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Default QUESTION - Why the H*ll Don't the Spanish Language Radio and TV Stations have English on the SAP Channel ?

This point will be moot in about 20 years when real-time hand-held
electronic audio language translators will be available.

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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"RHF" wrote in message
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On Feb 22, 11:15 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:


1 - SAP in Spanish offers a signficant new audience for English
langauge TV.


2 - SAP in English offers little or no benfit to Spanish TV's.
SAP is not a requirement, so the incentive is purely economic:
more salable viewership.
Since there is no return on investment for English SAP,
no station will do it.


DE - Once again I will re-post myself :

-R- It's not about the Money
- - - It's About Fairness and Equality between All Peoples
Asian-Americans; Hispanic-Americans; African-Americans
and yes even European-Americans.


There is no interest, either, in doing SAP to English of the Asian

channels
in LA and San Francisco. This is not unfair, just realistic.

In the 'spirit' of true Bilingualism - It Ought To Be A Law !


A law like that would violate freedom of speech, by saying that if you

want
to use any language other than English you have to incur additional and
considerable expense (Simultanteous translaters run as much as $500 an

hour,
you know) while English stations do npot have to do this. Clear violation
and an impediment to expression.

If 5%-or-more of the 'potential' TV and Radio Listeners in a
Broadcast Area are English Speakers then By-Law and the
SAP on all Non-English Language TV and Radio Stations
"MUSH" Broadcast in English the Programming Content.


Nearly nobody is going to listen. Imagine trying to do SAP on a soap opera
to english... the translation and dubbing of an English aoudio track would
cost around $10,000 to $20,000 an hour unless you did all the dialogue in
one voice.

And then the ads... most creative does not translate at all, and the
advertisers woulod be furious.

As I said, even newscasts would be $500 to $1000 an hour for one
simultaneous translator.

And nobody would listen.

Total weekly cost: about $700,000 per channel.

A FCC Broadcast License 'implies' Public Service and
English SAP Broadcasting should be a Mandated Public
Service of every Broadcaster broadcasting in any language
other-than English. The Rights of English-Only-Speakers
MUST BE PROTECTED where They Are A Minority.
Once Again - It's About Fairness and Equality between
All Peoples : Asian-Americans; Hispanic-Americans;
African-Americans and yes even European-Americans.
-Equal Media Access- It's not about the Money - It's about
Basic Human Rights For All -including- English-Only-Speakers.


How does a classic rock staiton serve me? I hate classic rock, so it does
not serve me. But it does serve lovers of that kind of music. Same with
Spanish langauge stations... stations were never intended to serve

everyone,
and the licensee has broad discretion in which segment of the audience

they
want to serve, and can serve that niche exclusively.

PLUS - Just thing of all the New Jobs it would create
for Bilingual Peoples especially for those 'whos'

Primary Language is English.

It would bankrupt stations, and provide no useful service.

It also violates the US Constitution quite royally.




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Default QUESTION - Why the H*ll Don't the Spanish Language Radio andTV...

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Default QUESTION - Why the H*ll Don't the Spanish Language Radio and TV Stations have English on the SAP Channel ?

On Feb 23, 6:31�pm, "Guerite�" wrote:
This point will be moot in about 20 years when real-time hand-held
electronic audio language translators will be available.

"David Eduardo" wrote in message

...





"RHF" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 22, 11:15 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:


1 - SAP in Spanish offers a signficant new audience for English
langauge TV.


2 - SAP in English offers little or no benfit to Spanish TV's.
SAP is not a requirement, so the incentive is purely economic:
more salable viewership.
Since there is no return on investment for English SAP,
no station will do it.


DE - Once again I will re-post myself :


-R- It's not about the Money
- - - It's About Fairness and Equality between All Peoples
Asian-Americans; Hispanic-Americans; African-Americans
and yes even European-Americans.


There is no interest, either, in doing SAP to English of the Asian

channels
in LA and San Francisco. This is not unfair, just realistic.


In the 'spirit' of true Bilingualism - It Ought To Be A Law !


