Dave:

Nothing wrong with moderate use of uuencoding in newsgroup, end of story!

Go control freak on 160-80-75-etc... your false information is NOT welcome
here... that is what ham radio has become, it has no place here on the
internet...

John

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
link.net...
John Smith wrote:

Excellent, in the future I shall post a uuencoded test pic, tell me what the
picture depicts and we will come up with some sort of fitting prize, perhaps
a free URL to a website on hawaii!


"John":

I'm amazed that you are seemingly unaware that almost every e-mail program on
the market decodes UUE automatically. The fact is, you shouldn't be doing so
in a text newsgroup.

Dave K8MN

"John Smith" wrote in message
...

snipped

... that is what ham radio has become, it has no place here on the
internet...

John

John,
Since you don't use a callsign, I believe you are not a licensed amateur
radio operator.
I wonder why so many unlicensed people (mostly CB'ers) post their opinions
in Amateur Radio groups?

I believe that most licensed amateur radio operators, don't care what the
opinions of unlicensed people are about amateur radio. I know I don't care.

And as for the trolls who say "I don't use my callsign on the internet
because of privacy concerns", that's just another way of saying that they
are unlicensed CB'ers without a callsign.

The internet is big enough for all people to post their opinions. I am sure
there are many news groups dedicated to CB'ers. They should use them instead
of Amateur Radio groups.
Ace - WH2T

Dr. Ace:

Why would you go though that whole spiel, then turn around and give me your
opinion. I question whether you even bother to pay attention to yourself. Or,
whether you have the mental horsepower to command attention at all?

Obviously you are correct and your opinion is worthless, and insane exuberance
and energy drove you to the effort of posting it--most likely, however, we are
in agreement.

Now, back to your tea leaves and psychic predictions...

John

"Dr.Ace - WH2T" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...

snipped

... that is what ham radio has become, it has no place here on the
internet...

John

John,
Since you don't use a callsign, I believe you are not a licensed amateur
radio operator.
I wonder why so many unlicensed people (mostly CB'ers) post their opinions in
Amateur Radio groups?

I believe that most licensed amateur radio operators, don't care what the
opinions of unlicensed people are about amateur radio. I know I don't care.

And as for the trolls who say "I don't use my callsign on the internet
because of privacy concerns", that's just another way of saying that they are
unlicensed CB'ers without a callsign.

The internet is big enough for all people to post their opinions. I am sure
there are many news groups dedicated to CB'ers. They should use them instead
of Amateur Radio groups.
Ace - WH2T

John,
I am not sure what you are trying to communicate in your last post.
I think I was rather clear in mine.
As you can see, I have a callsign.
Ace- WH2T


"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Dr. Ace:

Why would you go though that whole spiel, then turn around and give me
your opinion. I question whether you even bother to pay attention to
yourself. Or, whether you have the mental horsepower to command attention
at all?

Obviously you are correct and your opinion is worthless, and insane
exuberance and energy drove you to the effort of posting it--most likely,
however, we are in agreement.

Now, back to your tea leaves and psychic predictions...

John

"Dr.Ace - WH2T" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...

snipped

... that is what ham radio has become, it has no place here on the
internet...

John

John,
Since you don't use a callsign, I believe you are not a licensed amateur
radio operator.
I wonder why so many unlicensed people (mostly CB'ers) post their
opinions in Amateur Radio groups?

I believe that most licensed amateur radio operators, don't care what the
opinions of unlicensed people are about amateur radio. I know I don't
care.

And as for the trolls who say "I don't use my callsign on the internet
because of privacy concerns", that's just another way of saying that they
are unlicensed CB'ers without a callsign.

The internet is big enough for all people to post their opinions. I am
sure there are many news groups dedicated to CB'ers. They should use them
instead of Amateur Radio groups.
Ace - WH2T

Dr. Pepper:

Well, yes, you have a call sign in there, again, we are in agreement...

I am sure the others got the meaning of my post, makes me doubt you deserve the
"Dr." in front of you name...

John

"Dr.Ace - WH2T" wrote in message
...
John,
I am not sure what you are trying to communicate in your last post.
I think I was rather clear in mine.
As you can see, I have a callsign.
Ace- WH2T


"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Dr. Ace:

Why would you go though that whole spiel, then turn around and give me your
opinion. I question whether you even bother to pay attention to yourself.
Or, whether you have the mental horsepower to command attention at all?

