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why not, Why Not. WHY NOT ! - Leave AM Radio Alone
On Mar 12, 10:17�am, "RHF" wrote:
David Eduardo, OK -if- we look at the last FCC Data for AM and FM Broadcast Radio Station Totals :http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/totals/bt061231.html#START Total AM Radio Stations = 4,754 Total FM Radio Stations = 6,266 Total FM {Educational} PBS/NPR Radio Stations = 2,817 GRAND TOTAL FOR RADIO = 13,837 Why Not - Move about a third of the smaller lower powered AM/MW Radio Stations that serve small {local} Rural Radio Markets to "HD" FM Broadcasting and clear out the AM/MW Band of a lot of the over-crowding and noise. * *This would create "Space-and-Distance" within the AM/MW Radio Band for those wider "HD" AM Radio Signals and their Adjacent Channel Digial Noise. Why Not - Expand the FM Band to cover 76 MHz to 88 MHz to create and additional 60 Channels for most of the AM/MW Radio Stations to transition to -and- Clear-Out the AM/MW Band except for about 250 National and Regional Clear Channel AM "HD" Radio Stations. Again -IMHO- You have proven the case for FM "HD" Radio as a Long Term Business Strategy -and- You have shown that AM "HD" Radio is a short term business strategy that at best is only buying time for Corporations to Divest them selves of what will become an every dimishing market while their FM Radio Business is Growing and Expanding. "HD" {Digital-IBOC} AM/MW Radio only makes long term business sense when there are fewer AM/MW Radio Stations that are in-fact Clear Channels and Powerful enough to cover Large Regions of the Country Day-and-Night. *This can only happen with a reduction in the number of AM/MW Radio Stations and Greater Separtation : Frequency and Distance between the Radio Stations : 10 kHz and 100 Miles needs to be expanded to 20-30 kHz and 250+ Miles. Why Not a 15KW, 20KW or 25KW "HD" Digital AM/MW Radio Signal which should be as effective as a 50KW Analog Radio Signal for a Radio Station that is Broadcasting on an 'closed' Clear Channel. or better yet - why not, Why Not. WHY NOT ! - - - Leave AM Radio Alone :o) ~ RHF *. *. . . On Mar 10, 9:24 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "RHF" wrote in message ups.com... Long Term IBOC FM "HD" Radio would give them : 1 - Better Overall Local Market Signal Coverage 2 - Better Sound Quality and the 'option' for a Second Audio {Data} Channel. 3 - Plus Younger Listener Demographics - - - So . . . *Why Waste the Time, Money and Technology on IBOC AM "HD" Radio which as you admit is at best a short term lossing game. There is a real simple reason and that is based on the fact that nearly all broadcast companies are publicly held. Moving a big n/t station *to FM and abandoning the AM to a lesser format would require a write-down of the book asset value of the property, which would affect earnings. Bonneville, held by the LDS, can afford to do this kind of dramatic move. Most of the rest will have to slowly move to simulcasts and gradual adjustments in the values of assets, rather than just pulling the lug; HD may offer some alternatives, such as niche music formats, too... it is a hedge play... and for a big AM, not particularly expensive. As an example, changing a 50 kw AM in LA to HD with a brand new transmitter is less than $250,000 in a market where bigger stations typically bill $40 million to $60 million a year.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Rethinking AM's Future" "Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the anecdotal evidence suggests. Ibiquity no longer reports in its public summaries whether a station is on the air." http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.557.html AM-HD is pretty much dead, anyway. The FCC has put out a podcast on RadioInk about IBOC. |
why not, Why Not. WHY NOT ! - Leave AM Radio Alone
wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 12, 10:17?am, "RHF" wrote: Why Not a 15KW, 20KW or 25KW "HD" Digital AM/MW Radio Signal which should be as effective as a 50KW Analog Radio Signal for a Radio Station that is Broadcasting on an 'closed' Clear Channel. If the current 1/100th of analog power works fine in the useful / usable signal range of the analog signal, just a slight increase will make HD more usable than the analog signal. "Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the anecdotal evidence suggests. Ibiquity no longer reports in its public summaries whether a station is on the air." And those 175 represent about 90% of the viable AMs in the top 100 markets. |
why not, Why Not. WHY NOT ! - Leave AM Radio Alone
