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Why the H*ll Don't the Spanish Language Radio and TV Stations
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They don't want you gringos to know that they are talking about you.


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On Feb 22, 10:13 am, "Gueriteº" wrote:
They don't want you gringos to know that they are talking about you.

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Keeping Up Apperances.I like the one where Mrs.Bucket and Richard were
out riding around in their car and she saw a Horse out in a field and
she so adroitly averted her eyes.
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Keeping Up Apperances.I like the one where Mrs.Bucket and Richard were
out riding around in their car and she saw a Horse out in a field and
she so adroitly averted her eyes.
cuhulin


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They don't want you gringos to know that they are talking about you.


No, that is not it. SAP in Spanish offers a signficant new audience for
English langauge TV. SAP in English offers little or no benfit to Spanish
TV's. SAP is not a requirement, so the incentive is purely economic: more
salable viewership. Since there is no return on investment for English SAP,
no station will do it.


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On Feb 22, 11:15 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Gueriteº" wrote in message

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They don't want you gringos to know that they are talking about you.


No, that is not it.


1 - SAP in Spanish offers a signficant new audience for English
langauge TV.

2 - SAP in English offers little or no benfit to Spanish TV's.
SAP is not a requirement, so the incentive is purely economic:
more salable viewership.
Since there is no return on investment for English SAP,
no station will do it.

DE - Once again I will re-post myself :

-R- It's not about the Money
- - - It's About Fairness and Equality between All Peoples
Asian-Americans; Hispanic-Americans; African-Americans
and yes even European-Americans.

In the 'spirit' of true Bilingualism - It Ought To Be A Law !

If 5%-or-more of the 'potential' TV and Radio Listeners in a
Broadcast Area are English Speakers then By-Law and the
SAP on all Non-English Language TV and Radio Stations
"MUSH" Broadcast in English the Programming Content.
- - - Basically the same Requirement for Voting and Public
Documents with all "Minority Groups" and Non-Spanish
Speaking Americans are rapidly become the Second Largest
Minority Group behind Hispanics in Hispanic Dominated
Urban and Sub-Urban Areas. It is "The Duty" of Public
Broadcasters to SERVE "Minority Communities" and now
in many cases the Spanish Language "Only" Media is
neglecting the Non-Spanish-Speaking Americans. The FCC
should set in and 'regulate' these Broadcasters who as you
so aptly point out are only concerned about the Money.
A FCC Broadcast License 'implies' Public Service and
English SAP Broadcasting should be a Mandated Public
Service of every Broadcaster broadcasting in any language
other-than English. The Rights of English-Only-Speakers
MUST BE PROTECTED where They Are A Minority.
Once Again - It's About Fairness and Equality between
All Peoples : Asian-Americans; Hispanic-Americans;
African-Americans and yes even European-Americans.
-Equal Media Access- It's not about the Money - It's about
Basic Human Rights For All -including- English-Only-Speakers.

PLUS - Just thing of all the New Jobs it would create
for Bilingual Peoples especially for those 'whos'
Primary Language is English.
- - - Affirmative Action for English-Only-Speakers
When Do We Want It - now, Now. NOW !
Where Do We Want It - On the SAP Channel of All
Spanish Only TV Stations do it now, Do It Now. DO IT NOW !

Hey DE - You could be the new Czar of a National
Spanish-to-English SAP Initative with mucho Federal Funding.
Funded by a 1% Nation-Wide Radio and TV Marketing Sales
Tax paid by Advertisers to bring English into Every Home.

La Igualdad es Una Calle de Dos Maneras
{ In my best Babel Fish Translation }
Meaning : Equality IS a Two Way Street.

si, Si. SI ! sé, Sé. SE ! - once again . . .
it's better that i should learn spanish ~ El RHF Olé !
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My very first night at Tan Son Nhut.Next morning,Helicopters to Can
Tho.(go look it up) I was looking around,by one of those old dried out
not working street fountains in the middle of a street in Can Tho.A
Vietnamese guy about sixteen or seventeen years old (I was twenty two
years old at the time) walked over from somewhere.I knew not his
language and he knew not mine.He knew enough words of the English
language that we could converse,Intelligently.
cuhulin

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"RHF" wrote in message
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On Feb 22, 11:15 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:


1 - SAP in Spanish offers a signficant new audience for English
langauge TV.


2 - SAP in English offers little or no benfit to Spanish TV's.
SAP is not a requirement, so the incentive is purely economic:
more salable viewership.
Since there is no return on investment for English SAP,
no station will do it.


DE - Once again I will re-post myself :

-R- It's not about the Money
- - - It's About Fairness and Equality between All Peoples
Asian-Americans; Hispanic-Americans; African-Americans
and yes even European-Americans.


There is no interest, either, in doing SAP to English of the Asian channels
in LA and San Francisco. This is not unfair, just realistic.

