me old fashioned and out of touch. It won't be the first time.

Dan/W4NTI



Is there really any need for much technical knowledge to obtain a ham
license anymore? Why a need for technical knowlege when setting up

and
operating a station today is simply plug-an-play? How many hams
constuct
any equipment they use on the air any more? The most tech knowledge
that
might be required is maybe how to build and put up and adjust an

antenna.
Perhaps the test should focus more on rules, regulations and proper
operating procedures. The most technical that hams get today is

knowing
how many frequencies they can store in the radios memory.


I am not all that concerned about the "technical knowledge" side of the
test.
I think basic technical knowledge is all that is really necessary.

Like
being
able to cut a simple dipole, understand the terminology, have a working
knowledge in block diagram format, for what is happening inside that

radio.

And I totally agree that the test should be heavy on rules, regs, and

PROPER
OPERATING PROCEDURES....like don't talk CB Crap on HF SSB. \

As you say Dan, with the joke they use for testing today, no

technical
knowledge is required anyway, just memorize the answers to the
questions
and off you go. So maybe if the tests were geared more to regs and
operating procedures, then even with the memoriziation some of it

might
soak in and maybe there would less cb type operating on the ham

bands.

We agree it lots here, eh?

It is pretty bad when as I heard not long ago on a 2 meter reperter,

"I
just got my license, can someone tell me what frequencies I can

operate?"
Cheeese.


Or what I heard on the 75meter EKTRA band......I wanna cut a new dipole
for 80m phone (First off what is 80 meter phone?)(I always thought it

was
75meter phone). Out of the 5 people in the group, one had it right.
Amazing.

Even wogie wussman passed the test, that in itself speaks volumns

about
how easy the they are.

He should have done real good the second time around...yuk yuk.

Dan/W4NTI



Hello, again, Dan

Yep, 75 is phone, 80 is CW. At least that was the reference back in the
days.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA





And for all those that are "confused".....here it is;

300/Fmhz = length in meters.

thus......300/4.0Mhz = 75meters.

300/3.75Mhz= 80meters.

and........300/3.5Mhz = 85.7meters.

see?

Dan/W4NTI



Hello, Dan

The numbers are only approximate and some of the "bands" don't fall where
you'd expect them to ;)


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA





Dan/W4NTI June 9th 05 12:07 AM


"KC8GXW" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:


And for all those that are "confused".....here it is;

300/Fmhz = length in meters.

thus......300/4.0Mhz = 75meters.

300/3.75Mhz= 80meters.

and........300/3.5Mhz = 85.7meters.

see?

Dan/W4NTI


But you should know what the 300 stands for, not it just being a number!
I'll bet I'm wrong, being a no code cb'er, but the 300 is the speed of
light in meters! to be more percise 299792458 meters per second.


Golly, gee whiz, so you would be happier if it is written as:

299792458 / FMhz ?

Fine by me

Dan/W4NTI



Dan/W4NTI June 9th 05 12:10 AM


"KC8GXW" wrote in message
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KC8GXW wrote:



Dan/W4NTI wrote:


And for all those that are "confused".....here it is;

300/Fmhz = length in meters.

thus......300/4.0Mhz = 75meters.

300/3.75Mhz= 80meters.

and........300/3.5Mhz = 85.7meters.

see?

Dan/W4NTI


But you should know what the 300 stands for, not it just being a number!
I'll bet I'm wrong, being a no code cb'er, but the 300 is the speed of
light in meters! to be more percise 299792458 meters per second.


OOps see I told ya, the word is precise, now if only I could do 13 or more
words a minute and go back in time and get a W or K 1x3 call, I wouldn't
have made that mistake! :)

I try and stay on subject and not correct senders typos. That is a job for
professors like Churchill that thinks he is a Indian.

To comment however.....if you could do 13wpm and had a real W or K callsign
we wouldn't be having this discussion...because you would understand how it
is. However you don't. Your loss.

Dan/W4NTI



Dan/W4NTI June 9th 05 12:12 AM


"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
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Hello, Dan

The numbers are only approximate and some of the "bands" don't fall where
you'd expect them to ;)


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



So is any formula for antenna workings. You can't have a absolute formula
if the results are varied by external elements out of ones control. Such as
heigth above ground, nearby objects, length of grass. IQ of operator.
etc.

Dan/W4NTI



KC8GXW June 9th 05 01:37 PM



Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"KC8GXW" wrote in message
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KC8GXW wrote:



Dan/W4NTI wrote:


And for all those that are "confused".....here it is;

300/Fmhz = length in meters.

thus......300/4.0Mhz = 75meters.

300/3.75Mhz= 80meters.

and........300/3.5Mhz = 85.7meters.

see?

Dan/W4NTI



But you should know what the 300 stands for, not it just being a number!
I'll bet I'm wrong, being a no code cb'er, but the 300 is the speed of
light in meters! to be more percise 299792458 meters per second.


OOps see I told ya, the word is precise, now if only I could do 13 or more
words a minute and go back in time and get a W or K 1x3 call, I wouldn't
have made that mistake! :)


I try and stay on subject and not correct senders typos. That is a job for
professors like Churchill that thinks he is a Indian.

To comment however.....if you could do 13wpm and had a real W or K callsign
we wouldn't be having this discussion...because you would understand how it
is. However you don't. Your loss.

Dan/W4NTI


But I did understand how it works, I don't just know the numbers!


KC8GXW June 9th 05 01:39 PM



Dan/W4NTI wrote:

"KC8GXW" wrote in message
...


Dan/W4NTI wrote:


And for all those that are "confused".....here it is;

300/Fmhz = length in meters.

thus......300/4.0Mhz = 75meters.

300/3.75Mhz= 80meters.

and........300/3.5Mhz = 85.7meters.

see?

Dan/W4NTI



But you should know what the 300 stands for, not it just being a number!
I'll bet I'm wrong, being a no code cb'er, but the 300 is the speed of
light in meters! to be more percise 299792458 meters per second.



Golly, gee whiz, so you would be happier if it is written as:

299792458 / FMhz ?

Fine by me

Dan/W4NTI


I would use 300, I just put the correct number in so you'd have
something to complain about! :)



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