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David Eduardo - A Recent Conversation
D Peter Maus wrote: dxAce wrote: D Peter Maus wrote: dxAce wrote: D Peter Maus wrote: And you may be right. But, I have seen it done. And I've seen it done at at least one station in Chicago. Don't forget another participant in this newsgroup who used the flame wars he started on RRS for his classroom. As well, he put them up in edited form on an anti-nazi website, one that was quoted in a Peter Jennings story on ABC News. I must have somehow missed that one, or forgotten about it. What was it about? Actually, you were instrumental in running that one off. A certain "professor" who took it upon himself to create chaos where there was none. Ahhh... It's all coming back to me now! Yes.....good times. Indeed! |
David Eduardo - A Recent Conversation
Mee see see pee pee eye doesn't have any Radio stations that play good
old Polka Music.But,howsomever,I remember back in the 1940's/1950's there was at least one Radio station that used to play a Polka Music song or tree once in a while.I love that old Polka Music.What's I gotta do? Look up some Polka Music on the enterhernet and then step over to the Be Bop music store across Highway 80 from me and get that dudette woman over there to order some Polka Music on CDs for me? cuhulin |
David Eduardo - A Recent Conversation
It was me that got niehaus (in North Carolina) to put the Dixie
song/music in their website. cuhulin |
David Eduardo - A Recent Conversation
On Feb 21, 1:34 pm, dxAce wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote: dxAce wrote: D Peter Maus wrote: dxAce wrote: D Peter Maus wrote: And you may be right. But, I have seen it done. And I've seen it done at at least one station in Chicago. Don't forget another participant in this newsgroup who used the flame wars he started on RRS for his classroom. As well, he put them up in edited form on an anti-nazi website, one that was quoted in a Peter Jennings story on ABC News. I must have somehow missed that one, or forgotten about it. What was it about? Actually, you were instrumental in running that one off. A certain "professor" who took it upon himself to create chaos where there was none. Ahhh... It's all coming back to me now! Yes.....good times. Indeed!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I wish I'd been in the group at that time. I think that was just a tad before I started reading RRS. I always miss out! |
David Eduardo - A Recent Conversation
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... Actually, when I was at CBS, the GM had the AOL Radio boards up on a machine in the conference room, so staff could receive and respond to questions from listeners in a public forum. He cruised all the radio boards and some newsgroups every day, as a manner of getting street level input. This went on for more than a year. Not only is the contnt on boards interesting, it comes at times from so far in left field that it forces a person actually in radio to verify their thinking. I have actually changed my perspectives on a number of areas, based on having "we have always done it this way" theories questioned or even destroyed by active listeners on boards. Not only is that often the case, but it forces one to research data to rebut an argument. At no time have I become so aware of the problems facing AM as afer looking at a dozen or so major markets in Arbitron over the last decade to document a point. Normally, I would have simply had an "impression" based on experience, but not real hard facts... which were far worse than my impression. It was a good idea in theory but wasn't very effective as a tool because the boards quickly became overrun by sockpuppets for a handful of gripers, a few of whom were staff at the competition. And there was a lot of the usual flame war bickering. Flame wars? Here? But what came out of the experiment, especially early on, was a clear object lesson to the staff at how little the most vocal listeners really knew or understood how the radio business worked. And how little they cared about knowing. And that teaches everyone that the random request or comment or complaint has to be taken in the context of the entirity of a station's listenership. So, it's not inconceivable that he may, indeed, have it up on a machine in house. I had it on a big screen last night in Houston at a hotel where we were going to do a research project later in the day; I used it as an example of the "reliabilty" of a single listener's opinion vs. that of the universe of listeners. And it's likely that some of his associates are participating. Nearly my entire research staff was there. It was very educational in that it showed that single opinions can cover a very great range from one side of an issue to another, but the vast majority, around 90%, are concentrated in a very narrow and relatively similar range. Knowing how to distinguish the fringe from the core is one of the essential skills of a radio programmer or manager. Separating wheat from the chaff is an old concept, often forgotten. The internet is a great leveler, but does not make a distinction between the well reasoned and documented and the blindly opinionated. |
David Eduardo - A Recent Conversation
David Frackelton Gleason, who, posing as 'Eduardo' finds it so easy to lie at the drop of a sombrero or a young boys pantalunes, wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... Actually, when I was at CBS, the GM had the AOL Radio boards up on a machine in the conference room, so staff could receive and respond to questions from listeners in a public forum. He cruised all the radio boards and some newsgroups every day, as a manner of getting street level input. This went on for more than a year. Not only is the contnt on boards interesting, it comes at times from so far in left field that it forces a person actually in radio to verify their thinking. I have actually changed my perspectives on a number of areas, based on having "we have always done it this way" theories questioned or even destroyed by active listeners on boards. Not only is that often the case, but it forces one to research data to rebut an argument. At no time have I become so aware of the problems facing AM as afer looking at a dozen or so major markets in Arbitron over the last decade to document a point. Normally, I would have simply had an "impression" based on