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I was browsing in Radio Shack today, and I bought a black Grundig S 350 DL.
I've had a regular 350 for quite a while now, and have always loved it, so I
thought I would pick up on the new version. I haven't had time to tune
around on it yet, but it looks like it will be a fine addition to my
portable collection. It looks very cool in black. I like the idea of the FM
stereo and the fact it will take AA batteries too. I always have a good
supply of them in the house, but I never have that many extra D cells
around.

Last month I bought The small black Grundig Mini-300, and have had a barrel
of fun with it. The size and performance for 29 bucks made it a great
deal. The S350 DL was only 99 plus tax. I like the new steam of portables
that is hitting America. Neat radios for a great prices. It kind of juices
up the old hobby. I love collecting radios as much as listening to them.


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On Apr 4, 4:02�am, "SWL-2010" wrote:
I was browsing in Radio Shack today, and I bought a black Grundig S 350 DL.
I've had a regular 350 for quite a while now, and have always loved it, so I
thought I would pick up on the new version. *I haven't had time to tune
around on it yet, but it looks like it will be a fine addition to my
portable collection. *It looks very cool in black. I like the idea of the FM
stereo and the fact it will take AA batteries too. *I always have a good
supply of them in the house, but I never have that many extra D cells
around.

Last month I bought The small black Grundig Mini-300, and have had a barrel
of fun with it. *The size and performance for 29 bucks *made it a great
deal. *The S350 DL was only 99 plus tax. *I like the new steam of portables
that is hitting America. Neat radios for a great prices. It kind of juices
up the old hobby. *I love collecting radios as much as listening to them.


The S350 is poison - stay away from it:

"Survey #2 - What is the most over rated radio that you have ever
owned?"

http://www.radiointel.com/results2.htm

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On Apr 4, 1:18?pm, lsmyer wrote:
Congratulations on your cool new radio. I have a Tecsun BCL-2000
(Chinese version of the S-350) which I really like, and I've also
considered the S-350DL.

How does your new radio's performance (sensitivity, sound, drifting,
tuning) compare with your original S-350?

For some reason, some of the people who post here get really worked up
over the S-350DL. Don't let their criticism ruin your enjoyment of your
new radio.


The S350s are garbage - open yours up and see what I mean.

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On Apr 4, 4:02?am, "SWL-2010" wrote:
I was browsing in Radio Shack today, and I bought a black Grundig S 350

DL.
I've had a regular 350 for quite a while now, and have always loved it, so

I
thought I would pick up on the new version. I haven't had time to tune
around on it yet, but it looks like it will be a fine addition to my
portable collection. It looks very cool in black. I like the idea of the

FM
stereo and the fact it will take AA batteries too. I always have a good
supply of them in the house, but I never have that many extra D cells
around.

Last month I bought The small black Grundig Mini-300, and have had a

barrel
of fun with it. The size and performance for 29 bucks made it a great
deal. The S350 DL was only 99 plus tax. I like the new steam of portables
that is hitting America. Neat radios for a great prices. It kind of juices
up the old hobby. I love collecting radios as much as listening to them.


The S350 is poison - stay away from it:

Poison? That's a little dramatic. It's a radio. I've owned a 350 for
several years and I love. I dont care anymore about radio reviews than I do
movie reviews. They're someone elses opinion. I'm capable of forming my own
opinions.


"Survey #2 - What is the most over rated radio that you have ever
owned?"

http://www.radiointel.com/results2.htm


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Congratulations on your cool new radio. I have a Tecsun BCL-2000
(Chinese version of the S-350) which I really like, and I've also
considered the S-350DL.

How does your new radio's performance (sensitivity, sound, drifting,
tuning) compare with your original S-350?


I havn't had time to sit down and tune it much yet, but so far so good. I
can't detect any drift to amount to anything. The sound is great. The two
tone controls make it rich, or flat, any way you want it. And so far, like
my older S350, the sensitivity is very good. I've used my S350 a great deal,
so I thought I would get the newer verision since the price was right at
only a hundred bucks.


For some reason, some of the people who post here get really worked up
over the S-350DL. Don't let their criticism ruin your enjoyment of your
new radio.


Negative and/or foolish people don't affect me or rain on my parade.
Unfortunatly they do live among us, all we can do is tolerate their petty
jealousy and insecurities. They're kind of like the bratty kid who shows up
at your grandsons bithday party, just give them some cake and hope their
parents take them home first so they dont spoil the party for everyone else.




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On Apr 4, 9:09 am, wrote:
On Apr 4, 4:02?am, "SWL-2010" wrote:

I was browsing in Radio Shack today, and I bought a black Grundig S 350 DL.
I've had a regular 350 for quite a while now, and have always loved it, so I
thought I would pick up on the new version. ?I haven't had time to tune
around on it yet, but it looks like it will be a fine addition to my
portable collection. ?It looks very cool in black. I like the idea of the FM
stereo and the fact it will take AA batteries too. ?I always have a good
supply of them in the house, but I never have that many extra D cells
around.