Obviously you are correct and your opinion is worthless, and insane
exuberance and energy drove you to the effort of posting it--most likely,
however, we are in agreement.

Now, back to your tea leaves and psychic predictions...

John

"Dr.Ace - WH2T" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...

snipped

... that is what ham radio has become, it has no place here on the
internet...

John

John,
Since you don't use a callsign, I believe you are not a licensed amateur
radio operator.
I wonder why so many unlicensed people (mostly CB'ers) post their opinions
in Amateur Radio groups?

I believe that most licensed amateur radio operators, don't care what the
opinions of unlicensed people are about amateur radio. I know I don't care.

And as for the trolls who say "I don't use my callsign on the internet
because of privacy concerns", that's just another way of saying that they
are unlicensed CB'ers without a callsign.

The internet is big enough for all people to post their opinions. I am sure
there are many news groups dedicated to CB'ers. They should use them
instead of Amateur Radio groups.
Ace - WH2T

John Wadd,
OK , here we go with the name calling.
I stated my opinion because I am a licensed amateur radio operator.
It looks like that makes one of us.
Since this is an amateur radio group and you are not a licensed amateur
radio operator, you are hereby kill filed on my computer.
Blow Away Johnny Wadd.

Ace - WH2T

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Dr. Pepper:

Well, yes, you have a call sign in there, again, we are in agreement...

I am sure the others got the meaning of my post, makes me doubt you
deserve the "Dr." in front of you name...

John

"Dr.Ace - WH2T" wrote in message
...
John,
I am not sure what you are trying to communicate in your last post.
I think I was rather clear in mine.
As you can see, I have a callsign.
Ace- WH2T


"John Smith" wrote in message
...
SNIPPED

John

"Dr.Ace - WH2T" wrote in message
...
John,
Since you don't use a callsign, I believe you are not a licensed
amateur radio operator.
I wonder why so many unlicensed people (mostly CB'ers) post their
opinions in Amateur Radio groups?

I believe that most licensed amateur radio operators, don't care what
the opinions of unlicensed people are about amateur radio. I know I
don't care.

And as for the trolls who say "I don't use my callsign on the internet
because of privacy concerns", that's just another way of saying that
they are unlicensed CB'ers without a callsign.

The internet is big enough for all people to post their opinions. I am
sure there are many news groups dedicated to CB'ers. They should use
them instead of Amateur Radio groups.
Ace - WH2T

Dr. Pepper:

Ham license? Well, that makes one a glorified CB'er now doesn't it?

I realize you think a ham ticket is some great accomplishment, something with
signifies that individual has some mental acuity or powers above mere mortals.

All that is, is a damn hobby license, get a clue.

If you expect a ham license to demand some type of respect for its'
possessor--you are sorely mistaken. Some complete ignorant jerks possess these
things. Get a MS or doctorate in a science of math field, that is what you
really need...

That is all I was pointing out, and the fact you don't seem to have a clue to
those facts...

John

"Dr.Ace - WH2T" wrote in message
...
John Wadd,
OK , here we go with the name calling.
I stated my opinion because I am a licensed amateur radio operator.
It looks like that makes one of us.
Since this is an amateur radio group and you are not a licensed amateur radio
operator, you are hereby kill filed on my computer.
Blow Away Johnny Wadd.

Ace - WH2T

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Dr. Pepper:

Well, yes, you have a call sign in there, again, we are in agreement...

I am sure the others got the meaning of my post, makes me doubt you deserve
the "Dr." in front of you name...

John

"Dr.Ace - WH2T" wrote in message
...
John,
I am not sure what you are trying to communicate in your last post.
I think I was rather clear in mine.
As you can see, I have a callsign.
Ace- WH2T


"John Smith" wrote in message
...
SNIPPED

John

"Dr.Ace - WH2T" wrote in message
...
John,
Since you don't use a callsign, I believe you are not a licensed amateur
radio operator.
I wonder why so many unlicensed people (mostly CB'ers) post their
opinions in Amateur Radio groups?

I believe that most licensed amateur radio operators, don't care what the
opinions of unlicensed people are about amateur radio. I know I don't
care.

And as for the trolls who say "I don't use my callsign on the internet
because of privacy concerns", that's just another way of saying that they
are unlicensed CB'ers without a callsign.

The internet is big enough for all people to post their opinions. I am
sure there are many news groups dedicated to CB'ers. They should use them
instead of Amateur Radio groups.
Ace - WH2T

John Smith wrote:
Dave:

Nothing wrong with moderate use of uuencoding in newsgroup, end of story!

