Dan/W4NTI wrote:


A threat to my ego? All I am doing is TRYING to explain to that hole
between your ears that Ham Radio is doing something good here. But you
simply refuse to believe it because you are in a RF hole in Upper Michigan.
Get you attitude adjusted.

He needs an "opti-rectomy" to sever that nerve that runs from his ahole
to his eyes that gives him that crappy outlook on life.

an_old_friend wrote:



ah Buzz your normal jerk hood but at least you cut enough from Dan crap
to maybe respond to. perhaps he will even read it before turning the
flame thrower back on


jerk hood? Well, whatever floats your boat.

an_old_friend wrote:
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:



No He is argueing with someone that Says the ARS is playing an
important role, but not an vital one, as are oyu

Ham radio is in some cases playing an important role, and in some cases
a very vital role. So what's your problem?


Dab is the one with the problem and perhaps yourself It seem it is not
allowed to dissgree about HOW important a role


You can disagree all you want, no one is saying you can't, you're just
wrong as usual, because ham radio *is* playing a vital role in this
emergency and there are a lot of emergency officials and agencies that
agree.

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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:

Just what do you consider "VITAL COMMS" ???

as i have said Vital ops are those that can't be handled by other
means, the failure of which to get through will cause substancail harm
to many people or additonal damage to infrastructure


So....none of the examples given by me or others in here is considered
vital
comms to you. , and Well I am sure those that needed the messages send
those that got them considered them vital.

If you are going to critizse my use of languae you should try to do
better yourself

But guessing at the details "Well I am sure those that needed the
messages send those that got them considered them vital."

No I don't I see them as important, valueble, not vital, wether the
persons involved thought so matters little as they are not in a
position to be objective

I will give you one more example of how ham radio got the job done, when
NOTHING ELSE WORKED.

My city, Anniston Alabama wanted to donate several Police Vehicles to
the
city of Waveland MS. The city manager made several attempts to contact
the
city in MS. NO WAY COULD HE GET THROUGH.

The city manager here knew a city employee was a Ham operator. He asked
him
if he could help. He picked up the message and gave it to me, since
he
was working at the time.

I passed that message within an hour. A day went by, no return call.
That
evening on the regular Alabama Traffic Net I asked our member KB7BSA who
was
in Biloxi if she could get someone into Waveland and see if they need the
Police cars.

She not only did just that, but did it herself by traveling to the town,
found the Chief of Police. He is sending people to pick them up today.

Do you think the people of Waveland are going to be happy that they now
have
Police patrolling their town once again? Is that vital? Or could a CB
done it? Or GMRS ? Or carrier Pidgeon????

not vital, and by the desciption I suspect that a carrier pigeon might
have done better, said pigeon would flown to waveland and not required
a repeat, as would have simply driving one of the police cars that
Anniston was prepared to send


Since the post the post you are quoting I have heard of some
lifesavinng messgae but would stand behind the revised assertion that
most of the ARS traffic is H&W with some life saving traffic in the mix


OK, I get it now. Next Communication Emergency we will have you set up
the
allowed traffic list.

never said or suggested that the traffic sent was improper, just I see
the traffic passed as less important than you, which is not to say
unimportant.



But what I am seeing described is retail aid, in a disater of
wholescale proprotions

important but not vital

Retail aid? What the heck is that?

a metaphor which obviously you are not bright enough to follow

What traffic is being passed by the ARS that would affect the headlines
in this disaster, the only headlines that would be affected are the one
mentioning us by name


Who gives a damn about headlines.
Those that respond in this situation are looking to get the job done.
Not
your approval.

Never said it required it

Indeed like Dave and Stevie you insist on adding your own meaning to
what I say, to point you fabricate statements

Vital comms

I have been informed that the ARS can normaly allow to be complied list
of people in the shelters of the affected areas, I hear from SecHS
mouth that no such list yet exists after how many days


cut

you want to try responding to what I am saying instead of making
fabrication let me know


I am unable to respond to you in the manner that you seem to expect.
Apparently we are 180 degrees out of phase and will never find a point that
agrees.

So how's this....when you know something about Amateur Radio Emergency
Communications, ARES, RACES,National Traffic System, Propagation,
CW....etc. we will have something to discuss. In the mean time I see no
reason to continue this waste of bandwidth on you.

Dan/W4NTI

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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I am unable to respond to you in the manner that you seem to expect.
Apparently we are 180 degrees out of phase and will never find a point that
agrees.