experience, but not real hard facts... which were far worse than my impression. It was a good idea in theory but wasn't very effective as a tool because the boards quickly became overrun by sockpuppets for a handful of gripers, a few of whom were staff at the competition. And there was a lot of the usual flame war bickering. Flame wars? Here? But what came out of the experiment, especially early on, was a clear object lesson to the staff at how little the most vocal listeners really knew or understood how the radio business worked. And how little they cared about knowing. And that teaches everyone that the random request or comment or complaint has to be taken in the context of the entirity of a station's listenership. So, it's not inconceivable that he may, indeed, have it up on a machine in house. I had it on a big screen last night in Houston at a hotel where we were going to do a research project later in the day; I used it as an example of the "reliabilty" of a single listener's opinion vs. that of the universe of listeners. And it's likely that some of his associates are participating. Nearly my entire research staff was there. It was very educational in that it showed that single opinions can cover a very great range from one side of an issue to another, but the vast majority, around 90%, are concentrated in a very narrow and relatively similar range. Knowing how to distinguish the fringe from the core is one of the essential skills of a radio programmer or manager. Separating wheat from the chaff is an old concept, often forgotten. The internet is a great leveler, but does not make a distinction between the well reasoned and documented and the blindly opinionated. Hey, Edweenie, you're so full of ca-ca it defies belief. dxAce Michigan USA |
David Eduardo - A Recent Conversation
On Feb 21, 2:22 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
Separating wheat from the chaff is an old concept, often forgotten. The internet is a great leveler, but does not make a distinction between the well reasoned and documented and the blindly opinionated. And the internet is an ideal environment for people, like you, who happen to be pathological liars. President of Programming...my ass! |
David Eduardo - A Recent Conversation
Steve wrote: On Feb 21, 2:22 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: Separating wheat from the chaff is an old concept, often forgotten. The internet is a great leveler, but does not make a distinction between the well reasoned and documented and the blindly opinionated. And the internet is an ideal environment for people, like you, who happen to be pathological liars. President of Programming...my ass! Oh come on, give the boy a break! He has/had great Bozo hair: http://www.davidgleason.com/1998_Radio_Ink.htm |
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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...=amd-google-20 CL wrote in message ... Mee see see pee pee eye doesn't have any Radio stations that play good old Polka Music.But,howsomever,I remember back in the 1940's/1950's there was at least one Radio station that used to play a Polka Music song or tree once in a while.I love that old Polka Music.What's I gotta do? Look up some Polka Music on the enterhernet and then step over to the Be Bop music store across Highway 80 from me and get that dudette woman over there to order some Polka Music on CDs for me? cuhulin |
David Eduardo - A Recent Conversation
On Feb 21, 5:22�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in ... * *Actually, when I was at CBS, the GM had the AOL Radio boards up on a machine in the conference room, so staff could receive and respond to questions from listeners in a public forum. He cruised all the radio boards and some newsgroups every day, as a manner of getting street level input. This went on for more than a year. Not only is the contnt on boards interesting, it comes at times from so far in left field that it forces a person actually in radio to verify their thinking. I have actually changed my perspectives on a number of areas, based on having "we have always done it this way" theories questioned or even destroyed by active listeners on boards. Not only is that often the case, but it forces one to research data to rebut an argument. At no time have I become so aware of the problems facing AM as afer looking at a dozen or so major markets in Arbitron over the last decade to document a point. Normally, I would have simply had an "impression" based on experience, but not real hard facts... which were far worse than my impression. * *It was a good idea in theory but wasn't very effective as a tool because the boards quickly became overrun by sockpuppets for a handful of gripers, a few of whom were staff at the competition. *And there was a lot of the usual flame war bickering. Flame wars? Here? * *But what came out of the experiment, especially early on, was a clear object lesson to the staff at how little the most vocal listeners really knew or understood how the radio business worked. And how little they cared about knowing. And that teaches everyone that the random request or comment or complaint has to be taken in the context of the entirity of a station's listenership. * *So, it's not inconceivable that he may, indeed, have it up on a machine in house. I had it on a big screen last night in Houston at a hotel where we were going to do a research project later in the day; I used it as an example of the "reliabilty" of a single listener's opinion vs. that of the universe of listeners. * *And it's likely that some of his associates are participating. Nearly my entire research staff was there. It was very educational in that it showed that single opinions can cover a very great range from one side of an issue to another, but the vast majority, around 90%, are concentrated in a very narrow and relatively similar range. Knowing how to distinguish the fringe from the core is one of the essential skills of a radio programmer or manager. Separating wheat from the chaff is an old concept, often forgotten. The internet is a great leveler, but does not make a distinction between the well reasoned and documented and the blindly opinionated. Looks like you need to change your perspective, on how HD Radio is being marketed to the public, because this baby is dead - too-little- too-late. |
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