b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Like I said...too bad there's not a penalty for perjury in those
comments...Page 1 would have got him in HAC right off the bat.

Now Steve libels Len... Who's next???

Where's the libel, Brain?

I said Lennie couldn't get past the first page without mentioning
ADA and lying.

He did both on the very first page of his comments to the FCC.

It's not libel if it's true.

Steve, K4YZ

b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote:

I figured that I would reserve my comments for a place that had a
better chance of having an effect on the decision. That would be in
rrap! ;^)

I gave up on RRAP being any usable place for ANY kind of debate

No kidding? You're the #1 problem.

Actually, I'd put myself around 5th or 6th. You, Lennie, Markie
and Toad get the first four, hands down, but not necessarily in that
order. I'm vacillitating between WA8ULX and the "anonnies" as a group
being fifth.

I'll leave it to you guys to argue about who get's to be first.

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, K4YZ

an old friend wrote:
John Smith wrote:
Dave:

Yeah, I am always so hung up on spelling and grammer I can't focus unless
it is perfect... there are both meds and psyche help for it, I hope those
who can't cope with this severe disability on their own avail themselves
of what is available...

what is realy amazing that if I typed in Morse I am sure theyd mange to
get all of it no problem

I have absolutely no doubt, whatsoever, that it is absolutely
impossible for you to do that.

First of all, you don't know Morse Code...You'd have to have a
"cheat sheet" and do each letter one-at-a-time. You're too impatient
to spam us with your ill-conceived dreck as it is, and even then all
you have to do is push ONE button to make a letter apperear..I can
imagine you trying to take the time just to spell "an_old_friend" in
Code!

Then you can't spell correctly in the second place. So there we'd
have your incomprehensible typed code trying to encode even more
incomprehensible "words"...

We'd have better luck reading the United States Tax Code after
feeding it to a shredder than reading your "Morse Code", typed, sent,
telepathied, or otherwise.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
Where is everyone from BOTH sides of the aisle?

Egbert C. Craig, Jr., WA2SI

August 4, 2005

Re. NPRM WT 05-235

To Whom It May Concern:

Undoubtedly, there will be many comments filed re. This NPRM.
Therefore, I will be brief and to the point. Although I am not new to
radio and earned my GROL long before my amateur radio license, I am a
relative newcomer to the Amateur Radio Service. As such, I feel that I
can offer an alternative view to many of the "old timers."

I believe that there is still a very important place for minimal Morse
code proficiency testing in U.S. amateur radio licensing. I've been
told that "proficiency" is the technically correct term, however, I
do not feel 5-wpm represents Morse code proficiency. I feel that the
current 5-wpm Element 1 test is sufficient to require an individual to
learn the Morse characters so that s/he may then make an educated
decision as to whether or not s/he wishes to pursue CW further.

I would also like to dispel two myths that I have repeatedly heard/read
in the argument for dropping Element 1.

=B7 The current Element 1 test acts as a filter to keep out CBers and
other "insufficiently-dedicated" individuals.
=B7 The current Element 1 test acts as a deterrent to newcomers to the
hobby/service.

Along with being an amateur radio "newcomer," I am also a CBer and
Element 1 did not deter me in any way, shape, or form from upgrading my
license class and earning HF privileges. If during the course of
reviewing the comments filed re. NPRM WT 05-235, this demographic is
referred to while supporting the removal of Element 1, please do not
include me. This "newcomer" wholeheartedly supports the retention
of Element 1 testing for the General and Extra class licenses.

In closing, I would also like to remind those who believe that Morse
code testing serves no "regulatory purpose" in amateur radio that
there is an intrinsic quality at stake here too. It is part of our
culture and tradition and therefore should not be removed entirely from
the curriculum.

Thank you for your time and attention.

Sincerely,

Egbert C. Craig, Jr., WA2SI

wrote:

Remember what Stebie Rosebud said out loud in here..."it's
all about the LICENSE." That's all it is to him, apparently.

Whellllp....You'll lie on documents that you send to the federal
government. I guess it's just as easy for you to lie here.

Steve Robeson did NOT say "...it's all about the license..."

Steve Robeson DID say that Amateur Radio is about OPERATING the
radio...Something that Lennie Anderson cannot do without the license.
His frequently mentioned GROL is useless for Part 97 operations.

