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Old November 20th 05, 12:10 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy
 
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Default Pot/Kettle/Black....The Continued Misdeeds and Deceit of the Feeble Five


K4YZ wrote:
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Dave Heil wrote:
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Dave Heil wrote:
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And another thing. Jim, Dave, and Mike just might have been able to
pull Steve back from the brink with a little intervention. But no.
They sanctioned his lunacy by "thier" silence.
I have "another thing" for you, Brian: "Jim, Dave and Mike" are no more
responsible for posts other than their own, than you are responsible for
Mark's, Len Anderson's or Roger Wiseman's.

Never said that you were responsible.

You pointed to us as having had some obligation to pull Steve back from
some brink you've manufactured.


I'm not in manufacturing.


Sure you are.


Nope.

I hope that clears things up for you.

Hope that clears things up for you.

No, it didn't do that at all. If we aren't responsible for Steve's
actions (making them what *you* think they should be), why would we have
pulled him back?


I'm not responsible for other people's kids, but I donate to Toys for
Tots.


A project of the United States Marine Corps Reserve...That's gotta
get you grinding your teeth a bit!


I think the Marines are a great bunch of people. I think that people
that try to catch a ride on "thier" coattails aren't.

I'm not responsible for the neighbors dog biting another neighbor's
kid, but I pulled the dog off.


Hate to see him gnawing on YOUR bone, eh...?!?!


Huh?

Do you see how it works? Not my responsibility, but it was the right
thing to do.


But SO FAR, you've done NOTHING constructive!

You told the aforementioned tales, along with having stated your
"admiration" for a documented pathological liar who ALSO happens to be
trying to undermine the SAME "Amateur Radio" that you are a licensee
of...And "the Morse Code test" has little or nothing to do with what
I am refring to...


You can refring and refring and refring, but you are what a CBer would
call "an Agitater."

Grow up.

But you're a pretty worthless friend to Steve for seeing him carry on
the way he does and saying nothing.

It's hard to say something in a forum where all we have is the written
word.


Even harder when the written word is encoded in dits and dahs, but many
here want it MANDATED.


You've not been paying attention...but then that's not new either.


So you do or you don't want the Morse Code exam kept as a licensing
requirement?

Make up your minds.

Have you written anything to bring your friend Mark Morgan back
to reality?


Reality? How am I supposed to do that. I'm not a medical
professional. ;^)


Markie's problems are psychological, not medical.


Dyslexia is a mental problem?

Perhaps the most effective course of action would be for Steve to get
off Mark's ass and quit calling around Mark's county.


I've not called a single person anywhere about Mark, Brian...


Written letters signed "Xteve Xobeson, LPN?

What have you written to Len toward straightening him out?


I've said he's too hard on you guys.


Uh huh...


Well, he is.

All I've noted here is you egging him on. Some friend *you* are.


Aw, geez. Some of the greatest fun I've had on here was the Hop
Sing-speak; english as a first and second language. It was only
funny because Steve got so upset over it.

Gonna call my wife, gotta show my kids! There's a guy that takes
himself much too seriously.


If you think your baby talk was the issue, then you're lying to
yourself in addition to us.....


That seemed to be what you were commenting about.

Is that the double standard you're always going on about?


OK, Dave, I get your point.

Notice to Len: Start playing nice with these guys when they start
playing nice with you.


Uhhhhhh.....

Brian....

Jim Miccolis has NEVER called the putz anything BUT "Len" or
"Leonard" or any other abbreviation of his name that Lennie didn't
himself use, yet Lennie's pelted him for YEARS with NUMEROUS
diminutives. You have too, yet I have NEVER seen Jim refer to YOU as
anything except "Brian", "Burke", or by your callsign.


We'll start with you. Once you've reformed, we'll work with Jim.

My duty as a friend to Len and good citizen of RRAP is now satisfied.


No...Your duty as a "good citizen" will be done when you
publically state, and then STICK TO IT, your intent to not initiate or
perpetuate the use of diminutives towards people who don't use them on
you.


I call you "Steve" at least 99% of the time. I call Jim by his name
more than 99% of the time. I do slip up once in a while and refer to
him as Quitefine. I wonder why I do that?

