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One more thing, cuhulin ...
What, as a Bush supporter, am I supposed to do when I hear Chuck Harder
refer to the guy I voted for - twice - as a "dictator," a "fascist,"
someone who "deliberately" emasculated the U.S., someone who "loves
illegals but hates the middle class"?

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I am amused that for someone who detests Harder so much, you spend so
much time listening to him. I listen to him ocasionally and have found
many of his guests to be well-informed. I also get the impression that
he is quite patriotic. However, I do not have enough listening time to
go further than that.
As a Canadian, I scrupulously avoid any comments on US politics (a)
because it is none of my business, and (b) I am uninformed. Also,
under the new anti-terrorism bills passed this week that have shredded
the Constitution ( rather like Hitler's Enabling Acts of 1933)...oops,
did I say that?, a secret ops hit team could come in to Canada, kidnap
a designated citizen, sprit him across the border to a US jail where he
could be held incommunicado for years or sent to a CIA-designated
torture center in a foreign land. Read the legislation: it's in there.
And it has been done already.
If "deliberately emasculating the US" could apply to the economic
status of the US, who was in charge when the US national debt rocketed
up in the trillions and the foreign trade deficit approached 700
billion a year and the value of the US dollar dropped 35%? Just asking.
As far as class structure is concerned, the middle class is
declining, workers' wages are stagnant, and the wealthy are making out
like bandits. I wouldn't say Bush hates the middle class though: I just
think he doesn't give a damn.
Considering the slander, name calling, and take-no-prisoners
attitude that passes for debate in the US these days, I think that
avoiding US politics is a good idea particularly since I don't have a
dog in this fight and I should go do something else until mid-November.

You sound intelligent, ve3, but your pathological anti-Bush attitude
("he doesn't give a damn," etc.) belies your veneer of intellectual
certitude.
No doubt you think I'm a Nazi because I support Bush. Surprise! I'm
Jewish!
Ah, what little you know of us American Bush supporters. You've been
fed the pabulum that we're all little goose-stepping Gestapo agents
("goose-stapos," if you wish to play with words).
If you were really, truly smart, you would form your own opinons about
Bush rather than parrot the virulent anti-Bush attitude of Chuck Harder
and others.
Stay in Canada, ve3. We don't want you down here.

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Stay in Canada, ve3. We don't want you down here.

That reminds me of the old slogan of the 30's "Come visit us before we
come visit you." My greatest concern is that plans for a North American
Alliance being developed in secret by the elite will get to the point
where Canada, the US, and Mexico will be combined a la European Union.
I think that a foreigner would be nuts to visit the US with these new
laws in place. One mistake and he could find himself on a rack in
Moldavia. So don't alarm yourseld: I ain't coming, although I wonder at
your Royal "we" ...does the State Department know about this? Or does
"we" mean that you have a tapeworm? Which outfit are you speaking for?
My opinion about George Bush is based on the economic performance of
the last six years, the invasion of Iraq, and the mass invasion of
Mexicans across the southern border. It has nothing to do with Harder.
I understand that millions of patriotic Americans support the Democrats
and have a similar opinion to mine.

www.devilfinder.com Canadians in Mississippi

I was born and raised in the Magnolia State,also known as the
Hospitality State.It's called MISSISSIPPI.
I am not going to tell any Canadians to stay out of MISSISSIPPI or
AMERICA.They are more than WELLCOME to Visit anywhere in AMERICA and
move to AMERICA if they so choose.

My beef is with fed govt's Illegal Aliens coming to AMERICA and
destroying AMERICA.devilfinder.com Amish in Mississippi
Amish people like Mississippi too and I like them.
www.visitmississippi.org
cuhulin

My greatest concern is that plans for a North American
Alliance being developed in secret by the elite will get to the point
where Canada, the US, and Mexico will be combined a la European Union.