Leonard Anderson lied on federally submitted documents. Right
there on page one.

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

Remember what Stebie Rosebud said out loud in here..."it's
all about the LICENSE." That's all it is to him, apparently.

Whellllp....You'll lie on documents that you send to the federal
government. I guess it's just as easy for you to lie here.

more libel

Steve Robeson did NOT say "...it's all about the license..."

you have said words to that effect, a valid response even under oath

Steve Robeson DID say that Amateur Radio is about OPERATING the
radio...Something that Lennie Anderson cannot do without the license.
His frequently mentioned GROL is useless for Part 97 operations.

another Stevie lie

Len or anyone else without a license can indeed operate on ARS
frequecies

the means are well know the Stevie or should be

in addition of course one can simply operate (ilegal but possible)

Leonard Anderson lied on federally submitted documents. Right
there on page one.

anything Stevie doesn't like is a lie


Putz.

more obsession with genitals

Steve, K4YZ

From: "an old friend" on Thurs 4 Aug 2005 09:24


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

Remember what Stebie Rosebud said out loud in here..."it's
all about the LICENSE." That's all it is to him, apparently.

Whellllp....You'll lie on documents that you send to the federal
government. I guess it's just as easy for you to lie here.

more libel

Not really. He's just nutso, Mark. He's frustrated and Angry
As Hell And Can't Take It Anymore! as of several years ago.

Steve Robeson did NOT say "...it's all about the license..."

you have said words to that effect, a valid response even under oath

I can pull out a recent archive quote from Google to prove
what Stebie said...but Stebie would DENY it (under oath or
mumbling several oaths), try to rationalize it, all to avoid
EVER saying any of us are correct. In his disordered mind,
all negative sayings against Stebie are LIES!!! :-)

Steve Robeson DID say that Amateur Radio is about OPERATING the
radio...Something that Lennie Anderson cannot do without the license.
His frequently mentioned GROL is useless for Part 97 operations.

another Stevie lie

Len or anyone else without a license can indeed operate on ARS
frequecies

In a REAL emergency...FCC regulations say so. :-)

However, I can and have operated MANY RADIOS quite well and
all legally...just not IN the amateur frequency allocations
legally. OPERATION no problem.


Leonard Anderson lied on federally submitted documents. Right
there on page one.

anything Stevie doesn't like is a lie

The current President of the United States LIED when he said,
before the nation, that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction
in Iraq, thus justifying invasion and the killing of thousands
of Iraqis and 1800 U.S. military personnel. So far, shrub
hasn't been recalled and still occupies the White House. :-)

Tsk. Stebie EXAGGERATES something fierce! :-)

"LIED ON FEDERALLY SUBMITTED DOCUMENTS!!!!"

Sound the Hue and Cry!!! Form the posse! Hang 'em high!

Stebie needs to wash his KKK "white dress uniform," especially
around the mouth. It's gone on seven years now and hasn't been
cleaned...must be itching something fierce after seven years.

No problem. We'll see Stebie IN COURT. Oyez, oyez! :-)

Putz.

more obsession with genitals

Maybe Stebie isn't "getting any?" He wants to Convert?

Oy gevalt!

sha lom

wrote:
From: "an old friend" on Thurs 4 Aug 2005 09:24


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

Remember what Stebie Rosebud said out loud in here..."it's
all about the LICENSE." That's all it is to him, apparently.

Whellllp....You'll lie on documents that you send to the federal
government. I guess it's just as easy for you to lie here.

more libel

Not really. He's just nutso, Mark. He's frustrated and Angry
As Hell And Can't Take It Anymore! as of several years ago.

I supose his being insane might be a defense


Steve Robeson did NOT say "...it's all about the license..."

you have said words to that effect, a valid response even under oath

I can pull out a recent archive quote from Google to prove
what Stebie said...but Stebie would DENY it (under oath or
mumbling several oaths), try to rationalize it, all to avoid
EVER saying any of us are correct. In his disordered mind,
all negative sayings against Stebie are LIES!!! :-)

indeed anything said by someone he doesn't like

He can't even admit teh Borthers grim did more than write down fairy
tales


Steve Robeson DID say that Amateur Radio is about OPERATING the
radio...Something that Lennie Anderson cannot do without the license.
His frequently mentioned GROL is useless for Part 97 operations.

another Stevie lie

Len or anyone else without a license can indeed operate on ARS
frequecies

In a REAL emergency...FCC regulations say so. :-)

or if there is a Licensed op around

However, I can and have operated MANY RADIOS quite well and
all legally...just not IN the amateur frequency allocations
legally. OPERATION no problem.


