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Old August 19th 05, 06:09 PM
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Just why would there need to be a test in order to use this specturm
set aside

One can either USE Morse Code or not

But still the plea that Morse Code needs welfare in order to endure

David Stinson wrote:
Comments submitted to the FCC,
advocating ARRL administration of
Morse license endorsment:
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18 Aug. 2005
WT Docket 05-235,
Amateur Radio Morse Code Testing Requirement.


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Old August 19th 05, 06:13 PM
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an_old_friend wrote:

Just why would there need to be a test in order to use this specturm
set aside

One can either USE Morse Code or not

But still the plea that Morse Code needs welfare in order to endure


Yes, just as the U.S.S. Constitution needs "welfare," and
the U.S.S. Arizona memorial, and the local steam train
preservation societies, and WWII Warbird museums,
and The Grand Canyon National Park, etc.
All important historical things need some assets to
preserve them. It's too bad that some people let
their personal bigotries and unwillingness to
work for a goal get in the way of good sense...
D.S.
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Old August 19th 05, 06:29 PM
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David Stinson wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:

Just why would there need to be a test in order to use this specturm
set aside

One can either USE Morse Code or not

But still the plea that Morse Code needs welfare in order to endure


Yes, just as the U.S.S. Constitution needs "welfare," and
the U.S.S. Arizona memorial, and the local steam train
preservation societies, and WWII Warbird museums,
and The Grand Canyon National Park, etc.
All important historical things need some assets to
preserve them. It's too bad that some people let
their personal bigotries and unwillingness to
work for a goal get in the way of good sense...
D.S.


Well if you think Morse Code needs this aid to suvive then it isn't the
usefull mode that you describe

Morse Code either needs aid to survive or not If it needs such help to
survive it isn't the usefull mode you describe

Your comments are better than most, but they still have this slipshod
logic

Of course you come back with those that oppose you are lazy and
unpatriotic

It is amazing that the blindness that results from not examing your
beliefs

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Old August 19th 05, 06:40 PM
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Band allocation should be allocated on long term statistics generated in
regards to the modes used... (past year or two)

As CW continues its' drop, it needs less and less allocations... as
no-coders now enter CW will have to shrink to accommodate the new users
and their modes...

John

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:09:49 -0700, an_old_friend wrote:

Just why would there need to be a test in order to use this specturm
set aside

One can either USE Morse Code or not

But still the plea that Morse Code needs welfare in order to endure

David Stinson wrote:
Comments submitted to the FCC,
advocating ARRL administration of
Morse license endorsment:
-------------------

18 Aug. 2005
WT Docket 05-235,
Amateur Radio Morse Code Testing Requirement.


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Old August 19th 05, 06:48 PM
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John Smith wrote:
Band allocation should be allocated on long term statistics generated in
regards to the modes used... (past year or two)

As CW continues its' drop, it needs less and less allocations... as
no-coders now enter CW will have to shrink to accommodate the new users
and their modes...

John


And yet His comments are some of the best I have seen in defense of
Code testing

He addreses the reasoning to the Public Good tries to relive the FCC of
the Burdens involved

all in all a decent defense of the indefensable

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:09:49 -0700, an_old_friend wrote:

Just why would there need to be a test in order to use this specturm
set aside

One can either USE Morse Code or not

But still the plea that Morse Code needs welfare in order to endure

David Stinson wrote:
Comments submitted to the FCC,
advocating ARRL administration of
Morse license endorsment:
-------------------

18 Aug. 2005
WT Docket 05-235,
Amateur Radio Morse Code Testing Requirement.


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Old August 19th 05, 07:14 PM
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AOF:

One thing for sure, this group sure has a lot which do not value
having anyone respecting their credibility... after a sufficient length
of time it becomes obvious, the vast amount dis-information which flows
off their keyboards... I think it is deeper than just them stating
falsehoods they know to be untrue, it really is a depiction of their
ignorance...

John

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:48:11 -0700, an_old_friend wrote:


John Smith wrote:
Band allocation should be allocated on long term statistics generated in
regards to the modes used... (past year or two)

As CW continues its' drop, it needs less and less allocations... as
no-coders now enter CW will have to shrink to accommodate the new users
and their modes...