David Frackelton Gleason, so bad as a boy, his mama sent him away to be a remittance man, wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 12, 10:17?am, "RHF" wrote: Why Not a 15KW, 20KW or 25KW "HD" Digital AM/MW Radio Signal which should be as effective as a 50KW Analog Radio Signal for a Radio Station that is Broadcasting on an 'closed' Clear Channel. If the current 1/100th of analog power works fine in the useful / usable signal range of the analog signal, just a slight increase will make HD more usable than the analog signal. More usable QRM... hmmmm Edweenie, you'd best run along, and please, take your dog and pony show with you, retard. dxAce Michigan USA |
why not, Why Not. WHY NOT ! - Leave AM Radio Alone
On Mar 12, 4:33?pm, dxAce wrote:
David Frackelton Gleason, so bad as a boy, his mama sent him away to be a remittance man, wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Mar 12, 10:17?am, "RHF" wrote: Why Not a 15KW, 20KW or 25KW "HD" Digital AM/MW Radio Signal which should be as effective as a 50KW Analog Radio Signal for a Radio Station that is Broadcasting on an 'closed' Clear Channel. If the current 1/100th of analog power works fine in the useful / usable signal range of the analog signal, just a slight increase will make HD more usable than the analog signal. More usable QRM... hmmmm Edweenie, you'd best run along, and please, take your dog and pony show with you, retard. dxAce Michigan USA DE is just trying to make all the DX'ers miserable, by dooming the SW and AM bands - but wait, IBOC to the rescue !!! |
Kim Komando - "America's Digital Goddess" - Promoting HD Radio ! ? ! ?
On Mar 12, 6:26 pm, Telamon
wrote: In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Mar 12, 10:17?am, "RHF" wrote: Why Not a 15KW, 20KW or 25KW "HD" Digital AM/MW Radio Signal which should be as effective as a 50KW Analog Radio Signal for a Radio Station that is Broadcasting on an 'closed' Clear Channel. If the current 1/100th of analog power works fine in the useful / usable signal range of the analog signal, just a slight increase will make HD more usable than the analog signal. "Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the anecdotal evidence suggests. Ibiquity no longer reports in its public summaries whether a station is on the air." And those 175 represent about 90% of the viable AMs in the top 100 markets. You can keep spouting this crap until the cows come home but nobody but you believes it. -- Telamon Ventura, California- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Telamon, Kim Komando - "America's Digital Goddess" http://www.komando.com/buyguide/index.aspx?id=3024 would seam to be promoting HD Radio . . . KOMANDO = http://www.komando.com/ But me thinks that this is focused on FM "HD" Radio and AM {HD} Radio is not a real issue with her. hd radio well just may be... but then again only time will tell ~ RHF |
why not, Why Not. WHY NOT ! - Leave AM Radio Alone
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 12, 10:17?am, "RHF" wrote: Why Not a 15KW, 20KW or 25KW "HD" Digital AM/MW Radio Signal which should be as effective as a 50KW Analog Radio Signal for a Radio Station that is Broadcasting on an 'closed' Clear Channel. If the current 1/100th of analog power works fine in the useful / usable signal range of the analog signal, just a slight increase will make HD more usable than the analog signal. "Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the anecdotal evidence suggests. Ibiquity no longer reports in its public summaries whether a station is on the air." And those 175 represent about 90% of the viable AMs in the top 100 markets. You can keep spouting this crap until the cows come home but nobody but you believes it. It's very simple to verify. Look at the geography of the metro in each top 100 market. Then look at the day and night "usable" coverage of the AM stations in each market. You will find that there are very few markets with more than a couple of signals that fully cover the market they are in; all the rest are partial in coverage and, by virtue of being AM and having defective coverage, are not going to be much of a factor. For example, Washington DC does not have one viable AM station. Phoenix has two. Boston has, maybe, 3. Philadelphia has 3. Miami has one, and that is a stretch. Denver has 2. Chicago has 5, San Francisco has 4, San Diego has 2, Dallas / Ft Worth has 3, Houston has, barely, 1, Pittsburgh has 1, Atlanta has 1, Nashville has 1, Detroit has 2, etc., etc. As markets grow more and more to the suburbs, fewer and fewer stations are going to be viable. |
why not, Why Not. WHY NOT ! - Leave AM Radio Alone
On Mar 12, 6:26 pm, Telamon
