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Al Klein August 15th 06 03:10 AM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:41:50 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:30:02 -0400, Al Klein
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:54:10 -0400,
wrote:

not in my opinion which for the pruposes of posting is all that counts


No, actually, "for the purposes of posting", your opinion doesn't
count at all to most people.

you knwo you efforts are getting boring


Then ... what's your famous line? Oh, yes, bail, Markie.

Al Klein August 15th 06 03:12 AM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:43:20 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:31:29 -0400, Al Klein
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:55:07 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 00:12:21 -0400, Al Klein
wrote:


Sorry, I don't share your religious incredulity. I don't recognize
"sin" as anything but a nonsense word.


you certainly a polite ham ....NOT


Is that religious bigotry I'm hearing, Mark? "Accept my beliefs as
fact or be labeled impolite"?

if you are hearing anything seek medical help most like
but you are misreading the stament


You called me impolite because of my religious view.

you can politely disagree with re;ligoous beliefes without labeling
them as nonsense


I didn't label any religious belief as nonsense - that's in your head,
because you don't understand English.

it is not polite to label such thigs as nonsense


It's not impolite to label nonsensical things as nonsense.

if you were polite youd know that


If you were at least a tad intelligent, you'd know a lot that you
don't know now.

Al Klein August 15th 06 03:16 AM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:33:50 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:02:16 -0400, Al Klein
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:55:58 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

No, I'm wishing that every amateur radio operator had
an above average IQ.


Easy solution - only award licenses to those with above average IQs.


only if you throw away a little document like the constitution


So we have to give everyone a driver's license, even those who can't
drive? And let everyone vote, even those who are mentally
incompetent? No discrimination based on anything?

The Constitution doesn't prevent us from imposing standards, Markie.
And the law certainly doesn't guarantee that we're all equal, only
that we all be given equal opportunity to EARN what we want. There's
no Constitutional guarantee that the government will give us
everything we want, or that it can't treat different people in
accordance with those differences.

L. August 15th 06 04:08 AM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 

wrote in message
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 22:16:54 -0400, Al Klein
wrote:


I'm not sure where you're coming from with "these" statements.............

today theere is NO requirement for CW testing. It is not needed that I
know CW in order to operate at all. Indeed even if we don't stick to
band plans I don't need to be able read a CW signal to know it is
there, and reconize the frequency is in use


UNTIL the Code requirement is abolished for good - which to my
recollection - it has not for U.S. hams (yet), then to get on H.F. you most
certainly are required to pass the 5 WPM code exam.

no harm will result if I don't know Morse code many hams ven now on HF
don't know it well enough to use indeed there was never a test to
determine if we could use it on the air at all


Also, I think if you read Part 97 - you may be surprised. VEs can give
either a receiving test OR "sending" test. USUALLY (most of the time) - it
is a "receiving" test. Whatever it takes for them to have "the examinee"
prove his/her knowledge of the code at 5 WPM. For example, you could claim
tone deafness to me - ok - so instead of "receiving" the code, I could have
you "send" the code. Before the code dropped to 5 WPM - you could get a
doctor to sign a waiver and you got code credit. BUT once the code was
dropped, so too were the waivers. I know it may sound hokey to have you
"send" code if you claim tone deafness, but the other options are a buzzer
sending YOU the code - you decipher - or a flashing light or whatever. AND
the FCC stated to the VEs that THOSE claiming handicaps are the ones
responsible for supplying the equipment to enable them to have every
reasonable chance of passing. Also, that code test "could" be broken down
into segments. Instead of playing a tape with a full message as you would to
most applicants, the VEs could break it down in segments of letters, words,
sentences at a time for someone with severe handicaps. WHATEVER was able to
give that applicant every reasonable chance of passing without much stress.
Argue that with THEM - "I" didn't make the rules.

So, just when was it that CODE was "abolished" as an "Exam" requirement?
Maybe I missed some mail from the VECs and FCC to tell me to quit testing
for 5 WPM code to get on H.F. ........... You give me a date that it went
into effect, and I'll retract my post.............

L.



L. August 15th 06 04:44 AM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 

wrote in message
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:08:35 -0400, "L." wrote:


wrote in message
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 22:16:54 -0400, Al Klein
wrote:


I'm not sure where you're coming from with "these" statements.............

today theere is NO requirement for CW testing. It is not needed that I
know CW in order to operate at all. Indeed even if we don't stick to
band plans I don't need to be able read a CW signal to know it is
there, and reconize the frequency is in use


UNTIL the Code requirement is abolished for good -

the is no need or proper reason if you prefer that wording
http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/

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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


OK, I'll buy that - but again, until the code {exam} is "ABOLISHED" - we are
"required" to have it for H.F. I WILL agree, once many pass their code
exams, they never see a key or listen to a code tape - again...........

For what it is worth and THIS I've not kept up with - I have heard that
there is a move afoot - by the FCC themselves - to abolish the code
requirement. For some strange reason, September or October of this year
comes to mind. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

L.



Cecil Moore August 15th 06 04:48 AM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that persondie?
 
Al Klein wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:

Al Klein wrote:
Those trying to eliminate the code requirement are the ones trying to
alter history.


The past cannot be altered. Only the present, which is not
history, can be altered.


WOW! Did you come up with that with no outside help? (I'm not
overwhelmed - I'm not even whelmed.)


You are the one who suggested above that it is possible
to alter the past, i.e. "alter history".
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Cecil Moore August 15th 06 04:57 AM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that persondie?
 
Al Klein wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
Following your line of reasoning, skill with buggy whips
should be part of the requirements for a driver's license.


For driving a four-in-hand, it should be. There's a keyer in my
fairly new rig.


Get you a four-on-the-floor Mustang and beat it with a
buggy whip to make it go faster?

And Real Hams use straight keys to key cathodes, not some
computer assisted solid-state modern electronic crap.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Cecil Moore August 15th 06 04:59 AM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that persondie?
 
Al Klein wrote:
Your accusation that I implied that Cecil stole his license is mine?
Not in this universe.


Who was it who said a Conditional exam taken away
from an FCC office probably involved cheating?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Al Klein August 15th 06 01:33 PM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:44:51 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:41:34 -0400, Al Klein
wrote:


Or typed something that was beyond your comprehension - a double
negative.


which is gramticaly incorect so you would NNOT do that


Says who?

Al Klein August 15th 06 01:35 PM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 
On 14 Aug 2006 18:42:55 -0700, "
wrote:

From: Al Klein on Sun, Aug 13 2006 9:15 pm
Groups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna, rec.radio.amateur.policy,
rec.radio.scanner, rec.radio.swap


On 12 Aug 2006 18:58:18 -0700, "an old friend" wrote:
wrote:
How did capacitors escape getting color coded?
ssshhhhh bb don't ask such questions please


Since a) you don't know the answer and b) they didn't.


Klein, you said you were an OF. Any olde-fahrt ought to KNOW that
silver-mica capacitors were color-dot-coded for about a quarter
century. [look in the 1976 ARRL Handbook] Those flat cases
were eventually displaced by dipped silver-mica.

Paper tubular capacitors in molded plastic tubular casings were
marked with color bands and were on the market for at least
15 years, maybe 20...until aced out by ceramic disc capacitors
for general bypassing and coupling applications (by both tube
and transistor architecture electronics).

ANYONE with hands-on experience in electronics between 1950
and about 1970 would KNOW that. [okay, folks, looks like
there's another imposter here...at least this one isn't
trying to pass hisself off as some marine NCO...:-)


Try reading what I wrote. "They didn't" ... "escape". Looks like the
impostor (as far as understanding simple English) isn't me.


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