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dxAce February 21st 07 06:34 PM

David Eduardo - A Recent Conversation
 


D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

And you may be right. But, I have seen it done. And I've seen it done
at at least one station in Chicago.

Don't forget another participant in this newsgroup who used the flame
wars he started on RRS for his classroom. As well, he put them up in
edited form on an anti-nazi website, one that was quoted in a Peter
Jennings story on ABC News.
I must have somehow missed that one, or forgotten about it. What was it about?
Actually, you were instrumental in running that one off. A certain
"professor" who took it upon himself to create chaos where there was none.


Ahhh... It's all coming back to me now!


Yes.....good times.


Indeed!



[email protected] February 21st 07 07:02 PM

David Eduardo - A Recent Conversation
 
Mee see see pee pee eye doesn't have any Radio stations that play good
old Polka Music.But,howsomever,I remember back in the 1940's/1950's
there was at least one Radio station that used to play a Polka Music
song or tree once in a while.I love that old Polka Music.What's I gotta
do? Look up some Polka Music on the enterhernet and then step over to
the Be Bop music store across Highway 80 from me and get that dudette
woman over there to order some Polka Music on CDs for me?
cuhulin



[email protected] February 21st 07 07:07 PM

David Eduardo - A Recent Conversation
 
It was me that got niehaus (in North Carolina) to put the Dixie
song/music in their website.
cuhulin


Steve February 21st 07 07:21 PM

David Eduardo - A Recent Conversation
 
On Feb 21, 1:34 pm, dxAce wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
dxAce wrote:


D Peter Maus wrote:


dxAce wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:


And you may be right. But, I have seen it done. And I've seen it done
at at least one station in Chicago.


Don't forget another participant in this newsgroup who used the flame
wars he started on RRS for his classroom. As well, he put them up in
edited form on an anti-nazi website, one that was quoted in a Peter
Jennings story on ABC News.
I must have somehow missed that one, or forgotten about it. What was it about?
Actually, you were instrumental in running that one off. A certain
"professor" who took it upon himself to create chaos where there was none.


Ahhh... It's all coming back to me now!


Yes.....good times.


Indeed!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I wish I'd been in the group at that time. I think that was just a tad
before I started reading RRS. I always miss out!


David Eduardo February 21st 07 07:22 PM

David Eduardo - A Recent Conversation
 

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Actually, when I was at CBS, the GM had the AOL Radio boards up on a
machine in the conference room, so staff could receive and respond to
questions from listeners in a public forum. He cruised all the radio
boards and some newsgroups every day, as a manner of getting street level
input. This went on for more than a year.


Not only is the contnt on boards interesting, it comes at times from so far
in left field that it forces a person actually in radio to verify their
thinking. I have actually changed my perspectives on a number of areas,
based on having "we have always done it this way" theories questioned or
even destroyed by active listeners on boards.

Not only is that often the case, but it forces one to research data to rebut
an argument. At no time have I become so aware of the problems facing AM as
afer looking at a dozen or so major markets in Arbitron over the last decade
to document a point. Normally, I would have simply had an "impression"
based on experience, but not real hard facts... which were far worse than my
impression.

It was a good idea in theory but wasn't very effective as a tool
because the boards quickly became overrun by sockpuppets for a handful of
gripers, a few of whom were staff at the competition. And there was a lot
of the usual flame war bickering.


Flame wars? Here?

But what came out of the experiment, especially early on, was a clear
object lesson to the staff at how little the most vocal listeners really
knew or understood how the radio business worked. And how little they
cared about knowing.


And that teaches everyone that the random request or comment or complaint
has to be taken in the context of the entirity of a station's listenership.

So, it's not inconceivable that he may, indeed, have it up on a machine
in house.


I had it on a big screen last night in Houston at a hotel where we were
going to do a research project later in the day; I used it as an example of
the "reliabilty" of a single listener's opinion vs. that of the universe of
listeners.

And it's likely that some of his associates are participating.


Nearly my entire research staff was there. It was very educational in that
it showed that single opinions can cover a very great range from one side of
an issue to another, but the vast majority, around 90%, are concentrated in
a very narrow and relatively similar range. Knowing how to distinguish the
fringe from the core is one of the essential skills of a radio programmer or
manager.

Separating wheat from the chaff is an old concept, often forgotten. The
internet is a great leveler, but does not make a distinction between the
well reasoned and documented and the blindly opinionated.



dxAce February 21st 07 07:29 PM

David Eduardo - A Recent Conversation
 


David Frackelton Gleason, who, posing as 'Eduardo' finds it so easy to lie at
the drop of a sombrero or a young boys pantalunes, wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


Actually, when I was at CBS, the GM had the AOL Radio boards up on a
machine in the conference room, so staff could receive and respond to
questions from listeners in a public forum. He cruised all the radio
boards and some newsgroups every day, as a manner of getting street level
input. This went on for more than a year.


Not only is the contnt on boards interesting, it comes at times from so far
in left field that it forces a person actually in radio to verify their
thinking. I have actually changed my perspectives on a number of areas,
based on having "we have always done it this way" theories questioned or
even destroyed by active listeners on boards.

Not only is that often the case, but it forces one to research data to rebut
an argument. At no time have I become so aware of the problems facing AM as
afer looking at a dozen or so major markets in Arbitron over the last decade
to document a point. Normally, I would have simply had an "impression"
based on experience, but not real hard facts... which were far worse than my
impression.