In the 'spirit' of true Bilingualism - It Ought To Be A Law !


A law like that would violate freedom of speech, by saying that if you want
to use any language other than English you have to incur additional and
considerable expense (Simultanteous translaters run as much as $500 an hour,
you know) while English stations do npot have to do this. Clear violation
and an impediment to expression.

If 5%-or-more of the 'potential' TV and Radio Listeners in a
Broadcast Area are English Speakers then By-Law and the
SAP on all Non-English Language TV and Radio Stations
"MUSH" Broadcast in English the Programming Content.


Nearly nobody is going to listen. Imagine trying to do SAP on a soap opera
to english... the translation and dubbing of an English aoudio track would
cost around $10,000 to $20,000 an hour unless you did all the dialogue in
one voice.

And then the ads... most creative does not translate at all, and the
advertisers woulod be furious.

As I said, even newscasts would be $500 to $1000 an hour for one
simultaneous translator.

And nobody would listen.

Total weekly cost: about $700,000 per channel.

A FCC Broadcast License 'implies' Public Service and
English SAP Broadcasting should be a Mandated Public
Service of every Broadcaster broadcasting in any language
other-than English. The Rights of English-Only-Speakers
MUST BE PROTECTED where They Are A Minority.
Once Again - It's About Fairness and Equality between
All Peoples : Asian-Americans; Hispanic-Americans;
African-Americans and yes even European-Americans.
-Equal Media Access- It's not about the Money - It's about
Basic Human Rights For All -including- English-Only-Speakers.


How does a classic rock staiton serve me? I hate classic rock, so it does
not serve me. But it does serve lovers of that kind of music. Same with
Spanish langauge stations... stations were never intended to serve everyone,
and the licensee has broad discretion in which segment of the audience they
want to serve, and can serve that niche exclusively.

PLUS - Just thing of all the New Jobs it would create
for Bilingual Peoples especially for those 'whos'

Primary Language is English.

It would bankrupt stations, and provide no useful service.

It also violates the US Constitution quite royally.


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This point will be moot in about 20 years when real-time hand-held
electronic audio language translators will be available.

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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On Feb 22, 11:15 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:


1 - SAP in Spanish offers a signficant new audience for English
langauge TV.


2 - SAP in English offers little or no benfit to Spanish TV's.
SAP is not a requirement, so the incentive is purely economic:
more salable viewership.
Since there is no return on investment for English SAP,
no station will do it.


DE - Once again I will re-post myself :

-R- It's not about the Money
- - - It's About Fairness and Equality between All Peoples
Asian-Americans; Hispanic-Americans; African-Americans
and yes even European-Americans.


There is no interest, either, in doing SAP to English of the Asian

channels
in LA and San Francisco. This is not unfair, just realistic.

In the 'spirit' of true Bilingualism - It Ought To Be A Law !


A law like that would violate freedom of speech, by saying that if you

want
to use any language other than English you have to incur additional and
considerable expense (Simultanteous translaters run as much as $500 an

hour,
you know) while English stations do npot have to do this. Clear violation
and an impediment to expression.

If 5%-or-more of the 'potential' TV and Radio Listeners in a
Broadcast Area are English Speakers then By-Law and the
SAP on all Non-English Language TV and Radio Stations
"MUSH" Broadcast in English the Programming Content.


Nearly nobody is going to listen. Imagine trying to do SAP on a soap opera
to english... the translation and dubbing of an English aoudio track would
cost around $10,000 to $20,000 an hour unless you did all the dialogue in
one voice.

And then the ads... most creative does not translate at all, and the
advertisers woulod be furious.

As I said, even newscasts would be $500 to $1000 an hour for one
simultaneous translator.

And nobody would listen.

Total weekly cost: about $700,000 per channel.

A FCC Broadcast License 'implies' Public Service and
English SAP Broadcasting should be a Mandated Public
Service of every Broadcaster broadcasting in any language
other-than English. The Rights of English-Only-Speakers
MUST BE PROTECTED where They Are A Minority.
Once Again - It's About Fairness and Equality between
All Peoples : Asian-Americans; Hispanic-Americans;
African-Americans and yes even European-Americans.
-Equal Media Access- It's not about the Money - It's about
Basic Human Rights For All -including- English-Only-Speakers.


How does a classic rock staiton serve me? I hate classic rock, so it does
not serve me. But it does serve lovers of that kind of music. Same with
Spanish langauge stations... stations were never intended to serve

everyone,
and the licensee has broad discretion in which segment of the audience

they
want to serve, and can serve that niche exclusively.

PLUS - Just thing of all the New Jobs it would create
for Bilingual Peoples especially for those 'whos'

Primary Language is English.

It would bankrupt stations, and provide no useful service.

It also violates the US Constitution quite royally.






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