Yeah it sucks....but you know something? We still manage to be able to
communicate.

Dan/W4NTI

"RJ" wrote in message
...
Isn't it ironic citizens despise amateur radio and they will go to court
to insure amateur antennas are never installed in their neighborhood. But
when commercial radio and cell phone fail, they expect we can provide
communication without antennas. Think about it.

AA8X




"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
ink.net...
I hope you folks can give a listen to HF during this disaster. It is
amazing how Ham Radio has stepped up to the plate and is providing
Communications where the Commercial infrastructure is destroyed.

7290, 7285, 14.265, 3935, 3873, 3965 and many others I am sure.

I'm listening to a young lady right now with the Baptist feeding unit in
Biloxi Mississippi on the Alabama net frequency of 3965 passing messages
to family and friends outside of the disaster area.

Such as "Daddy were alright" Don't worry have not been able to call
before.

And this is for you Len Anderson......take your anti-ham crap and shove
it.

Back to work, thanks to you all for the help you are providing.

Dan/W4NTI

Shut up you silly *******.

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
ink.net...
I hope you folks can give a listen to HF during this disaster. It is
amazing how Ham Radio has stepped up to the plate and is providing
Communications where the Commercial infrastructure is destroyed.

7290, 7285, 14.265, 3935, 3873, 3965 and many others I am sure.

I'm listening to a young lady right now with the Baptist feeding unit in
Biloxi Mississippi on the Alabama net frequency of 3965 passing messages
to family and friends outside of the disaster area.

Such as "Daddy were alright" Don't worry have not been able to call
before.

And this is for you Len Anderson......take your anti-ham crap and shove
it.

Back to work, thanks to you all for the help you are providing.

Dan/W4NTI

I often wonder why people of N7TX attitude bother to get a ham license.

Dan/W4NTI

"N7TX" wrote in message
news:1125759540.de4a521babaa020dfecc504628076cb8@t eranews...
Shut up you silly *******.

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
ink.net...
I hope you folks can give a listen to HF during this disaster. It is
amazing how Ham Radio has stepped up to the plate and is providing
Communications where the Commercial infrastructure is destroyed.

7290, 7285, 14.265, 3935, 3873, 3965 and many others I am sure.

I'm listening to a young lady right now with the Baptist feeding unit in
Biloxi Mississippi on the Alabama net frequency of 3965 passing messages
to family and friends outside of the disaster area.

Such as "Daddy were alright" Don't worry have not been able to call
before.

And this is for you Len Anderson......take your anti-ham crap and shove
it.

Back to work, thanks to you all for the help you are providing.

Dan/W4NTI

Braging see the following
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
I hope you folks can give a listen to HF during this disaster. It is
amazing how Ham Radio has stepped up to the plate and is providing
Communications where the Commercial infrastructure is destroyed.

7290, 7285, 14.265, 3935, 3873, 3965 and many others I am sure.

I'm listening to a young lady right now with the Baptist feeding unit in
Biloxi Mississippi on the Alabama net frequency of 3965 passing messages to
family and friends outside of the disaster area.

Such as "Daddy were alright" Don't worry have not been able to call
before.

And this is for you Len Anderson......take your anti-ham crap and shove it.

taking this disaster and using it as club to beat up someone you don't
like

such Nobility ham radio can do without

Back to work, thanks to you all for the help you are providing.

Dan/W4NTI

As Telecom Reels From Storm Damage, Ham Radios Hum

By CHRISTOPHER RHOADS
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
September 6, 2005; Page A19

MONROE, La. -- In a shelter here, 300 miles north of New Orleans, Theo
McDaniel took his plight to a young man fiddling with a clunky, outdated-looking
radio.

Mr. McDaniel, a 25-year-old barber, had evacuated New Orleans with his wife
and two small children more than a week ago and since then had had no contact
with his brother or his aunt. The last he heard, his 42-year-old aunt was
clinging to her roof.

"We've got to get a message down there to help them," he said. The man at the
radio sent the information to the emergency-operations center across town,
which relayed it to rescue units in New Orleans. Later in the weekend, Mr.
McDaniel learned that food and water were on the way to his trapped brother and
his
brother's young family. He had heard nothing about his aunt.

