On Feb 23, 6:31�pm, "Guerite�" wrote:
This point will be moot in about 20 years when real-time hand-held
electronic audio language translators will be available.

"David Eduardo" wrote in message

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On Feb 22, 11:15 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

1 - SAP in Spanish offers a signficant new audience for English
langauge TV.

2 - SAP in English offers little or no benfit to Spanish TV's.
SAP is not a requirement, so the incentive is purely economic:
more salable viewership.
Since there is no return on investment for English SAP,
no station will do it.

DE - Once again I will re-post myself :

-R- It's not about the Money
- - - It's About Fairness and Equality between All Peoples
Asian-Americans; Hispanic-Americans; African-Americans
and yes even European-Americans.

There is no interest, either, in doing SAP to English of the Asian
channels
in LA and San Francisco. This is not unfair, just realistic.

In the 'spirit' of true Bilingualism - It Ought To Be A Law !

A law like that would violate freedom of speech, by saying that if you
want
to use any language other than English you have to incur additional and
considerable expense (Simultanteous translaters run as much as $500 an
hour,
you know) while English stations do npot have to do this. Clear violation
and an impediment to expression.

If 5%-or-more of the 'potential' TV and Radio Listeners in a
Broadcast Area are English Speakers then By-Law and the
SAP on all Non-English Language TV and Radio Stations
"MUSH" Broadcast in English the Programming Content.

Nearly nobody is going to listen. Imagine trying to do SAP on a soap opera
to english... the translation and dubbing of an English aoudio track would
cost around $10,000 to $20,000 an hour unless you did all the dialogue in
one voice.

And then the ads... most creative does not translate at all, and the
advertisers woulod be furious.

As I said, even newscasts would be $500 to $1000 an hour for one
simultaneous translator.

And nobody would listen.

Total weekly cost: about $700,000 per channel.

A FCC Broadcast License 'implies' Public Service and
English SAP Broadcasting should be a Mandated Public
Service of every Broadcaster broadcasting in any language
other-than English. *The Rights of English-Only-Speakers
MUST BE PROTECTED where They Are A Minority.
Once Again - It's About Fairness and Equality between
All Peoples : Asian-Americans; Hispanic-Americans;
African-Americans and yes even European-Americans.
-Equal Media Access- It's not about the Money - It's about
Basic Human Rights For All -including- English-Only-Speakers.

How does a classic rock staiton serve me? I hate classic rock, so it does
not serve me. But it does serve lovers of that kind of music. Same with
Spanish langauge stations... stations were never intended to serve
everyone,
and the licensee has broad discretion in which segment of the audience
they
want to serve, and can serve that niche exclusively.

PLUS - Just thing of all the New Jobs it would create
for Bilingual Peoples especially for those 'whos'
Primary Language is English.

It would bankrupt stations, and provide no useful service.

It also violates the US Constitution quite royally.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"In-Stat: Digital Radio Set to Take Off"

"In 2006, 73 percent of respondents to an In-Stat U.S. consumer survey
were aware of HD Radio on some level."

http://beradio.com/eyeoniboc/instat-digital-radio-set/

"Sirius, XM, and HD: Consumer interest reality check" (Alexaholic)

"While interest in satellite radio is diminishing, interest in HD
shows no signs of a pulse."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/02/sirius_....html#comments

This just confirms, the lack of interest for HD Radio, on Google
Trends:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd... =all&date=all

For now, HD Radio/IBOC is dead.

On Feb 22, 3:40 am, "RHF" wrote:
R A N T

Why the H*ll Don't the Spanish Language Radio and TV Stations
have English on the SAP Channel ?

i want to know ~ RHF
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Since english language programming dominates the broadcast bands,
please tell us specifically which programming you would like carried
as a subcarrier that is not carried elsewhere. Maybe SSL classes?

On Feb 22, 2:40 am, "RHF" wrote:
R A N T

Why the H*ll Don't the Spanish Language Radio and TV Stations
have English on the SAP Channel ?

i want to know ~ RHF

Same reason other ethnic minorities can make fun of white people on TV
where as if we do we're in jail.

Why would anyone want to watch that second rate crap anyway? Except
for the titty shows, they're good.

On Feb 22, 1:15 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Gueriteº" wrote in message

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They don't want you gringos to know that they are talking about you.