Leonard Anderson lied on federally submitted documents. Right
there on page one.

anything Stevie doesn't like is a lie

The current President of the United States LIED when he said,
before the nation, that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction
in Iraq, thus justifying invasion and the killing of thousands
of Iraqis and 1800 U.S. military personnel. So far, shrub
hasn't been recalled and still occupies the White House. :-)

Tsk. Stebie EXAGGERATES something fierce! :-)

"LIED ON FEDERALLY SUBMITTED DOCUMENTS!!!!"

Sound the Hue and Cry!!! Form the posse! Hang 'em high!

Stebie needs to wash his KKK "white dress uniform," especially
around the mouth. It's gone on seven years now and hasn't been
cleaned...must be itching something fierce after seven years.

No problem. We'll see Stebie IN COURT. Oyez, oyez! :-)

Putz.

more obsession with genitals

Maybe Stebie isn't "getting any?" He wants to Convert?

I don't he wants to convert just has and can't admit it to himself let
alone anyone esle


Oy gevalt!

sha lom

wrote:
From: "an old friend" on Thurs 4 Aug 2005 09:24


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

Remember what Stebie Rosebud said out loud in here..."it's
all about the LICENSE." That's all it is to him, apparently.

Whellllp....You'll lie on documents that you send to the federal
government. I guess it's just as easy for you to lie here.

more libel

Not really. He's just nutso, Mark. He's frustrated and Angry
As Hell And Can't Take It Anymore! as of several years ago.

I supose his being insane might be a defense


Steve Robeson did NOT say "...it's all about the license..."

you have said words to that effect, a valid response even under oath

I can pull out a recent archive quote from Google to prove
what Stebie said...but Stebie would DENY it (under oath or
mumbling several oaths), try to rationalize it, all to avoid
EVER saying any of us are correct. In his disordered mind,
all negative sayings against Stebie are LIES!!! :-)

indeed anything said by someone he doesn't like

He can't even admit teh Borthers grim did more than write down fairy
tales


Steve Robeson DID say that Amateur Radio is about OPERATING the
radio...Something that Lennie Anderson cannot do without the license.
His frequently mentioned GROL is useless for Part 97 operations.

another Stevie lie

Len or anyone else without a license can indeed operate on ARS
frequecies

In a REAL emergency...FCC regulations say so. :-)

or if there is a Licensed op around

However, I can and have operated MANY RADIOS quite well and
all legally...just not IN the amateur frequency allocations
legally. OPERATION no problem.


Leonard Anderson lied on federally submitted documents. Right
there on page one.

anything Stevie doesn't like is a lie

The current President of the United States LIED when he said,
before the nation, that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction
in Iraq, thus justifying invasion and the killing of thousands
of Iraqis and 1800 U.S. military personnel. So far, shrub
hasn't been recalled and still occupies the White House. :-)

Tsk. Stebie EXAGGERATES something fierce! :-)

"LIED ON FEDERALLY SUBMITTED DOCUMENTS!!!!"

Sound the Hue and Cry!!! Form the posse! Hang 'em high!

Stebie needs to wash his KKK "white dress uniform," especially
around the mouth. It's gone on seven years now and hasn't been
cleaned...must be itching something fierce after seven years.

No problem. We'll see Stebie IN COURT. Oyez, oyez! :-)

nope stevie lack the guts and likely the funds to take us there, and
seem to lack the funds to worth us taking him there

id rather see him up before a comitement broad but likely he is not
screwed up enough to commit given the way they let folks out now


Putz.

more obsession with genitals

Maybe Stebie isn't "getting any?" He wants to Convert?

I don't he wants to convert just has and can't admit it to himself let
alone anyone esle


Oy gevalt!

sha lom

Perhaps someone can clear up one issue for me.....why do we take a
morse code test to gain access to phone portions of the bands? It has
never made sense to me that you had to pass a code test to operate HF
phone.....

John T.
W5KXO
San Antonio, Texas