Sigh ... there you go again, spouting conspiracy theories.
This whole SPP brohaha is just so much "michigoss" (Yiddish for
"crap"), so much so that the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has condemned
folks like Chuck Harder for spreading lies about SPP.
There is NO plan to create a "North American Union"; there is NO plan
to eliminate the U.S. dollar and replace it with the "Amero."
Just like those REAL knuckledraggers - the so-called "citizen militias"
of the mid-1990's - the adherents to the SPP conspiracy theory are
engaging in abject stupidity. Like the REAL Nazis, they will believe
everything that they hear.
I do not. I did not believe the Right when it severely criticized Bill
Clinton; I thought Clinton did a good job on things like crime, taxes,
the budget deficit, and yes, trade.
On foreign policy and terrorism, well ...
I'll say it right here, ve3: You are very, very stupid and ignorant.
So are you, cuhulin.
The mark of a Chuck Harder supporter!

Like the Bell South divorced woman told me a couple of days ago when I
stepped over there to hand her their snail mail,,, Opinions are like
as.holes and everybody has one.

Before you ask,Why do I step over and get their snail mail after I get
my snail mail from our snail mail boxes by the side of the road? Because
I once saw a democrat (if y'all know what I mean) kid walking up the
street and he put his hand on her snail mail box.I jumped on my phone
and I called her in Natchez,Mississippi and I told her all about it.I
asked her if she wanted me to pick up their snail mail and hold it
untill they get back.She said,I would appreciate it if you would.

Now,You start squaking and you go hollering to barney frank.By the
way,there is a guy who had to retire out of the U.S.Army because of
diabetes.He used to live in the same house house next door to me.I used
to pick up his snail mail too because he had to get a major heart
operation a few years ago and he wound up living in the Veterans Home a
mile and a half North of me.I used to take his snail mail to his brother
in laws home six miles South of me because his brother in law and his
sister handle his snail mail thingys for him.
cuhulin

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Like the Bell South divorced woman told me a couple of days ago when I
stepped over there to hand her their snail mail,,, Opinions are like
as.holes and everybody has one.

Please note that I have never called you stupid and ignorant. That was
some other weasel.

ve3,I wasen't specifically refering to you in particular about what the
Bell South woman said.But she is right.She cusses so much,almost every
other word she says is a cuss word.(Don't cuss,call Gus and he will cuss
for all of us) She is really very nice though.She is a tomboy Country
girl.She showed me a couple of photos on her cell phone of where she
lives at Old River near Natchez.It is just like some of those places we
sometimes see in some movies.
cuhulin

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My greatest concern is that plans for a North American
Alliance being developed in secret by the elite will get to the point
where Canada, the US, and Mexico will be combined a la European Union.

Sigh ... there you go again, spouting conspiracy theories.
This whole SPP brohaha is just so much "michigoss" (Yiddish for
"crap"), so much so that the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has condemned
folks like Chuck Harder for spreading lies about SPP.
There is NO plan to create a "North American Union"; there is NO plan
to eliminate the U.S. dollar and replace it with the "Amero."
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I realize that the controlled press in the US makes no mention of the
NAU or the Bilderburgers or the CFR , but they have had meetings in
Toronto, Ottawa, and Banff that have been well covered in the Canadian
press. The recent one in Ottawa featured shouting matches between US
and European members about the US plan to invade Iran. I must tell them
at their next meeting in Canada that they do not exist. Are you a paid
agent of the ADL or the Southern Poverty Law Center tasked with
harassing Chuck Harder? Why else would you spend so much time listening
to someone you detest? Why would you revive this old thread? It was
interesting to fid out, however, that the ADL is against free speech..
And why do you ignore the facts and ideas I put forward in previus post
in favour of some new straw man?

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My greatest concern is that plans for a North American
Alliance being developed in secret by the elite will get to the point
where Canada, the US, and Mexico will be combined a la European Union.