No, that is not it. SAP in Spanish offers a signficant new audience for
English langauge TV. SAP in English offers little or no benfit to Spanish
TV's. SAP is not a requirement, so the incentive is purely economic: more
salable viewership. Since there is no return on investment for English SAP,
no station will do it.



"RHF" wrote in message
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R A N T

Why the H*ll Don't the Spanish Language Radio and TV Stations
have English on the SAP Channel ?

i want to know ~ RHF
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Well, there's your Latin ego for you.

On Feb 22, 1:36 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in message

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On Feb 22, 12:40 am, "RHF" wrote:
R A N T

Why the H*ll Don't the Spanish Language Radio and TV Stations
have English on the SAP Channel ?

i want to know ~ RHF

I have to confess - I am baffled at why you'd want to see it.

I speak a little Spanish, and I can tell you that, between the bodice-
rippers and inane comedy shows and etc., there is little of value
there (at least to this gringo).

That is precisely why SAP would have no benefit... totally different
cultural values.


Is it a crime that the rest of the world just wanted to know what your
people were saying? It's like your saying don't worry about it, it's
none of your business. Then again who cares. LOL

On Feb 23, 3:45 pm, "Roadie" wrote:
On Feb 22, 3:40 am, "RHF" wrote:

R A N T

Why the H*ll Don't the Spanish Language Radio and TV Stations
have English on the SAP Channel ?

i want to know ~ RHF
.
.
. .

Since english language programming dominates the broadcast bands,
please tell us specifically which programming you would like carried
as a subcarrier that is not carried elsewhere. Maybe SSL classes?

El Caminolito,

1 - While English Language Programming does 'dominate'
TV in many areas : In some areas Spanish Language
Programming is the 'most-watched'. It is in these areas
that Spanish Language Broadcaster should use the SAP
Channel and provide an English Language simulcast of
the programming.

2 - Every Spanish Language Program that is Broadcasted
should be on the SAp in English. But the process could
be 'Phased-in-Over-Time" :
First - The Prime-Time Family Hours 7-10 PM
- - - Especially the Telenovelas {Novelas}
NOVELAS = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telenovela
WORLD TV = http://www.telenovelas.gr/worldtv/english.htm
Example the Spanish Language "Betty La Fea" has
become the English Language "Ugly Betty"
Second - All the News and Information Shows
Third - All Children's Programming
Fourth - All Daytime Programming : Talk Shows,
Game Shows, ETC.
Fifth - All Movies especially the American Movies which
were originally in English an already have an English
Language Sound Track. (What Could Be Easier !)

3 - "SSL" - ¡ Claro Sí !
SSL = Spanish as a Second Language (SSL) Classes

It's about Greater Programming Diversity {Leading to
Cultural Understanding} and Equal Access to all forms
of Broadcast Media for English-Only-Speakers in Areas
where they are in-fact a Minority to assure that they
are not being marginalized because of their Limitations
from 'only' being able to Speak a single Language.
{Human Rights For All - Including English-Only-Speakers}

It's About Fairness and Equality For All Peoples . . .

¡ Entiendes Mendez ! ¿O Te Explico Federico? .

i know - it's better that i should learn spanish ~ El RHF Olé !
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It's about Greater Programming Diversity {Leading to
Cultural Understanding} and Equal Access to all forms
of Broadcast Media for English-Only-Speakers in Areas
where they are in-fact a Minority to assure that they
are not being marginalized because of their Limitations
from 'only' being able to Speak a single Language.
{Human Rights For All - Including English-Only-Speakers}

It's About Fairness and Equality For All Peoples

You don't even know the meaning of fairness and equality, but this is
the way communism started in Cuba, and your spouting it. Thanks
Jimmy Carter

On Feb 24, 5:14 am, "Radiola" wrote:
It's about Greater Programming Diversity {Leading to
Cultural Understanding} and Equal Access to all forms
of Broadcast Media for English-Only-Speakers in Areas
where they are in-fact a Minority to assure that they
are not being marginalized because of their Limitations
from 'only' being able to Speak a single Language.
{Human Rights For All - Including English-Only-Speakers}

It's About Fairness and Equality For All Peoples

You don't even know the meaning of fairness and equality, but this is
the way communism started in Cuba, and your spouting it. Thanks
Jimmy Carter

Radiola,

In the Interest of Fairness and Equality as one
English Language Speaker {Writer} to another.
- - - Gracias por su Contestación.