Now what do you call me?

And Yes, Brian, I will do the same for you, effective with THIS
post...assuming you do and continue the same. Otherwise, it's right on
back to the mudslinging.


I don't beleive you. We've gone this route before. Yet I continue to
call you Steve and you continue with the diminuitives.

We'll see how long you last this time.

Your turn, Dave.


No, Brian...it's YOURS.

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, K4YZ


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Old November 20th 05, 09:53 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy
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K4YZ wrote:
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Dave Heil wrote:


I'm not in manufacturing.


Sure you are.


Nope.


Sure you are.

I'm not responsible for other people's kids, but I donate to Toys for
Tots.


A project of the United States Marine Corps Reserve...That's gotta
get you grinding your teeth a bit!


I think the Marines are a great bunch of people. I think that people
that try to catch a ride on "thier" coattails aren't.


Me to...That's why I am glad Frankie got court martialed.

You've not been paying attention...but then that's not new either.


So you do or you don't want the Morse Code exam kept as a licensing
requirement?

Make up your minds.


Mine's already made up.

I said it clearly before. I don't like the way things have gone,
but it IS a democratic society. I'd like to see some part of it stay
and have explained myn reasons why.

It's no mystery...Unless you've not been paying attention.

Notice to Len: Start playing nice with these guys when they start
playing nice with you.


Uhhhhhh.....

Brian....

Jim Miccolis has NEVER called the putz anything BUT "Len" or
"Leonard" or any other abbreviation of his name that Lennie didn't
himself use, yet Lennie's pelted him for YEARS with NUMEROUS
diminutives. You have too, yet I have NEVER seen Jim refer to YOU as
anything except "Brian", "Burke", or by your callsign.


We'll start with you. Once you've reformed, we'll work with Jim.


There's nothing to work with with Jim.

He's already establsihed a track record of NOT calling people by
diminutives.

He doesn't do it to Lennie...he doesn't do it to Mark or you.

So...What's YOUR excuse for doing it to him?

My duty as a friend to Len and good citizen of RRAP is now satisfied.


No...Your duty as a "good citizen" will be done when you
publically state, and then STICK TO IT, your intent to not initiate or
perpetuate the use of diminutives towards people who don't use them on
you.


I call you "Steve" at least 99% of the time.


And you mimick Lennie's diminutives. And Frankies.

I call Jim by his name
more than 99% of the time. I do slip up once in a while and refer to
him as Quitefine. I wonder why I do that?


Me too.

But I wonder WHY you call him "Rev Jim", "Jimmie", "Reverend Jim"
AT ALL, Brian.

He's never done anything similar to you that I am even remotelya
ware of....

Now what do you call me?


As of yesterday, I'll call you Brian until you slip back into some
other practice.

A year ago I called you "Brian"...I did slip a couple of times and
immediately apologized for it...

And Yes, Brian, I will do the same for you, effective with THIS
post...assuming you do and continue the same. Otherwise, it's right on
back to the mudslinging.


I don't beleive you. We've gone this route before. Yet I continue to
call you Steve and you continue with the diminuitives.


"believe"

Yes we HAVE gone this rout before...And when you started back in
on the diminutives and mistruths, I asked you point-blank if that's
what you wanted. You indicated you "could take anything you can hand
out"....

OK...We played your game.

Tired yet?

We'll see how long you last this time.


No...

We'll see how long YOU last, Brian.

Steve, K4YZ

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Old November 20th 05, 01:04 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy
 
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Default Pot/Kettle/Black....The Continued Misdeeds and Deceit of the Feeble Five


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:


I'm not in manufacturing.

Sure you are.


Nope.


Sure you are.

I'm not responsible for other people's kids, but I donate to Toys for
Tots.

A project of the United States Marine Corps Reserve...That's gotta
get you grinding your teeth a bit!


I think the Marines are a great bunch of people. I think that people
that try to catch a ride on "thier" coattails aren't.


Me to...That's why I am glad Frankie got court martialed.


That's "Frank." Remember our little agreement?

And Frank wasn't a USMC Reservist.

You've not been paying attention...but then that's not new either.