Sigh ... there you go again, spouting conspiracy theories.
This whole SPP brohaha is just so much "michigoss" (Yiddish for
"crap"), so much so that the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has condemned
folks like Chuck Harder for spreading lies about SPP.
There is NO plan to create a "North American Union"; there is NO plan
to eliminate the U.S. dollar and replace it with the "Amero."
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I realize that the controlled press in the US makes no mention of the
NAU or the Bilderburgers or the CFR , but they have had meetings in
Toronto, Ottawa, and Banff that have been well covered in the Canadian
press. The recent one in Ottawa featured shouting matches between US
and European members about the US plan to invade Iran. I must tell them
at their next meeting in Canada that they do not exist. Are you a paid
agent of the ADL or the Southern Poverty Law Center tasked with
harassing Chuck Harder? Why else would you spend so much time listening
to someone you detest? Why would you revive this old thread? It was
interesting to fid out, however, that the ADL is against free speech..
And why do you ignore the facts and ideas I put forward in previus post
in favour of some new straw man?

It's obvious ... you, sir, are an anti-Semite.
You hate Jews.
You hate Israel.
And you probably hate me because a) I'm Jewish; and b) I speak out when
I hear anti-Semites.
I do not "ignore the facts"; if you carefully read my posts, I do not
disagree with you that the U.S. has serious economic issues that need
to be addressed -- like income distribution, trade, the loss of
manufacturing jobs (the NYC area, home to about 2 million Jews, has
lost about 1 million factory jobs since 1979), immigration, and so
forth.
You mentioned the "controlled press." Who "controls" the press, ve3?
The Jews? Obviously you think so, with your anti-ADL rants.
Wow ... this whole anti-Semitic "Jews control the world" claptrap is
truly amazing. As horrible and barbaric as the classical racist
paradigm was, it at least had an identifiable pedigree -- they just
didn't look like the rest of us! So they must be different - and
inferior! That is of course a vicious lie, but a lie that led to much
misery, violence and death in the U.S. in the last 200 years or so.
But look at anti-Semitism. That has led to even more violence, misery
and death -- culminating in the Holocaust.
Oh ... you probably believe the Holocaust didn't happen. Those crafty
devil Jews ... how clever ... they faked the whole thing! Amazing!!
As much as I know about anti-Semitism, I still do not -- after about 40
years of studying it -- do not know why it even exists. It should not
exist. By every logical, physical, and metaphysical argument, it should
have died out about 2,000 years ago. Yet it goes on and on and on.
Oh, and finally, I am NOT a "paid agent" of the ADL, the SPLC, of
anybody. That is a totally asinine assertion.
One more thing: The ADL and the SPLC are not "against free speech."
They have never, never, never tried to muzzle freedom of expression.
They are center-left organizations, to be sure, and have even teamed
with the "dreaded" ACLU in free-speech cases.
I think I have "vented my spleen" enough here ...

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the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has condemned
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It's obvious ... you, sir, are an anti-Semite.
You hate Jews.
You hate Israel.
And you probably hate me because a) I'm Jewish; and b) I speak out when
I hear anti-Semites.

As much as I know about anti-Semitism, I still do not -- after about 40
years of studying it -- do not know why it even exists. It
One more thing: The ADL and the SPLC are not "against free speech."
They have never, never, never tried to muzzle freedom of expression.

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You must be nuts to think that you can engage in name-calling and
slander and think that anyone will discuss with you. One disagreement
and it's pull out the old anti-semite card and see who salutes. Well, I
don't play that game and I kill-file those that do. You don't answer
previous posts, you introduce new topics unrelated to the discussion,
and you slander. Debating with you is like mud-wrestling with a pig.
You get dirty, there's all kinds of **** flying around, and at the end
of it all you're left with is ten new turds to deal with. Did it ever
occur to you in your 40 years of anti-semite searches that maybe its
YOU that people don't like and anti-semitism has nothing to do with it?
My advice is to take your angst and anomie and stick it up your ass
where it might do some good. Adios, Lennie.. click..plop