Last month I bought The small black Grundig Mini-300, and have had a barrel
of fun with it. ?The size and performance for 29 bucks ?made it a great
deal. ?The S350 DL was only 99 plus tax. ?I like the new steam of portables
that is hitting America. Neat radios for a great prices. It kind of juices
up the old hobby. ?I love collecting radios as much as listening to them.


The S350 is poison - stay away from it:

"Survey #2 - What is the most over rated radio that you have ever
owned?"

http://www.radiointel.com/results2.htm


Congratulations. I think you will find the S350DL will do exactly
what it is designed to ddo. Which is deliver excellent good audio for
broadcast stations on AM, shortwave and FM with the minimum number of
controls.

I think of the S350DL and S350 as a volks-radio along the lines of the
very popular Panasonic analog/digitals of th 1980's. None of them
were designed to be DX machines but they will pull in a lot of
stations with the built-in antenna.

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On Apr 4, 1:02 am, "SWL-2010" wrote:
I was browsing in Radio Shack today, and I bought a black Grundig S 350 DL.
I've had a regular 350 for quite a while now, and have always loved it, so I
thought I would pick up on the new version. I haven't had time to tune
around on it yet, but it looks like it will be a fine addition to my
portable collection. It looks very cool in black. I like the idea of the FM
stereo and the fact it will take AA batteries too. I always have a good
supply of them in the house, but I never have that many extra D cells
around.

Last month I bought The small black Grundig Mini-300, and have had a barrel
of fun with it. The size and performance for 29 bucks made it a great
deal. The S350 DL was only 99 plus tax. I like the new steam of portables
that is hitting America. Neat radios for a great prices. It kind of juices
up the old hobby. I love collecting radios as much as listening to them.


Congratulations. I think you will find the S350DL will do exactly
what it is designed to ddo. Which is deliver excellent good audio
for
broadcast stations on AM, shortwave and FM with the minimum number of
controls.

I think of the S350DL and S350 as a volks-radio along the lines of
the
very popular Panasonic analog/digitals of th 1980's. None of them
were designed to be DX machines but they will pull in a lot of
stations with the built-in antenna.



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"SWL-2010" ) writes:

I havn't had time to sit down and tune it much yet, but so far so good.

I
can't detect any drift to amount to anything. The sound is great. The

two
tone controls make it rich, or flat, any way you want it. And so far,

like
my older S350, the sensitivity is very good. I've used my S350 a great

deal,
so I thought I would get the newer verision since the price was right at
only a hundred bucks.

What some people forget is what it was like to have a low end receiver
forty years or so ago.

I bought a Hallicrafter's S120A (as I've mentioned before, it was a solid
state receiver) in the summer of 1971, and paid something like $80, maybe

a
bit more, here in Canada. It was about the cheapest new receiver I could
buy, and it was barely within my price range.

It got the really strong signals, and not much else. It overloaded badly,
it seemed to be from FM broadcast stations or maybe TV. The BFO was so
weak that it wasn't useable for receiving SSB. The dial had all kinds of
exotic locations listed on it, but not only was the calibration way off,
but frequency readout was like "it's closer to the .5 than the .0 mark".
It had horrible backlash on the tuning knob. It was awful.

I claim it was the world's worst shortwave receiver, but I suspect it
wasn't that different from many of the low end solid state receivers from
the period, before real advancements had been made in making good solid
state shortwave receivers. We suffered through them because we couldn't
afford anything better.

I imagine a $20 shortwave portable from Radio Shack today couldn't be
worse than that old Hallicrafter's. Plus, you'd get a digital readout,
and likely the tuning knob (if it wasn't tuned by up/down buttons) would
have less backlash than that first receiver of mine.

That doesn't mean that relative to better receivers of today the low
end are perfect, merely that they can't be worse, and may be better
for the simple reason that design has changed.

Michael


Well, I've been buying radios and other electronic toys for many years now,
and I never expect anymore than I pay for. I am rarely dissapointed, and
often times pleasantly surprised. If I buy a hundred dollar radio, I pretty
much know what to expect. However, with the Grundigs, I get some pretty good
radios for that price range. I bought a 29 dollar Grundig last month and
have had a ball with it. I never factor out the fun factor in anything.
Shortwave radio has been my hobby for close to 50 years now, and I still
have fun with it. And for my money, that the central point.


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On Apr 4, 7:29 pm, (Michael Black) wrote:
"SWL-2010" ) writes:
I havn't had time to sit down and tune it much yet, but so far so good. I
can't detect any drift to amount to anything. The sound is great. The two
tone controls make it rich, or flat, any way you want it. And so far, like
my older S350, the sensitivity is very good. I've used my S350 a great deal,
so I thought I would get the newer verision since the price was right at
only a hundred bucks.


