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Dan/W4NTI wrote: "KC8GXW" wrote in message ... Dan/W4NTI wrote: And for all those that are "confused".....here it is; 300/Fmhz = length in meters. thus......300/4.0Mhz = 75meters. 300/3.75Mhz= 80meters. and........300/3.5Mhz = 85.7meters. see? Dan/W4NTI But you should know what the 300 stands for, not it just being a number! I'll bet I'm wrong, being a no code cb'er, but the 300 is the speed of light in meters! to be more percise 299792458 meters per second. Golly, gee whiz, so you would be happier if it is written as: 299792458 / FMhz ? Fine by me Dan/W4NTI Maybe I don't understand. What is "299792458 / FMhz" ? |
Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:
In article Cmd Butt Cornholer wrote: Userbeam Remailer wrote: "Wogie Wussman" "volumns" - Butt Cornholer makes good spells! Get los(whines) Go **** yourself, you incontinent, senile imaginary "pilot's license" boy, nobody wants to see your frequent misspellings, you illiterate son of a bitch. Hi wogie, retaken any ham exams lately? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
A.Melon AKA the fatboy two-test wogie wrote:
Hi, baby raper Butt Cornholer, flew any model airplanes and thought you had a "pilot's license" as well as lying about having a commercial license lately, obsolete license boy? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA! Still got the pilot's certificate wogie boy. Still have the First Class Phone although it is now expired. So what happened to that Second Class ticket you claimed to have? Seems it morphed into a *Restricted* Radio Operator *Permit*, you know, the one that required no testing, just fill out an FCC form. Wahhhh whooooo, musta been real proud of all the work you put into it to get that one, huh wogie? Worked any DX with that *Permit* lately wogie? Caused any malicious interference lately wogie? Riley would probably like to correspond with you again, maybe ask you retake the ham exam again wogie, so you can be a shinning example of just how easy it is to get a ham license. If wogie can do it, then *anyone* can. You know what they say, 'third time's a charm'. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA! By the way, my Commercial Phone ticket was issued on July 13, 1960, Dallas, Texas...Date of Expiration July 13, 1965 at three o'clock A.M. Eastern Standard Time, signed by the following FCC officials...Marion E. Apple, Issuing Officer and Ben F. Waple (Acting) Secretary. Now how about some data on that Second Class you claim wogie? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA! |
Jim Hampton wrote:
"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message k.net... "Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message ... Dan/W4NTI wrote: wrote in message egroups.com... KC8GXW wrote: But you still have to pay the VE fee, and have earned that Tech in the first place. Not a giveaway or a free upgrade. 73 de Jim, N2EY I was just being sarcastic because I have been told I have a give away tech license! :) Well, whoever told you that was full of beans and didn't know what s/he was talking about. Probably just sour grapes. 73 de Jim, N2EY I said that. And I mean it. The tests today are a joke. Why you ask? Because the questions and answers are right there in front of the person. Sure he has to study a lot of questions. But there they are on the test. A give away. And lets not even talk about the CW situation. It's NOT numbers we need, it people that respect the traditions of ham radio and want to continue them. Its people that love ham radio and don't want to use to to order a pizza. Call me old fashioned and out of touch. It won't be the first time. Dan/W4NTI Is there really any need for much technical knowledge to obtain a ham license anymore? Why a need for technical knowlege when setting up and operating a station today is simply plug-an-play? How many hams constuct any equipment they use on the air any more? The most tech knowledge that might be required is maybe how to build and put up and adjust an antenna. Perhaps the test should focus more on rules, regulations and proper operating procedures. The most technical that hams get today is knowing how many frequencies they can store in the radios memory. I am not all that concerned about the "technical knowledge" side of the test. I think basic technical knowledge is all that is really necessary. Like being able to cut a simple dipole, understand the terminology, have a working knowledge in block diagram format, for what is happening inside that radio. And I totally agree that the test should be heavy on rules, regs, and PROPER OPERATING PROCEDURES....like don't talk CB Crap on HF SSB. \ As you say Dan, with the joke they use for testing today, no technical knowledge is required anyway, just memorize the answers to the questions and off you go. So maybe if the tests were geared more to regs and operating procedures, then even with the memoriziation some of it might soak in and maybe there would less cb type operating on the ham bands. We agree it lots here, eh? It is pretty bad when as I heard not long ago on a 2 meter reperter, "I just got my license, can someone tell me what frequencies I can operate?" Cheeese. Or what I heard on the 75meter EKTRA band......I wanna cut a new dipole for 80m phone (First off what is 80 meter phone?)