With Hurricane Katrina having knocked out nearly all the high-end emergency
communications gear, 911 centers, cellphone towers and normal fixed phone lines
in its path, ham-radio operators have begun to fill the information vacuum.
"Right now, 99.9% of normal communications in the affected region is
nonexistent," says David Gore, the man operating the ham radio in the Monroe
shelter.
"That's where we come in."

In an age of high-tech, real-time gadgetry, it's the decidedly unsexy ham
radio -- whose technology has changed little since World War II -- that is in
high demand in ravaged New Orleans and environs. The Red Cross issued a request
for about 500 amateur radio operators -- known as "hams" -- for the 260
shelters it is erecting in the area. The American Radio Relay League, a national
association of ham-radio operators, has been deluged with requests to find
people
in the region. The U.S. Coast Guard is looking for hams to help with its
relief efforts.

Ham radios, battery operated, work well when others don't in part because
they are simple. Each operator acts as his own base station, requiring only his
radio and about 50 feet of fence wire to transmit messages thousands of miles.
Ham radios can send messages on multiple channels and in myriad ways,
including Morse code, microwave frequencies and even email.

Then there are the ham-radio operators themselves, a band of radio
enthusiasts who spend hours jabbering with each other even during normal times.
They are
often the first to get messages in and out of disaster areas, in part because
they are everywhere. (The ARRL estimates there are 250,000 active licensed hams
in
the U.S.) Sometimes they are the only source of information in the first hours
following a disaster. "No matter how good the homeland-security system is, it
will be overwhelmed," says Thomas Leggett, a retired mill worker manning a ham
radio in the operations center here. "You don't hear about us, but we are
there."

Slidell, a town 30 miles northeast of New Orleans, was directly hit by the
hurricane and remains virtually cut off from the outside world. One of the few,
if not the only, communications links is Michael King, a retired Navy captain,
operating a ham radio out of a Slidell hospital.

"How are you holding up, Mike?" asked Sharon Riviere into a ham-radio
microphone at Monroe's operations center. She and her husband, Ron, who is the
president of the Slidell ham-radio club, had evacuated before the storm to the
home
of some fellow ham-radio enthusiasts in Monroe. She said Mr. King had been
working 20-hour days since the storm hit.

Crackling static and odd, garbled sounds followed her question to Mr. King.
Then he replied: "It's total devastation here. I've got 18 feet of water at my
house. Johnny's Caf? down there has water up to its roof."

Ms. Riviere asked about her own home, which is not far from Mr. King's. "It's
full of mud," Mr. King replied. "Looks like someone's been slugging it out in
there."

Ham radios are often most effective as one link in a chain of communication
devices. Early last week, someone trapped with 15 people on a roof of a New
Orleans home tried unsuccessfully to get through to a 911 center on his
cellphone. He was able to call a relative in Baton Rouge, who in turn called
another
relative, Sybil Hayes, in Broken Arrow, Okla. Ms. Hayes, whose 81-year-old aunt
was among those stranded on the New Orleans roof, then called the Red Cross in
Broken Arrow, which handed the message to its affiliated ham-radio operator,
Ben Joplin.

Via stations in Oregon, Idaho and Louisiana, Mr. Joplin got the message to
rescue workers who were able to save the 15 people on the roof, according to the
ARRL, based in Newington, Conn. "We are like the Pony Express," says the
26-year-old Mr. Gore, wearing black cowboy boots. "One way or the other, even by
hand, we will get you the message."

Mr. Gore, who is in charge of the northeastern district of Louisiana for the
Amateur Radio Emergency Service, has spent a lot of time the past week at the
Monroe shelter, helping evacuees try to track missing friends and relatives.

Last Monday, Danita Alexander of Violet, La., came to a ham operator in the
Monroe shelter asking about her 96-year-old grandfather, Willie Bright, who had
been in a nursing home in New Orleans. The next day, she got word back from a
ham operator that he had been safely transferred to a shelter near New
Orleans. "We can't do enough of these," says Mark Ketchell, who runs the ARES
branch
in Monroe.

Nevertheless, the ham-radio community feels under threat. Telecom companies
want to deliver broadband Internet connections over power lines, which
ham-radio operators say distorts communications in the surrounding area. Since
hams
are "amateurs," there is little lobbying money to fight such changes, they add.