A law like that would violate freedom of speech, by saying that if you

want
to use any language other than English you have to incur additional and
considerable expense (Simultanteous translaters run as much as $500 an

hour,
you know) while English stations do npot have to do this. Clear violation
and an impediment to expression.


If 5%-or-more of the 'potential' TV and Radio Listeners in a
Broadcast Area are English Speakers then By-Law and the
SAP on all Non-English Language TV and Radio Stations
"MUSH" Broadcast in English the Programming Content.


Nearly nobody is going to listen. Imagine trying to do SAP on a soap opera
to english... the translation and dubbing of an English aoudio track would
cost around $10,000 to $20,000 an hour unless you did all the dialogue in
one voice.


And then the ads... most creative does not translate at all, and the
advertisers woulod be furious.


As I said, even newscasts would be $500 to $1000 an hour for one
simultaneous translator.


And nobody would listen.


Total weekly cost: about $700,000 per channel.


A FCC Broadcast License 'implies' Public Service and
English SAP Broadcasting should be a Mandated Public
Service of every Broadcaster broadcasting in any language
other-than English. *The Rights of English-Only-Speakers
MUST BE PROTECTED where They Are A Minority.
Once Again - It's About Fairness and Equality between
All Peoples : Asian-Americans; Hispanic-Americans;
African-Americans and yes even European-Americans.
-Equal Media Access- It's not about the Money - It's about
Basic Human Rights For All -including- English-Only-Speakers.


How does a classic rock staiton serve me? I hate classic rock, so it does
not serve me. But it does serve lovers of that kind of music. Same with
Spanish langauge stations... stations were never intended to serve

everyone,
and the licensee has broad discretion in which segment of the audience

they
want to serve, and can serve that niche exclusively.


PLUS - Just thing of all the New Jobs it would create
for Bilingual Peoples especially for those 'whos'

Primary Language is English.


It would bankrupt stations, and provide no useful service.


It also violates the US Constitution quite royally.- Hide quoted text -


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"In-Stat: Digital Radio Set to Take Off"

"In 2006, 73 percent of respondents to an In-Stat U.S. consumer survey
were aware of HD Radio on some level."

http://beradio.com/eyeoniboc/instat-digital-radio-set/

"Sirius, XM, and HD: Consumer interest reality check" (Alexaholic)

"While interest in satellite radio is diminishing, interest in HD
shows no signs of a pulse."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/02/sirius_....html#comments

This just confirms, the lack of interest for HD Radio, on Google
Trends:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd... =all&date=all

For now, HD Radio/IBOC is dead.

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Old February 24th 07, 03:40 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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AGENDA

On the Government's dole no girlfriend, no
wife, no kids, just a mouth full of profanity from America Online near
Manassas, VA wrote in message
oups.com

"I have been researching/posting on this subject for a year, and have a
zillion links set up, and know exactly how and where to find information, to
counter little punks like you and David Edurado"

-- amazing how much time you have to waste in your small adolescent mind --

"A recent Arbitron/Edison Media Research study found that more than
one-third of Americans are interested in HD Radio, but nearly half said

they
would only purchase an HD Radio if it cost $100 or less."

http://www.hdradio.com

RW: What are your thoughts about whether or how AM should go digital at
night?

Mathews: I think there are problematic issues. The long and short of it is

a
lot of AM stations, just like FMs, have been getting reception in areas
where they aren't really technically protected. . But, at some point .

they'
re going to have to give up what they've been sort of getting for free all
this time anyway, that sort of non-protected listening area. .

[TRANLATION (in the voice of Don La Fontaine): AM IBOC DXing IS FOR REAL!]

RW: Because AM has to go digital at night. .

Mathews: It's one of those things where everybody is saying, "It can't
happen."
And I've said this from the beginning on HD, none of this is a question of
"If," it's a question of "When."

RW: Do your listeners notice when you go digital?

Mathews: They have no concept unless they have an HD Radio.

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0049/t.352.html


Just as " has no concept.


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