It was a good idea in theory but wasn't very effective as a tool
because the boards quickly became overrun by sockpuppets for a handful of
gripers, a few of whom were staff at the competition. And there was a lot
of the usual flame war bickering.


Flame wars? Here?

But what came out of the experiment, especially early on, was a clear
object lesson to the staff at how little the most vocal listeners really
knew or understood how the radio business worked. And how little they
cared about knowing.


And that teaches everyone that the random request or comment or complaint
has to be taken in the context of the entirity of a station's listenership.

So, it's not inconceivable that he may, indeed, have it up on a machine
in house.


I had it on a big screen last night in Houston at a hotel where we were
going to do a research project later in the day; I used it as an example of
the "reliabilty" of a single listener's opinion vs. that of the universe of
listeners.

And it's likely that some of his associates are participating.


Nearly my entire research staff was there. It was very educational in that
it showed that single opinions can cover a very great range from one side of
an issue to another, but the vast majority, around 90%, are concentrated in
a very narrow and relatively similar range. Knowing how to distinguish the
fringe from the core is one of the essential skills of a radio programmer or
manager.

Separating wheat from the chaff is an old concept, often forgotten. The
internet is a great leveler, but does not make a distinction between the
well reasoned and documented and the blindly opinionated.


Hey, Edweenie, you're so full of ca-ca it defies belief.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Steve February 21st 07 07:34 PM

David Eduardo - A Recent Conversation
 
On Feb 21, 2:22 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Separating wheat from the chaff is an old concept, often forgotten. The
internet is a great leveler, but does not make a distinction between the
well reasoned and documented and the blindly opinionated.


And the internet is an ideal environment for people, like you, who
happen to be pathological liars.

President of Programming...my ass!


dxAce February 21st 07 07:38 PM

David Eduardo - A Recent Conversation
 


Steve wrote:

On Feb 21, 2:22 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Separating wheat from the chaff is an old concept, often forgotten. The
internet is a great leveler, but does not make a distinction between the
well reasoned and documented and the blindly opinionated.


And the internet is an ideal environment for people, like you, who
happen to be pathological liars.

President of Programming...my ass!


Oh come on, give the boy a break! He has/had great Bozo hair:

http://www.davidgleason.com/1998_Radio_Ink.htm



Caveat Lector February 21st 07 08:25 PM

For Cuhulin - Polkas
 
16 Most Requested Polkas
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...=amd-google-20

CL


wrote in message
...
Mee see see pee pee eye doesn't have any Radio stations that play good
old Polka Music.But,howsomever,I remember back in the 1940's/1950's
there was at least one Radio station that used to play a Polka Music
song or tree once in a while.I love that old Polka Music.What's I gotta
do? Look up some Polka Music on the enterhernet and then step over to
the Be Bop music store across Highway 80 from me and get that dudette
woman over there to order some Polka Music on CDs for me?
cuhulin





[email protected] February 21st 07 10:37 PM

David Eduardo - A Recent Conversation
 
On Feb 21, 5:22�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in ...



* *Actually, when I was at CBS, the GM had the AOL Radio boards up on a
machine in the conference room, so staff could receive and respond to
questions from listeners in a public forum. He cruised all the radio
boards and some newsgroups every day, as a manner of getting street level
input. This went on for more than a year.


Not only is the contnt on boards interesting, it comes at times from so far
in left field that it forces a person actually in radio to verify their
thinking. I have actually changed my perspectives on a number of areas,
based on having "we have always done it this way" theories questioned or
even destroyed by active listeners on boards.

Not only is that often the case, but it forces one to research data to rebut
an argument. At no time have I become so aware of the problems facing AM as
afer looking at a dozen or so major markets in Arbitron over the last decade
to document a point. Normally, I would have simply had an "impression"
based on experience, but not real hard facts... which were far worse than my
impression.



* *It was a good idea in theory but wasn't very effective as a tool
because the boards quickly became overrun by sockpuppets for a handful of
gripers, a few of whom were staff at the competition. *And there was a lot
of the usual flame war bickering.


Flame wars? Here?



* *But what came out of the experiment, especially early on, was a clear
object lesson to the staff at how little the most vocal listeners really
knew or understood how the radio business worked. And how little they
cared about knowing.


And that teaches everyone that the random request or comment or complaint
has to be taken in the context of the entirity of a station's listenership.



* *So, it's not inconceivable that he may, indeed, have it up on a machine
in house.


I had it on a big screen last night in Houston at a hotel where we were
going to do a research project later in the day; I used it as an example of
the "reliabilty" of a single listener's opinion vs. that of the universe of
listeners.



* *And it's likely that some of his associates are participating.


Nearly my entire research staff was there. It was very educational in that
it showed that single opinions can cover a very great range from one side of
an issue to another, but the vast majority, around 90%, are concentrated in
a very narrow and relatively similar range. Knowing how to distinguish the
fringe from the core is one of the essential skills of a radio programmer or
manager.

Separating wheat from the chaff is an old concept, often forgotten. The
internet is a great leveler, but does not make a distinction between the
well reasoned and documented and the blindly opinionated.



Looks like you need to change your perspective, on how HD Radio is
being marketed to the public, because this baby is dead - too-little-
too-late.



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