On Apr 19, 3:40 pm, Roadie wrote:
On Apr 19, 3:12 pm, dxAce wrote:



Didn't they go up there to beat seals?- Hide quoted text -


Yup - Those at the top of the chain fishing for seals with clubs and
rifles. No worse or better than killing a cow, chicken, pig, dolphin
or fish for it's protein.- Hide quoted text -
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According to the newscast, there are more than a million seals and
pups on the pack ice.The fishermen go out to cull the herd every
spring. If this crop of seals matures and returns to the ocean, their
numbers almost guarantee the end of the cod fishery as cod stocks will
be decimated. This will affect food supplies, fishermen, and packing
plants from Newfoundland to Massachusetts. The ony other natural enemy
to the seals are sharks, and they are getting scarce.

On Apr 19, 12:40 pm, Roadie wrote:
On Apr 19, 3:12 pm, dxAce wrote:





"ve3..." wrote:
On Apr 19, 10:47 am, Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message .com,
ve3... writes

A CBC News report at 10 pm stated that hundreds of fishing boats and a
Coast Guard vessel were caught in a giant pack ice field off the east
cost of Newfoundland. Although most marine communication is VHF ,
there may be some HF communications going on. I am out of range, but
maybe some closer could have a listen to Coast Guard and fish boat
frequencies.

Is this further evidence of global warming?
Ian.
--

Did you know that every glacier in North America is advancing? They
don't tell you that in the pc media. As warming continues, more
moisture is produced in the atmosphere. Historical records show that
warming and rising co2 levels always precede an ice age which comes
suddenly.
The fishboats are in quite a fix. They are trapped in the ice with
danger of sinking and they can't walk out because of the unstable pack
ice. I think there will be a lot of helicopter activity in the next
day or two. It should be interesting radio if you can find it.

Didn't they go up there to beat seals?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yup - Those at the top of the chain fishing for seals with clubs and
rifles. No worse or better than killing a cow, chicken, pig, dolphin
or fish for it's protein.- Hide quoted text -

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Roadie - Killing to Eat and Live is One Thing.

Killing for a Baby Seal's Pure White Fur
to make Fur Coats is another.

hopefully you can understand the difference ~ RHF

Did you know that every glacier in North America is advancing? They
don't tell you that in the pc media. As warming continues, more
moisture is produced in the atmosphere. Historical records show that
warming and rising co2 levels always precede an ice age which comes
suddenly.

So the scientists of the 60's and 70's are correct!

On Apr 19, 12:38 pm, "Chas.Chan" wrote:
Did you know that every glacier in North America is advancing? They
don't tell you that in the pc media. As warming continues, more
moisture is produced in the atmosphere. Historical records show that
warming and rising co2 levels always precede an ice age which comes
suddenly.

So the scientists of the 60's and 70's are correct!

Yes - The Scientists of the 60's and 70's were Correct !
- - - They All Agree - Al Gore is Full of Hot Air and is
Causing Global Warming Flying around in His Private Jet
which uses more Carbon Based Fuel in one Flight then
a SUV does in a Year.

oh the inventive hypocrisy of being al gore ~ RHF

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Did you know that every glacier in North America is advancing? T


- Wrong . . .

http://www.nichols.edu/departments/g...er_retreat.htm

On Apr 20, 4:00 am, wrote:
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Did you know that every glacier in North America is advancing? T

- Wrong . . .

http://www.nichols.edu/departments/g...er_retreat.htm

If you read and understand the whole thing.

Glaciers Grow and Srink over time.

From 1550 to 1850 on average the World Glaciers Grew.
- - - Where was Al Gore to tell us about "The Big Freeze !"

From 1850 to 1940 on average the World Glaciers Srank.
- - - Where was Al Gore to tell us about "We're Having A Heat Wave !"

From 1940 to 1980 on average the World Glaciers Grew.
- - - Where was Al Gore to tell us about "The Big Freeze Again !"

From 1980 to Now on average the World Glaciers are Srinking Again.
- - - Where was Al Gore to tell us about "We're Having A Heat Wave
Again !"