So you do or you don't want the Morse Code exam kept as a licensing
requirement?

Make up your minds.


Mine's already made up.

I said it clearly before. I don't like the way things have gone,
but it IS a democratic society. I'd like to see some part of it stay
and have explained myn reasons why.

It's no mystery...Unless you've not been paying attention.


I've paid attention to your mixed messages. I was just asking which
way you were going with it yesterday.

Notice to Len: Start playing nice with these guys when they start
playing nice with you.

Uhhhhhh.....

Brian....

Jim Miccolis has NEVER called the putz anything BUT "Len" or
"Leonard" or any other abbreviation of his name that Lennie didn't
himself use, yet Lennie's pelted him for YEARS with NUMEROUS
diminutives. You have too, yet I have NEVER seen Jim refer to YOU as
anything except "Brian", "Burke", or by your callsign.


We'll start with you. Once you've reformed, we'll work with Jim.


There's nothing to work with with Jim.

He's already establsihed a track record of NOT calling people by
diminutives.

He doesn't do it to Lennie...he doesn't do it to Mark or you.

So...What's YOUR excuse for doing it to him?


Like I said, we'll start with you and when you've shown improvement for
some period of time, we can move on to Jim. Jim may take only a minute
or two, but I'm trying to be inclusive here.

My duty as a friend to Len and good citizen of RRAP is now satisfied.

No...Your duty as a "good citizen" will be done when you
publically state, and then STICK TO IT, your intent to not initiate or
perpetuate the use of diminutives towards people who don't use them on
you.


I call you "Steve" at least 99% of the time.


And you mimick Lennie's diminutives. And Frankies.


I "mimick" nothing.

I call Jim by his name
more than 99% of the time. I do slip up once in a while and refer to
him as Quitefine. I wonder why I do that?


Me too.

But I wonder WHY you call him "Rev Jim", "Jimmie", "Reverend Jim"
AT ALL, Brian.


You're not paying attention to attributions. I've ceased calling him
Rev Jim because of his unRev-like bahavior. I do not call him "Jimmie"

He's never done anything similar to you that I am even remotelya
ware of....


I was through with Jim when he said that a Morse Code test would be a
barrier to Morse Code use, then tried to reneg on it. Yet it is
precisely true and is what I've been on here about. Now Jim is only
about being Len's adversary. He's run out of substance.

Now what do you call me?


As of yesterday, I'll call you Brian until you slip back into some
other practice.


There is no other "practice." The things I have posted today are
Quitesimilar the the things that I posted last week.

It is you who must reach for a higher standard.

A year ago I called you "Brian"...I did slip a couple of times and
immediately apologized for it...


A year ago....

And Yes, Brian, I will do the same for you, effective with THIS
post...assuming you do and continue the same. Otherwise, it's right on
back to the mudslinging.


I don't beleive you. We've gone this route before. Yet I continue to
call you Steve and you continue with the diminuitives.


"believe"

Yes we HAVE gone this rout before...And when you started back in
on the diminutives and mistruths, I asked you point-blank if that's
what you wanted. You indicated you "could take anything you can hand
out"....


The diminuitives AND the mistruths. The diminuitives are posted by
other people, but the "mistruths" part...

That's where this whole thing is going to fall apart. You don't have a
good concept on what constitutes the truth.

OK...We played your game.

Tired yet?


You're exhausting me, Steve. I don't know how much longer I can keep
this up for.

We'll see how long you last this time.


No...

We'll see how long YOU last, Brian.

Steve, K4YZ


Steve, I have no problem being civil with people on RRAP. Been doing
most of my time here. Like your concept on truth, you have trouble
differentiating between me and other posters on RRAP.



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K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
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Dave Heil wrote:


I'm not in manufacturing.

Sure you are.


Nope.


Sure you are.


you are the fabricator Stevie

I'm not responsible for other people's kids, but I donate to Toys for
Tots.

A project of the United States Marine Corps Reserve...That's gotta
get you grinding your teeth a bit!


I think the Marines are a great bunch of people. I think that people
that try to catch a ride on "thier" coattails aren't.