The hams also get little respect from telecommunications-equipment companies,
such as Motorola Inc. "Something is better than nothing, that's right," says
Jim Screeden, who runs all of Motorola's repair teams in the field for its
emergency-response business. "But ham radios are pretty close to nothing." Mr.
Screeden says ham radios can take a long time to relay messages and work
essentially as "party lines," with multiple parties talking at once. Says Mr.
Leggett
at the Monroe operations center: "We are the unwanted stepchild. But when the
s--- hits the fan, who are you going to call?"

a much better peice Hans than Dans show us properly warts and merits
both

an_old_friend wrote:
a much better peice Hans than Dans show us properly warts and merits
both


Whatever the hell that sentence is supposed to mean.

KØHB wrote:


In an age of high-tech, real-time gadgetry, it's the decidedly unsexy ham
radio -- whose technology has changed little since World War II -- that is in
high demand in ravaged New Orleans and environs. The Red Cross issued a request
for about 500 amateur radio operators -- known as "hams" -- for the 260
shelters it is erecting in the area.

Wonder why they didn't just issue a request for frankieboy and all his
cb "good buddies" to show up? Do you think it could have anything to do
with the fact that they would only add to the confusion of the disaster?

The U.S. Coast Guard is looking for hams to help with its
relief efforts.

Not looking for the "ten fer thar" cb boys to help? For shame.


With Hurricane Katrina having knocked out nearly all the high-end emergency
communications gear, 911 centers, cellphone towers and normal fixed phone lines
in its path, ham-radio operators have begun to fill the information vacuum.
"Right now, 99.9% of normal communications in the affected region is
nonexistent," says David Gore, the man operating the ham radio in the Monroe
shelter.
"That's where we come in."

More bad news for lennieboy, frankieboy the cb king, and an_old_halfwit.


Ham radios, battery operated, work well when others don't in part because
they are simple. Each operator acts as his own base station, requiring only his
radio and about 50 feet of fence wire to transmit messages thousands of miles.
Ham radios can send messages on multiple channels and in myriad ways,
including Morse code, microwave frequencies and even email.

Heavens!! Hams using an outdated mode such as Morse code, what is the
world of ham radio coming to?

Then there are the ham-radio operators themselves, a band of radio
enthusiasts who spend hours jabbering with each other even during normal times.
They are
often the first to get messages in and out of disaster areas, in part because
they are everywhere. (The ARRL estimates there are 250,000 active licensed hams
in
the U.S.) Sometimes they are the only source of information in the first hours
following a disaster. "No matter how good the homeland-security system is, it
will be overwhelmed," says Thomas Leggett, a retired mill worker manning a ham
radio in the operations center here. "You don't hear about us, but we are
there."

Gee, wonder where all that cell phone cabability went to that some claim
make ham radio obselete in times of disaster?


Ham radios are often most effective as one link in a chain of communication
devices. Early last week, someone trapped with 15 people on a roof of a New
Orleans home tried unsuccessfully to get through to a 911 center on his
cellphone.

Oh no, you mean the very system that would make ham radio obselete in
times of a disaster wouldn't work?


The hams also get little respect from telecommunications-equipment companies,
such as Motorola Inc. "Something is better than nothing, that's right," says
Jim Screeden, who runs all of Motorola's repair teams in the field for its
emergency-response business. "But ham radios are pretty close to nothing." Mr.
Screeden says ham radios can take a long time to relay messages and work
essentially as "party lines," with multiple parties talking at once.

And a Motorola system that isn't working, such as the ones in NO, can't
deleiver a message at all.

Fritz Wuehler

wrote:
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Dave Heil wrote:

Perhaps he could kiss my ass on the fifty-yard line at a WVU home
football game if he falls short.

More perversion from Dave Vile. You fatasize about that happening, don't
you?

IWhat's wrong with that?
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Lardass Lloyd Davies, N0VFP wrote:
Fritz Wuehler

wrote:
In article . net
Dave Heil wrote:

Perhaps he could kiss my ass on the fifty-yard line at a WVU home
football game if he falls short.

More perversion from Dave Vile. You fatasize about that happening, don't
you?

IWhat's wrong with that?

"IWhat's"..... Lloydie, you make good spell!

But the only reason you are still a VIRGIN is because you are a queer,
Davies.

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My, what were you whining about hiding behind remailers before, Davies?
PKB, Fatass!