(I always thought it was 75meter phone). Out of the 5 people in the group, one had it right. Amazing. Even wogie wussman passed the test, that in itself speaks volumns about how easy the they are. He should have done real good the second time around...yuk yuk. Dan/W4NTI Hello, again, Dan Yep, 75 is phone, 80 is CW. At least that was the reference back in the days. I've never been able to figure out why people get their chops busted for referring to "80 meter phone". Shall we set up a sked on 41 meters, 29 meters, 21 meters, 14 meters, 12 meters, (hey that one is right) or the 10.7 to 10.09 meter bands? My ARRL frequency chart doesn't show a 75 meter band either. - Mike KB3EIA - |
Mike Coslo wrote:
I've never been able to figure out why people get their chops busted for referring to "80 meter phone". Because 80 is CW/data and 75 is phone/image. Look at FCC rules 97.301. They actually list 80 and 75 as different bands, like 40 and 20. I'm not making this up. Shall we set up a sked on 41 meters, 29 meters, 21 meters, 14 meters, 12 meters, (hey that one is right) or the 10.7 to 10.09 meter bands? 41 meters is actually SWBC, even though it's the top of "our" 40 meter band ;-) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
"Mike Coslo" wrote I've never been able to figure out why people get their chops busted for referring to "80 meter phone". The wavelength of 80 meters translates to a frequency of 3.750 Mhz, which (for right now) just happens to be the precise dividing point between CW/Data and CW/Phone bands. If the phone band-edge drops down to say 3.700, then 80 meters will be a phone frequency. I wonder if WWV will mind if I stroke up my AL-1200 on 15 meters, 20 meters or 30 meters? dit dit de Hans, K0HB |
Bet the freebanders don't know that... else they sure are acting like
they don't... John wrote in message oups.com... Mike Coslo wrote: I've never been able to figure out why people get their chops busted for referring to "80 meter phone". Because 80 is CW/data and 75 is phone/image. Look at FCC rules 97.301. They actually list 80 and 75 as different bands, like 40 and 20. I'm not making this up. Shall we set up a sked on 41 meters, 29 meters, 21 meters, 14 meters, 12 meters, (hey that one is right) or the 10.7 to 10.09 meter bands? 41 meters is actually SWBC, even though it's the top of "our" 40 meter band ;-) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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Mike Coslo wrote:
wrote: Mike Coslo wrote: I've never been able to figure out why people get their chops busted for referring to "80 meter phone". Because 80 is CW/data and 75 is phone/image. Look at FCC rules 97.301. They actually list 80 and 75 as different bands, like 40 and 20. I'm not making this up. I don't doubt you. But it seems a little odd to decide that phone is 75 and CW and data is 80. Oddly enough, in the "old days" the frequencies were simply listed - no mention of wavelength at all. Using the old designators, 3500 to 4000 kc. was A1, 3500 to 3800 kc. was F1, 3800 to 4000 kc. was A3, etc. If you are at the bottom of the band you are at 85 meters. Same difference. (actually more, percentage-wise) So why would hams who insist on the precision of 75 phone and 80 CW not also insist on 85 meter CW? Precision has nothing to do with it. They're just simple shorthand names that go way back. Shall we set up a sked on 41 meters, 29 meters, 21 meters, 14 meters, 12 meters, (hey that one is right) or the 10.7 to 10.09 meter bands? 41 meters is actually SWBC, even though it's the top of "our" 40 meter band ;-) I get 42.8 meters at 7.0 MHz, and 41.067 meters at 7.3 MHz. Yeah, were in the mix there.... As the SWBC moves away, things get better on 40. --- OK, here's one to toss around: Right now we have 9 HF/MF bands, plus some spot frequencies in the "60 meter" region. Suppose that at some point we hams had the choice of either: 1) New, very narrow bands elsewhere in the HF/MF spectrum (say, 2.5 to 2.6 MHz, 6.0 to 6.1 MHz, etc.. or 2) Widening of existing bands and/or change to worldwide amateur. Such as 7.0-7.4 becomes worldwide exclusive amateur, 10.1 to 10.2 does the same, 14.0 to 14.4 (which the band used to be), etc. Which would be preferable, if we wound up with the same number of kHz overall? 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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