What some people forget is what it was like to have a low end receiver
forty years or so ago.

I bought a Hallicrafter's S120A (as I've mentioned before, it was a solid
state receiver) in the summer of 1971, and paid something like $80, maybe a
bit more, here in Canada. It was about the cheapest new receiver I could
buy, and it was barely within my price range.

It got the really strong signals, and not much else. It overloaded badly,
it seemed to be from FM broadcast stations or maybe TV. The BFO was so
weak that it wasn't useable for receiving SSB. The dial had all kinds of
exotic locations listed on it, but not only was the calibration way off,
but frequency readout was like "it's closer to the .5 than the .0 mark".
It had horrible backlash on the tuning knob. It was awful.

I claim it was the world's worst shortwave receiver, but I suspect it
wasn't that different from many of the low end solid state receivers from
the period, before real advancements had been made in making good solid
state shortwave receivers. We suffered through them because we couldn't
afford anything better.

I imagine a $20 shortwave portable from Radio Shack today couldn't be
worse than that old Hallicrafter's. Plus, you'd get a digital readout,
and likely the tuning knob (if it wasn't tuned by up/down buttons) would
have less backlash than that first receiver of mine.

That doesn't mean that relative to better receivers of today the low
end are perfect, merely that they can't be worse, and may be better
for the simple reason that design has changed.

Michael


I think an old Hallicrafters S120A, Lafayette HA230 or Realistic
DX150b are good examples of radios that were for very good reasons
popular once upon a time. They can be fun to spin the dials on even
today. Ultimately however, I think they serve as a benchmark from
which to measure how far radio technology has advanced.

It would not be difficult to find a digitally tuned portable priced at
$50.00 to $100.00 that will substantially out perform any of those
oldies. But it won't look or feel like a bandspread tuned receiver
either, and it won't give the tactile and aural pleasure of slowly
turning a weighted bandspread knob and listening carefully as stations
gradually come into and out of tune. Eventually, when finding a
specific station or jumping from band to band goes to slowly the game
gets a little old.

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On Apr 4, 7:29 pm, (Michael Black) wrote:
"SWL-2010" ) writes:
I havn't had time to sit down and tune it much yet, but so far so good. I
can't detect any drift to amount to anything. The sound is great. The two
tone controls make it rich, or flat, any way you want it. And so far, like
my older S350, the sensitivity is very good. I've used my S350 a great deal,
so I thought I would get the newer verision since the price was right at
only a hundred bucks.


What some people forget is what it was like to have a low end receiver
forty years or so ago.

I bought a Hallicrafter's S120A (as I've mentioned before, it was a solid
state receiver) in the summer of 1971, and paid something like $80, maybe a
bit more, here in Canada. It was about the cheapest new receiver I could
buy, and it was barely within my price range.

It got the really strong signals, and not much else. It overloaded badly,
it seemed to be from FM broadcast stations or maybe TV. The BFO was so
weak that it wasn't useable for receiving SSB. The dial had all kinds of
exotic locations listed on it, but not only was the calibration way off,
but frequency readout was like "it's closer to the .5 than the .0 mark".
It had horrible backlash on the tuning knob. It was awful.

I claim it was the world's worst shortwave receiver, but I suspect it
wasn't that different from many of the low end solid state receivers from
the period, before real advancements had been made in making good solid
state shortwave receivers. We suffered through them because we couldn't
afford anything better.

I imagine a $20 shortwave portable from Radio Shack today couldn't be
worse than that old Hallicrafter's. Plus, you'd get a digital readout,
and likely the tuning knob (if it wasn't tuned by up/down buttons) would
have less backlash than that first receiver of mine.

That doesn't mean that relative to better receivers of today the low
end are perfect, merely that they can't be worse, and may be better
for the simple reason that design has changed.

Michael


I think an old Hallicrafters S120A, Lafayette HA230 or Realistic
DX150b are good examples of radios that were for very good reasons
popular once upon a time. They can be fun to spin the dials on even
today. Ultimately however, I think they serve as a benchmark from
which to measure how far radio technology has advanced.

It would not be difficult to find a digitally tuned portable priced at
$50.00 to $100.00 that will substantially out perform any of those
oldies. But it won't look or feel like a bandspread tuned receiver
either, and it won't give the tactile and aural pleasure of slowly
turning a weighted bandspread knob and listening carefully as stations
gradually come into and out of tune. Eventually, when finding a
specific station or jumping from band to band goes to slowly the game
gets a little old.

My first sw radio was an S-120, my mother got it for me for Christmas
at Sears. It was terrible on accuracy, not very selective, but when
you are 12 years old, hearing world stations was exciting. I think
that I got over 40 countries QSL'd and many states(from OK at the
time). Now, I have two restored boatanchors: An S-38 and its bigger
twin, a Lafayette HE-10, both provide the experience you mention: the
fun of seeing the old dial lamps and turning the big dials looking for
that elusive station.


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