On 2006-09-08 22:30:52 -0400, "ve3..." said:

I have heard from a usually reliable source ( he usually pays for my
coffee) that new computers, television sets, cellphones and cable
boxes are fitted with audio devices that can listen to what is said in
the area and transmit the audio to a monitoring center. Certainly the
Onstar has this potential and so do cellphones. The source says that
there is a little subassembly on the mainboard as they have not yet
integrated the listening device in the mainboard of a computer.
Supposedly you can disconnect this device to ensure privacy. It is
supposedly required by Homeland security so they can listen in to
terrorists etc, but it responds to key words a la Eschalon to determine
public trends. All my equipment is too old to have such a thing and I
wonder if anyone has heard of this or is it just an urban myth. I think
my 8-track is safe. My first reaction is to think that the audio would
be too muffled and echoed to be of much use. I know that someone ( I
think Sony) has developed a picture tube that will produce a picture
and transmit the room image at the same time. There can only be one
purpose for this device.



LOL!!! Paranoia is a terrible thing folks!

Johnny Borborigmi wrote:
On 2006-09-08 22:30:52 -0400, "ve3..." said:

..

LOL!!! Paranoia is a terrible thing folks!
You obviously don't know anything about surveillance. I suggest you
look up "echalon" on google. You will get about 22,000 hits. Read some
and be aware that this old system pales beside what they can do now.
It is based on the recognition of key words and enabled by awesome
computer power.
Paranoia can be useful if they are really out to get you. Ha ha hehhe
hoho.

In article .com,
"ve3..." wrote:

Johnny Borborigmi wrote:
On 2006-09-08 22:30:52 -0400, "ve3..." said:

..

LOL!!! Paranoia is a terrible thing folks!
You obviously don't know anything about surveillance. I suggest you
look up "echalon" on google. You will get about 22,000 hits. Read
some and be aware that this old system pales beside what they can do
now. It is based on the recognition of key words and enabled by
awesome computer power. Paranoia can be useful if they are really out
to get you. Ha ha hehhe hoho.

This is a bunch on nonsense. Ask yourself why the government would want
to spy on everyone. There is no reason to do so even if it were possible.

Terrorist¹s organizations are today¹s guerrillas where the people that
make up these groups are spread out throughout the world and so they
have to use everyday communications channels to develop their nefarious
plans. These are the communications the government is interested in
intercepting not spying on your boring life. The government activity is
intercepting communications in transit not planting bugs in people¹s
houses. There is no need to plant bugs in electronic devices as the
government has access to the communications infrastructure.

If you have the need to worry about something worry about the NYT that
sees it¹s duty as going about reveling the governments efforts to use
the Intel gathered against the terrorists. The liberals that run the NYT
are a real threat to the USA¹s efforts to use this Intel against the
terrorists. If I were president, I would find a way to put those people
in jail for a long time at hard labor filling sand bags in Iraq.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

In article .com,
"ve3..." wrote:

Johnny Borborigmi wrote:
On 2006-09-08 22:30:52 -0400, "ve3..." said:

..

LOL!!! Paranoia is a terrible thing folks!
You obviously don't know anything about surveillance. I suggest you
look up "echalon" on google. You will get about 22,000 hits. Read
some and be aware that this old system pales beside what they can do
now. It is based on the recognition of key words and enabled by
awesome computer power. Paranoia can be useful if they are really out
to get you. Ha ha hehhe hoho.

Telamon wrote:

This is a bunch on nonsense. Ask yourself why the government would want
to spy on everyone. There is no reason to do so even if it were possible.

Terrorist¹s organizations are today¹s guerrillas where the people that
make up these groups are spread out throughout the world and so they
have to use everyday communications channels to develop their nefarious
plans. These are the communications the government is interested in
intercepting not spying on your boring life. The government activity is
intercepting communications in transit not planting bugs in people¹s
houses. There is no need to plant bugs in electronic devices as the
government has access to the communications infrastructure.