John


And yet His comments are some of the best I have seen in defense of
Code testing

He addreses the reasoning to the Public Good tries to relive the FCC of
the Burdens involved

all in all a decent defense of the indefensable

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:09:49 -0700, an_old_friend wrote:

Just why would there need to be a test in order to use this specturm
set aside

One can either USE Morse Code or not

But still the plea that Morse Code needs welfare in order to endure

David Stinson wrote:
Comments submitted to the FCC,
advocating ARRL administration of
Morse license endorsment:
-------------------

18 Aug. 2005
WT Docket 05-235,
Amateur Radio Morse Code Testing Requirement.

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Old August 19th 05, 11:26 PM
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an_old_friend wrote:
John Smith wrote:
Band allocation should be allocated on long term statistics generated in
regards to the modes used... (past year or two)

As CW continues its' drop, it needs less and less allocations... as
no-coders now enter CW will have to shrink to accommodate the new users
and their modes...

John


And yet His comments are some of the best I have seen in defense of
Code testing


Gee whillikers, Mr Wizard...Some of those very same sentiments
were uttered by other posters in this forum and you didn't hold the
same opinion for them...

He addreses the reasoning to the Public Good tries to relive the FCC of
the Burdens involved


"addresses" "relieve"

all in all a decent defense of the indefensable


"Lying" is indefensable. "Deceit" is indefensable. "Child
Pornography" and "Spousal Abuse" are "indefensable.

Seems to me he made some on-the-head comments.

Steve, K4YZ

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Old August 19th 05, 11:29 PM
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KY4Z wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
John Smith wrote:
Band allocation should be allocated on long term statistics generated in
regards to the modes used... (past year or two)

As CW continues its' drop, it needs less and less allocations... as
no-coders now enter CW will have to shrink to accommodate the new users
and their modes...

John


And yet His comments are some of the best I have seen in defense of
Code testing


Gee whillikers, Mr Wizard...Some of those very same sentiments
were uttered by other posters in this forum and you didn't hold the
same opinion for them...


Such as whom?


He addreses the reasoning to the Public Good tries to relive the FCC of
the Burdens involved


"addresses" "relieve"

all in all a decent defense of the indefensable


"Lying" is indefensable. "Deceit" is indefensable. "Child
Pornography" and "Spousal Abuse" are "indefensable.


Your placement of lying, Kiddy porn, and Spousal abuse on the same
level shows just how sick you truly are


Seems to me he made some on-the-head comments.


it would to you

but then you omitted the bonehead idea that It realy reuires some kind
of manual code tst in order to USE Morse Code


Steve, KY4Z


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Old August 20th 05, 12:44 PM
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an_old_friend wrote:
KY4Z wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
John Smith wrote:
Band allocation should be allocated on long term statistics generated in
regards to the modes used... (past year or two)

As CW continues its' drop, it needs less and less allocations... as
no-coders now enter CW will have to shrink to accommodate the new users
and their modes...

John

And yet His comments are some of the best I have seen in defense of
Code testing


Gee whillikers, Mr Wizard...Some of those very same sentiments
were uttered by other posters in this forum and you didn't hold the
same opinion for them...


Such as whom?


Such as me.

He addreses the reasoning to the Public Good tries to relive the FCC of
the Burdens involved


"addresses" "relieve"

all in all a decent defense of the indefensable


"Lying" is indefensable. "Deceit" is indefensable. "Child
Pornography" and "Spousal Abuse" are "indefensable.


Your placement of lying, Kiddy porn, and Spousal abuse on the same
level shows just how sick you truly are


Why?

I consider all of them equally offensive.

Each of them harm society in thier own right.

For example, look where lying has got you!

Seems to me he made some on-the-head comments.


it would to you


Becasue it did. Why do you think not?

but then you omitted the bonehead idea that It realy reuires some kind
of manual code tst in order to USE Morse Code


"really" "requires" "test"

It's not boneheaded. It's real.

Steve, K4YZ

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Old August 20th 05, 12:02 AM
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I think it is an excellent solution (except for the 10KHZ only part) to the
situation.

Knowing the FCC, if it takes it off their hands they will jump on it. If
they have time to write up the NPRM that is.

Dan/W4NTI

"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

John Smith wrote:
Band allocation should be allocated on long term statistics generated in
regards to the modes used... (past year or two)

As CW continues its' drop, it needs less and less allocations... as
no-coders now enter CW will have to shrink to accommodate the new users
and their modes...

John


And yet His comments are some of the best I have seen in defense of
Code testing

He addreses the reasoning to the Public Good tries to relive the FCC of
the Burdens involved

all in all a decent defense of the indefensable

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:09:49 -0700, an_old_friend wrote:

Just why would there need to be a test in order to use this specturm
set aside

One can either USE Morse Code or not

But still the plea that Morse Code needs welfare in order to endure

David Stinson wrote:
Comments submitted to the FCC,
advocating ARRL administration of
Morse license endorsment:
-------------------

18 Aug. 2005
WT Docket 05-235,
Amateur Radio Morse Code Testing Requirement.

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