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iBiquity is well financed, and radio has invested over $200 million
just
in
hardware already.

It will never catch on. There are about 200 million car radios
out there who can't rx the digital signal and you would be hard
pressed to find 1000 people who would toss their car radios
just to be able to get the IB signal. Just like Siruis and XM
this to is destined for the scrap heap in a Year's or 2's time at best.

First, less than a third of radio listening is done in the car. Second,
new
cars are sold every year, and there are aftermarket radios and add-ons
that
will eventually contribute to the penetration of HD, especially since the
HD2 channels are free and can only be had with an HD radio.

.....sure! (keep dreaming) The HD upgrade for my Subaru at the dealer
was $800. How many people do you know would put down that kind
of cabbage to get a radio upgrade - apart from dumbass ham radio
operators of course..?

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:15:17 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


XM stock is off 60% in the last 18 months, as investment analysts project
slower growth. Satellite represents less than 0.5% of radio listening now,
and would have to get near 20 million subscribers just to represent a 1
share of national listening... that is at least 3 years away.


Bull****. There will be 20 MM listeners in under a year. Each sub
represents more than 1 listener. Price per share is not the
Arbitrons.

Your dismissive attitude toward the exurban audience is symtomatic of
the dinosaur radio business in general. Y'all are a bunch of
assholes. It's conveyed in the programming.

For your information, my neighborhood is full of satellite radio
subscribers.

David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:36:56 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:19:43 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Based on extensive studies of Arbitron diary returns, 95% of all
listening
(quarter hours) happens in the 64 dbu contour, however it is measured.
The
fact is, outside that contour, there is little listening.


That's geography. Little don't mean none. The smart people don't
live in the city.

Sorry, but advertisers are not interested in people outside the metro
(MSA).


And we aren't interested in you. That's why we have Sirius and XM and
your HD is going to fail.

XM stock is off 60% in the last 18 months, as investment analysts project
slower growth. Satellite represents less than 0.5% of radio listening now,
and would have to get near 20 million subscribers just to represent a 1
share of national listening... that is at least 3 years away.

Boy David, caught you talking out of you ass - you were defending XM on
radio-info !

David Eduardo wrote:

"Gridleakkbe3" wrote in message
groups.com...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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iBiquity is well financed, and radio has invested over $200 million just
in
hardware already.

It will never catch on. There are about 200 million car radios
out there who can't rx the digital signal and you would be hard
pressed to find 1000 people who would toss their car radios
just to be able to get the IB signal. Just like Siruis and XM
this to is destined for the scrap heap in a Year's or 2's time at best.

First, less than a third of radio listening is done in the car. Second, new
cars are sold every year, and there are aftermarket radios and add-ons that
will eventually contribute to the penetration of HD, especially since the
HD2 channels are free and can only be had with an HD radio.


My dad and step mom just bought a new Honda Element with XM radio.
They weren't interested in IBOC, and the dealer couldn't talk them into
it. If a car salesman can't sell something. it says a lot.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

"Gridleakkbe3" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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"Gridleakkbe3" wrote in message
groups.com...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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iBiquity is well financed, and radio has invested over $200 million
just
in
hardware already.

It will never catch on. There are about 200 million car radios
out there who can't rx the digital signal and you would be hard
pressed to find 1000 people who would toss their car radios
just to be able to get the IB signal. Just like Siruis and XM
this to is destined for the scrap heap in a Year's or 2's time at best.

First, less than a third of radio listening is done in the car. Second,
new
cars are sold every year, and there are aftermarket radios and add-ons
that
will eventually contribute to the penetration of HD, especially since the
HD2 channels are free and can only be had with an HD radio.

....sure! (keep dreaming) The HD upgrade for my Subaru at the dealer
was $800. How many people do you know would put down that kind
of cabbage to get a radio upgrade - apart from dumbass ham radio
operators of course..?

I am surprised they offered it. The real rollout of HD is just starting
today! Of course, the XM for my car was offered at more than that, plus $150
a year.

David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo' nearly crapped his panties when he
wrote:

"Gridleakkbe3" wrote in message
groups.com...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
.com...

"Gridleakkbe3" wrote in message
groups.com...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. com...

iBiquity is well financed, and radio has invested over $200 million
just
in
hardware already.

It will never catch on. There are about 200 million car radios
out there who can't rx the digital signal and you would be hard
pressed to find 1000 people who would toss their car radios
just to be able to get the IB signal. Just like Siruis and XM
this to is destined for the scrap heap in a Year's or 2's time at best.

First, less than a third of radio listening is done in the car. Second,
new
cars are sold every year, and there are aftermarket radios and add-ons
that
will eventually contribute to the penetration of HD, especially since the
HD2 channels are free and can only be had with an HD radio.

....sure! (keep dreaming) The HD upgrade for my Subaru at the dealer
was $800. How many people do you know would put down that kind
of cabbage to get a radio upgrade - apart from dumbass ham radio
operators of course..?

I am surprised they offered it. The real rollout of HD is just starting
today!

You sound so excited, oh shilling one!

I was at the Wal Mart store this afternoon.The cheap old AM/FM radio I
bought at a K Mart store about seventeen years ago,it quit working a few
years ago.I looked at the auto radios in the store,I saw a price tag
thingy on the shelf for a radio priced at about $27.00 but that radio
wasen't on the shelf or I would have bought it.Radio listening when I am
driving makes me nervous anyway,so I am not in any hurry.

I bought a dress thingy for $2.85 at the Goodwill store this afternoon
too.I dont know what it's called,it is sort of like a dress but the
lower part is made sort of like pants legs and it has a zipper from the
waist on up.Of course I tried it on in the store before I bought it to
make it fits me ok,it looks cute on me.
cuhulin

I get at least sixty nine XM music channels with my DirecTV.I never
asked for them,but they are there.
cuhulin

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"David" wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:36:56 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:19:43 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Based on extensive studies of Arbitron diary returns, 95% of all
listening (quarter hours) happens in the 64 dbu contour, however
it is measured. The fact is, outside that contour, there is
little listening.


That's geography. Little don't mean none. The smart people
don't live in the city.

Sorry, but advertisers are not interested in people outside the
metro (MSA).


And we aren't interested in you. That's why we have Sirius and XM
and your HD is going to fail.

XM stock is off 60% in the last 18 months, as investment analysts
project slower growth. Satellite represents less than 0.5% of radio
listening now, and would have to get near 20 million subscribers just
to represent a 1 share of national listening... that is at least 3
years away.

XM and Sirius stock are both off for missing the goals on subscriber
growth projections that now have been revised. The revised brake even
point is 1 to 2 years away for both companies. Might happen or it might
not.

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Telamon
Ventura, California