Indeed I agree you are unable to step outside your point of view to
even consider any other point of view

So how's this....when you know something about Amateur Radio Emergency
Communications, ARES, RACES,National Traffic System, Propagation,
CW....etc. we will have something to discuss. In the mean time I see no
reason to continue this waste of bandwidth on you.

Gee I particpate in ARES/RACES, I know about proagation and CW, I just
disagree with you on the exact level of import of the traffic in
question

When you learn to look with some degree of objectivity at the world do
lets us Know

You refuse to reconize that anyone may disagree with you

SoP for you and many other in here

Dan/W4NTI

"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
See what I mean? Even when you are shown what the Hams are doing, you
doubt it. YOU ARE ONE PARANOID SCREWBALL.

Dan/W4NTI





You're aurging with an imbecile who along with some others just can't face
the fact that ham radio is playing a very important role in emergency
comms in this disaster and they don't have the ability, skills, knowledge,
or sense to be a part of it.

The local media here has done several spots about local hams being
involved, and yesterday a group were getting ready to deploy to the
affected area to set up more equipment.

AW, they're just sore because their chicken band sets aren't being used to
pass that 'ere "eeee-mer-gen-ceee' traffic thar. "Shore thang thar, mercy
sakes, gre't day thar, guaran-tole ye, Ah know whutcha mean thar, shore do
thar, but I just cain't understand why ah ain't hearin' no reddio traffic
thar on this hyar CB thar fer Noo Orleens thar". (guffaw!!)

J

"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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I am unable to respond to you in the manner that you seem to expect.
Apparently we are 180 degrees out of phase and will never find a point
that
agrees.

Indeed I agree you are unable to step outside your point of view to
even consider any other point of view

So how's this....when you know something about Amateur Radio Emergency
Communications, ARES, RACES,National Traffic System, Propagation,
CW....etc. we will have something to discuss. In the mean time I see no
reason to continue this waste of bandwidth on you.

Gee I particpate in ARES/RACES, I know about proagation and CW, I just
disagree with you on the exact level of import of the traffic in
question

When you learn to look with some degree of objectivity at the world do
lets us Know

You refuse to reconize that anyone may disagree with you

SoP for you and many other in here

Dan/W4NTI


Be sure and let me know when you learn how to spell, ok?

Be sure and let me know how you can participate in ECOM when you say the
Upper Peninsula is a RF Hole.

Be sure and let me know how you know so much about propagation since you
claim you can't hear anything going on.

Be sure and le me know how you know so much about CW when you claim to hate
it.

Etc. Etc. Etc. Credibility ZERO.

Dan/W4NTI

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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Gee I particpate in ARES/RACES, I know about proagation and CW, I just
disagree with you on the exact level of import of the traffic in
question

When you learn to look with some degree of objectivity at the world do
lets us Know

You refuse to reconize that anyone may disagree with you

SoP for you and many other in here

Dan/W4NTI


when you can stop turn off the flamethrower and start speacking the
turth let me know

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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Gee I particpate in ARES/RACES, I know about proagation and CW, I just
disagree with you on the exact level of import of the traffic in
question

When you learn to look with some degree of objectivity at the world do
lets us Know

You refuse to reconize that anyone may disagree with you

SoP for you and many other in here

Dan/W4NTI


when you can stop turn off the flamethrower and start speacking the
turth let me know

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
link.net...

"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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cut

I am unable to respond to you in the manner that you seem to expect.
Apparently we are 180 degrees out of phase and will never find a point
that
agrees.

Indeed I agree you are unable to step outside your point of view to
even consider any other point of view

So how's this....when you know something about Amateur Radio Emergency
Communications, ARES, RACES,National Traffic System, Propagation,
CW....etc. we will have something to discuss. In the mean time I see
no
reason to continue this waste of bandwidth on you.

Gee I particpate in ARES/RACES, I know about proagation and CW, I just
disagree with you on the exact level of import of the traffic in
question

When you learn to look with some degree of objectivity at the world do
lets us Know

You refuse to reconize that anyone may disagree with you

SoP for you and many other in here

Dan/W4NTI


Be sure and let me know when you learn how to spell, ok?

Be sure and let me know how you can participate in ECOM when you say the
Upper Peninsula is a RF Hole.

Be sure and let me know how you know so much about propagation since you
claim you can't hear anything going on.

Be sure and le me know how you know so much about CW when you claim to
hate it.

Etc. Etc. Etc. Credibility ZERO.

Dan/W4NTI

http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs...509050369/1095

They're just p###ed because they didn't git to pass this piece of traffic on
their CB reddidio thar! LMAO!

J