wrote: In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Mar 12, 10:17?am, "RHF" wrote: Why Not a 15KW, 20KW or 25KW "HD" Digital AM/MW Radio Signal which should be as effective as a 50KW Analog Radio Signal for a Radio Station that is Broadcasting on an 'closed' Clear Channel. If the current 1/100th of analog power works fine in the useful / usable signal range of the analog signal, just a slight increase will make HD more usable than the analog signal. "Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the anecdotal evidence suggests. Ibiquity no longer reports in its public summaries whether a station is on the air." And those 175 represent about 90% of the viable AMs in the top 100 markets. You can keep spouting this crap until the cows come home but nobody but you believes it. -- Telamon Ventura, California- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Telamon, Kim Komando - "America's Digital Goddess" http://www.komando.com/buyguide/index.aspx?id=3024 would seam to be promoting HD Radio . . . KOMANDO = http://www.komando.com/ But me thinks that this is focused on FM "HD" Radio and AM {HD} Radio is not a real issue with her. hd radio well just may be... but then again only time will tell ~ RHF |
why not, Why Not. WHY NOT ! - Leave AM Radio Alone
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 12, 10:17?am, "RHF" wrote: Why Not a 15KW, 20KW or 25KW "HD" Digital AM/MW Radio Signal which should be as effective as a 50KW Analog Radio Signal for a Radio Station that is Broadcasting on an 'closed' Clear Channel. If the current 1/100th of analog power works fine in the useful / usable signal range of the analog signal, just a slight increase will make HD more usable than the analog signal. "Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the anecdotal evidence suggests. Ibiquity no longer reports in its public summaries whether a station is on the air." And those 175 represent about 90% of the viable AMs in the top 100 markets. You can keep spouting this crap until the cows come home but nobody but you believes it. It's very simple to verify. Look at the geography of the metro in each top 100 market. Then look at the day and night "usable" coverage of the AM stations in each market. You will find that there are very few markets with more than a couple of signals that fully cover the market they are in; all the rest are partial in coverage and, by virtue of being AM and having defective coverage, are not going to be much of a factor. For example, Washington DC does not have one viable AM station. Phoenix has two. Boston has, maybe, 3. Philadelphia has 3. Miami has one, and that is a stretch. Denver has 2. Chicago has 5, San Francisco has 4, San Diego has 2, Dallas / Ft Worth has 3, Houston has, barely, 1, Pittsburgh has 1, Atlanta has 1, Nashville has 1, Detroit has 2, etc., etc. As markets grow more and more to the suburbs, fewer and fewer stations are going to be viable. OK, I went to radio-locator.com and found that there are 16 AM stations with moderate to very strong signal levels in my area and I pickup many more during the daytime in my small town 60 miles north of LA. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
why not, Why Not. WHY NOT ! - Leave AM Radio Alone
In article om,
"RHF" wrote: On Mar 12, 6:26 pm, Telamon wrote: In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Mar 12, 10:17?am, "RHF" wrote: Why Not a 15KW, 20KW or 25KW "HD" Digital AM/MW Radio Signal which should be as effective as a 50KW Analog Radio Signal for a Radio Station that is Broadcasting on an 'closed' Clear Channel. If the current 1/100th of analog power works fine in the useful / usable signal range of the analog signal, just a slight increase will make HD more usable than the analog signal. "Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the anecdotal evidence suggests. Ibiquity no longer reports in its public summaries whether a station is on the air." And those 175 represent about 90% of the viable AMs in the top 100 markets. You can keep spouting this crap until the cows come home but nobody but you believes it. -- Telamon Ventura, California- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Telamon, Kim Komando - "America's Digital Goddess" http://www.komando.com/buyguide/index.aspx?id=3024 would seam to be promoting HD Radio . . . Kim Komando - America's digital ditz on the radio. Can't expect anything more out a blond I guess. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
why not, Why Not. WHY NOT ! - Leave AM Radio Alone
"Telamon" wrote in message news:telamon_spamshield- OK, I went to radio-locator.com and found that there are 16 AM stations with moderate to very strong signal levels in my area and I pickup many more during the daytime in my small town 60 miles north of LA. The radio-locator maps are labeled "for amusement purposes only." Listening of a quantifiable (as opposed to "occasional") nature occurs about 20% INSIDE the innermost red contour in radio-locator. This is proven in market after market, on AM and FM, based on overlaying listening maps on coverage contours. While you can "hear" many stations if you set out to find them, the average listener does not put up with anything but a strong, interference free signal... that means about 10 mv/m or more in a metro on AM and about 64 dbu on FM. Ventura / Oxnard is not even a top 100 market, anyway. But not a single one of the local stations (KOXR having the best signal day and night) even covers, usefully, 50% of the county. |
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