If you have the need to worry about something worry about the NYT that
sees it¹s duty as going about reveling the governments efforts to use
the Intel gathered against the terrorists. The liberals that run the NYT
are a real threat to the USA¹s efforts to use this Intel against the
terrorists. If I were president, I would find a way to put those people
in jail for a long time at hard labor filling sand bags in Iraq.

Again?

Yet *ANOTHER* off topic post by that sanctimonious hypocrite Telamon????

Why don't you plonk yourself? You've certainly earned it!

In article ,
Clean Your Clock? wrote:

In article .com,
"ve3..." wrote:

Johnny Borborigmi wrote:
On 2006-09-08 22:30:52 -0400, "ve3..." said:

..

LOL!!! Paranoia is a terrible thing folks!
You obviously don't know anything about surveillance. I suggest you
look up "echalon" on google. You will get about 22,000 hits. Read
some and be aware that this old system pales beside what they can do
now. It is based on the recognition of key words and enabled by
awesome computer power. Paranoia can be useful if they are really out
to get you. Ha ha hehhe hoho.

Telamon wrote:

This is a bunch on nonsense. Ask yourself why the government would want
to spy on everyone. There is no reason to do so even if it were possible.

Terrorist¹s organizations are today¹s guerrillas where the people that
make up these groups are spread out throughout the world and so they
have to use everyday communications channels to develop their nefarious
plans. These are the communications the government is interested in
intercepting not spying on your boring life. The government activity is
intercepting communications in transit not planting bugs in people¹s
houses. There is no need to plant bugs in electronic devices as the
government has access to the communications infrastructure.

If you have the need to worry about something worry about the NYT that
sees it¹s duty as going about reveling the governments efforts to use
the Intel gathered against the terrorists. The liberals that run the NYT
are a real threat to the USA¹s efforts to use this Intel against the
terrorists. If I were president, I would find a way to put those people
in jail for a long time at hard labor filling sand bags in Iraq.

Again?

Yet *ANOTHER* off topic post by that sanctimonious hypocrite Telamon????

Why don't you plonk yourself? You've certainly earned it!

Yeah and I just sent another one.

Plonk

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon isn't a hippo hipocrite.
cuhulin

On 2006-09-09 17:36:16 -0400, Telamon
said:

In article .com,
"ve3..." wrote:

Johnny Borborigmi wrote:
On 2006-09-08 22:30:52 -0400, "ve3..." said:

..

LOL!!! Paranoia is a terrible thing folks!
You obviously don't know anything about surveillance. I suggest you
look up "echalon" on google. You will get about 22,000 hits. Read some
and be aware that this old system pales beside what they can do now.
It is based on the recognition of key words and enabled by awesome
computer power. Paranoia can be useful if they are really out to get
you. Ha ha hehhe hoho.

This is a bunch on nonsense. Ask yourself why the government would want
to spy on everyone. There is no reason to do so even if it were
possible.


They can spy on me until the cows come home, I'm clean. I have nothiing
to worry about.

I will swipe some hemorrhoid pictures from somewhere for them to spy on.
cuhulin

NYT???? New York Times??? My dumbo mind wants to know.
cuhulin,the dumbo

On 2006-09-09 08:52:51 -0400, "ve3..." said:


Johnny Borborigmi wrote:
On 2006-09-08 22:30:52 -0400, "ve3..." said:

..

LOL!!! Paranoia is a terrible thing folks!
You obviously don't know anything about surveillance. I suggest you
look up "echalon" on google. You will get about 22,000 hits. Read some
and be aware that this old system pales beside what they can do now.
It is based on the recognition of key words and enabled by awesome
computer power.
Paranoia can be useful if they are really out to get you. Ha ha hehhe
hoho.


Yeah I know. Sorry but I don't spend my life ****ting my pants over
this type of stuff. You can of coarse so by all means feel free!