Speaking of Cuba {Fidelimisimo We Love You}
Close your Eyes and Click your Heels together
three time while saying "Libertad"
-and- You just may end up with Wet Feet on a
Beach in Miami Florida - free-at-last, Free-At-Last.
Thank God I Am FREE-AT-LAST !
{ With Not Thanks to El Jefe del Mundo Jimmy Carter }


write-on, Write-On. WRITE-ON ! ~ El RHF Olé !
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AGENDA

On the Government's dole no girlfriend, no
wife, no kids, just a mouth full of profanity from America Online near
Manassas, VA wrote in message
oups.com

"I have been researching/posting on this subject for a year, and have a
zillion links set up, and know exactly how and where to find information, to
counter little punks like you and David Edurado"

-- amazing how much time you have to waste in your small adolescent mind --

"A recent Arbitron/Edison Media Research study found that more than
one-third of Americans are interested in HD Radio, but nearly half said
they
would only purchase an HD Radio if it cost $100 or less."

http://www.hdradio.com

RW: What are your thoughts about whether or how AM should go digital at
night?

Mathews: I think there are problematic issues. The long and short of it is
a
lot of AM stations, just like FMs, have been getting reception in areas
where they aren't really technically protected. . But, at some point .
they'
re going to have to give up what they've been sort of getting for free all
this time anyway, that sort of non-protected listening area. .

[TRANLATION (in the voice of Don La Fontaine): AM IBOC DXing IS FOR REAL!]

RW: Because AM has to go digital at night. .

Mathews: It's one of those things where everybody is saying, "It can't
happen."
And I've said this from the beginning on HD, none of this is a question of
"If," it's a question of "When."

RW: Do your listeners notice when you go digital?

Mathews: They have no concept unless they have an HD Radio.

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0049/t.352.html

Just as " has no concept.

On Feb 23, 11:41 pm, "RHF" wrote:
On Feb 23, 3:45 pm, "Roadie" wrote:

On Feb 22, 3:40 am, "RHF" wrote:

R A N T

Why the H*ll Don't the Spanish Language Radio and TV Stations
have English on the SAP Channel ?

i want to know ~ RHF
.
.
. .

Since english language programming dominates the broadcast bands,
please tell us specifically which programming you would like carried
as a subcarrier that is not carried elsewhere. Maybe SSL classes?

El Caminolito,

1 - While English Language Programming does 'dominate'
TV in many areas : In some areas Spanish Language
Programming is the 'most-watched'. It is in these areas
that Spanish Language Broadcaster should use the SAP
Channel and provide an English Language simulcast of
the programming.

There is no demonstrable demand for english language versions of
hispanic, chinese and russian programming. None. Most cable systems
have on their basic service over 100 channels of english language
programming avaiable now and over 500 channels for those with a lot of
time on their hands. Why spend the money on such programming where
there is no demand.




2 - Every Spanish Language Program that is Broadcasted
should be on the SAp in English. But the process could
be 'Phased-in-Over-Time" :
First - The Prime-Time Family Hours 7-10 PM
- - - Especially the Telenovelas {Novelas}
NOVELAS =http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telenovela
WORLD TV =http://www.telenovelas.gr/worldtv/english.htm
Example the Spanish Language "Betty La Fea" has
become the English Language "Ugly Betty"
Second - All the News and Information Shows
Third - All Children's Programming
Fourth - All Daytime Programming : Talk Shows,
Game Shows, ETC.
Fifth - All Movies especially the American Movies which
were originally in English an already have an English
Language Sound Track. (What Could Be Easier !)

3 - "SSL" - ¡ Claro Sí !
SSL = Spanish as a Second Language (SSL) Classes

It's about Greater Programming Diversity {Leading to
Cultural Understanding} and Equal Access to all forms
of Broadcast Media for English-Only-Speakers in Areas
where they are in-fact a Minority to assure that they
are not being marginalized because of their Limitations
from 'only' being able to Speak a single Language.
{Human Rights For All - Including English-Only-Speakers}

It's About Fairness and Equality For All Peoples . . .

¡ Entiendes Mendez ! ¿O Te Explico Federico? .

i know - it's better that i should learn spanish ~ El RHF Olé !
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