Me to...That's why I am glad Frankie got court martialed.


then you are sick proven yet again

You've not been paying attention...but then that's not new either.


So you do or you don't want the Morse Code exam kept as a licensing
requirement?

Make up your minds.


Mine's already made up.

I said it clearly before. I don't like the way things have gone,
but it IS a democratic society. I'd like to see some part of it stay
and have explained myn reasons why.

It's no mystery...Unless you've not been paying attention.


it is just you keep changing your story or do you prfer the term
spining prehaps you are so decietful you can't ask for water when you
are htristy

Notice to Len: Start playing nice with these guys when they start
playing nice with you.

Uhhhhhh.....

Brian....

Jim Miccolis has NEVER called the putz anything BUT "Len" or
"Leonard" or any other abbreviation of his name that Lennie didn't
himself use, yet Lennie's pelted him for YEARS with NUMEROUS
diminutives. You have too, yet I have NEVER seen Jim refer to YOU as
anything except "Brian", "Burke", or by your callsign.


We'll start with you. Once you've reformed, we'll work with Jim.


There's nothing to work with with Jim.


gues you did not read "ONCE YOU refromed"

He's already establsihed a track record of NOT calling people by
diminutives.

He doesn't do it to Lennie...he doesn't do it to Mark or you.

So...What's YOUR excuse for doing it to him?


what excuse is needed

Even hans understands that he is not entitled to only be insulted in
the same maner as he insults


My duty as a friend to Len and good citizen of RRAP is now satisfied.

No...Your duty as a "good citizen" will be done when you
publically state, and then STICK TO IT, your intent to not initiate or
perpetuate the use of diminutives towards people who don't use them on
you.


I call you "Steve" at least 99% of the time.


And you mimick Lennie's diminutives. And Frankies.

I call Jim by his name
more than 99% of the time. I do slip up once in a while and refer to
him as Quitefine. I wonder why I do that?


Me too.

But I wonder WHY you call him "Rev Jim", "Jimmie", "Reverend Jim"
AT ALL, Brian.

He's never done anything similar to you that I am even remotelya
ware of....


becuase it does not work to do so

Now what do you call me?


As of yesterday, I'll call you Brian until you slip back into some
other practice.

A year ago I called you "Brian"...I did slip a couple of times and
immediately apologized for it...

And Yes, Brian, I will do the same for you, effective with THIS
post...assuming you do and continue the same. Otherwise, it's right on
back to the mudslinging.


I don't beleive you. We've gone this route before. Yet I continue to
call you Steve and you continue with the diminuitives.


"believe"

Yes we HAVE gone this rout before...And when you started back in
on the diminutives and mistruths, I asked you point-blank if that's
what you wanted. You indicated you "could take anything you can hand
out"....


when are you going to start telling the turth?

OK...We played your game.

Tired yet?

We'll see how long you last this time.


No...

We'll see how long YOU last, Brian.


we await your starting

Steve, K4YZ


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K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
an old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

We'll see how long you last this time.

No...

We'll see how long YOU last, Brian.

we await your starting


I'm not sure if Steve actually started, but if he did, he didn't last
24 hours before he started yet another new thread posting my name and
callsign and demanding answers.


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

I don't remember EVER saying I wouldn't mention your name nor ask
you questions, including one's that might embarrass you.

That's assinine, Brian. Are you embarrassed of your own name?

Are you not willing to PUT your REAL name behind your words?

I DID say I'd take a more civil tone with you inexchange for the
same consideration.


when were you going to start?

Apparently the offer fell on deaf ears and unwilling flesh.


what offer?

to get something you want Stevie you have to offer something of value
to person you want something from

it is a point you constantly seem to overlook

makes it clear you are stupid but we all know that by now


Did you see in another thread where he changed your attribution from
"an old friend" to "raped an old friend"?


That was Markie...Not you.


BYS you should not be answering a a reply made to me


So...Are you not up to the one-on-one civility thingy, Brian?


when civility is offered it is returned Brain and I are quite civil
even when we disagree

obviously you can't read or haven't bothered to read


What a jerk.


Yes, you're sure shaping up that way, despite your assertions to
the contrary.


projecting agian

Steve, K4YZ




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