That isn't true, "John". It isn't the end of the story. You really
need to check out the facts before you make such statements.

Go control freak on 160-80-75-etc... your false information is NOT welcome
here...

"Here" meaning where your computer happens to sit? It seems odd that
you view someone who attempts to enlighten you as a "control freak" I'm
not required to go anywhere, especially when the order is issued by some
anonymous fellow who may or may not even be a radio amateur.

that is what ham radio has become, it has no place here on the
internet...

Amateur radio is about control freaking on 160-80-75-etc ? I don't
believe you.

John

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
link.net...

John Smith wrote:


Excellent, in the future I shall post a uuencoded test pic, tell me what the
picture depicts and we will come up with some sort of fitting prize, perhaps
a free URL to a website on hawaii!


"John":

I'm amazed that you are seemingly unaware that almost every e-mail program on
the market decodes UUE automatically. The fact is, you shouldn't be doing so
in a text newsgroup.

Dave K8MN

Dave:

With enlightenment comes freedom...

Freedom to exchange data without restriction is a tool all educated peoples
would seek.

How some can argue that placing limits and short comings on the internet is
some kind of "enlightenment" is beyond logic, the two conflicting concepts are
ironic to attempt to even fit together...

"A picture is worth 10,000 words" has always been accurate--it still stands
today." Individuals who would argue to "blind" us to that wisdom and call it
"enlightenment" are either sorely mistaken and confused, or do so for other
purposes not well understood by those questing true knowledge and
enlightenment.

Newsgroups are just a 7 bit data forum, methods exist to fit 8 bit data in such
a forum...

Don't open posts with encoded binary if it is some kind of threat to you. That
is your option...

John

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
nk.net...
John Smith wrote:
Dave:

Nothing wrong with moderate use of uuencoding in newsgroup, end of story!

That isn't true, "John". It isn't the end of the story. You really need to
check out the facts before you make such statements.

Go control freak on 160-80-75-etc... your false information is NOT welcome
here...

"Here" meaning where your computer happens to sit? It seems odd that you
view someone who attempts to enlighten you as a "control freak" I'm not
required to go anywhere, especially when the order is issued by some
anonymous fellow who may or may not even be a radio amateur.

that is what ham radio has become, it has no place here on the
internet...

Amateur radio is about control freaking on 160-80-75-etc ? I don't believe
you.

John

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
link.net...

John Smith wrote:


Excellent, in the future I shall post a uuencoded test pic, tell me what
the picture depicts and we will come up with some sort of fitting prize,
perhaps a free URL to a website on hawaii!


"John":

I'm amazed that you are seemingly unaware that almost every e-mail program
on the market decodes UUE automatically. The fact is, you shouldn't be
doing so in a text newsgroup.

Dave K8MN

On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 08:46:28 -0700, John Smith wrote:
Dave:

With enlightenment comes freedom...

Indeed.

Freedom to exchange data without restriction is a tool all educated peoples
would seek.

But we use shared resources provided by others. Restrictions are
essential if the resources are to be successfully shared

How some can argue that placing limits and short comings on the internet is
some kind of "enlightenment" is beyond logic, the two conflicting concepts are
ironic to attempt to even fit together...

Ah, but there is no such thing as an Internet without limits. You are
living in a make-believe world if you think so.

Newsgroups are just a 7 bit data forum, methods exist to fit 8 bit data in such
a forum...


Clue: Usenet is *not* the Internet. Repeat that to yourself 100 times.

Don't open posts with encoded binary if it is some kind of threat to you. That
is your option...

The people who make their servers available to carry Usenet are the
ones who are making the rules. If their rules are violated, they
either block the originating site from their collective servers
(Usenet death penalty), or they retroactively cancel the posts of an
offending individual (spam canceling, based on the BI of a post, for
example). Others, such as groups.google.com, simply don't allow
binary posts on their servers in the first place.

So, John, it is the option of the people who own the servers to cancel
or block your posts, and there's nothing you or Dave can do to change
that. If you want to know what the server owners are thinking, go to
the newsgroup 'news.answers' - a group that a newbie like yourself
should read before continuing to make a fool of yourself on Usenet.
In news.answers you will find one or more FAQs which outline the
reasons that binaries in non-binary news groups are not allowed.

Again: Usenet is not the Internet. And Usenet is not a democracy.