The only difference between Now-and-Then is Now we have
Al Gore Pumping out all the Hot Air about Global Warming.

it's just one man's opinion - to which
i add the words 'hockey stick' ~ RHF

"The `Hockey Stick': A New Low in Climate Science"
- by John L. Daly
HOCKEY STICK = http://www.vision.net.au/~daly/hockey/hockey.htm

Al Gore's Idea {Hyperbole} of "Global Warming" and the
reality of the current World Wide {Global} Climate Change
is Politically Motivated "SCIENTISM"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...42c38561e68cc3
Let Us All Bow Down at the Alter of Global Warming

On Apr 20, 8:02 am, RHF wrote:
On Apr 20, 4:00 am, wrote:

--

Did you know that every glacier in North America is advancing? T

- Wrong . . .

http://www.nichols.edu/departments/g...er_retreat.htm

If you read and understand the whole thing.

Glaciers Grow and Srink over time.

Shrink ?

From 1550 to 1850 on average the World Glaciers Grew.

Link ??

S N I P

- Where is a link supporting this, and other statement??

- - - Where was Al Gore to tell us about "We're Having A Heat Wave
Again !"


Go Rent " An Inconvenient truth"

- really, it's a good film . . .

Be Brave....

Listening to LOTS of traffic on 11.175 . . .

On Apr 19, 7:47 am, Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message .com,
ve3... writes

A CBC News report at 10 pm stated that hundreds of fishing boats and a
Coast Guard vessel were caught in a giant pack ice field off the east
cost of Newfoundland. Although most marine communication is VHF ,
there may be some HF communications going on. I am out of range, but
maybe some closer could have a listen to Coast Guard and fish boat
frequencies.

Is this further evidence of global warming?
Ian.
--

Send in Al Gore with his Magical Mystery Tour and
Bring Forth "Gobal Warming" to Melt them Free ~ RHF

On Apr 19, 9:55 pm, RHF wrote:
On Apr 19, 7:47 am, Ian Jackson

wrote:
In message .com,
ve3... writes

A CBC News report at 10 pm stated that hundreds of fishing boats and a
Coast Guard vessel were caught in a giant pack ice field off the east
cost of Newfoundland. Although most marine communication is VHF ,
there may be some HF communications going on. I am out of range, but
maybe some closer could have a listen to Coast Guard and fish boat
frequencies.

Is this further evidence of global warming?
Ian.
--

Send in Al Gore with his Magical Mystery Tour and
Bring Forth "Gobal Warming" to Melt them Free ~ RHF
.
.
. .

http://www.environmentaldefense.org/...contentid=4371


State of Fear: Even if warming is occurring, there is little evidence
of human causality.

The facts: Attribution of global warming to a specific cause or causes
is admittedly difficult, but a variety of independent lines of
investigation all point to human emissions of CO2 and other GHGs as a
major culprit:

No one has been able to put forward a self-consistent and quantitative
explanation for the warming in the latter half of the 20th century
without invoking the effects of the GHG from human activities;
The "smoking gun" pointing to industrial emissions as the culprit in
global warming has been identified in the spatial and temporal
worldwide patterns of warming in the atmosphere and oceans; and
Global temperatures in the last few decades appear to be warmer than
in any other time period over the past 2,000 years.
State of Fear: Predictions of global warming are based on climate-
model calculations that cannot be relied upon; results from different
models disagree by more than 400%.

The facts: Highly advanced climate models have been thoroughly and
carefully vetted by the scientific community. It is true that these
models project a wide range in the warming of the globe by 2100 (i.e.,
from about 3 to 10 degrees Fahrenheit). Much of this range arises from
differing assumptions about economic, demographic and technological
trends that influence CO2 emissions, not in the models' simulation of
the effects of these emissions on climate. All of the models predict
that increasing CO2 emissions will lead to further warming of the
globe and that the more we emit CO2 in the future, the more the globe
will warm. This is actually good news because it suggests we can
actually do something about global warming; that is, cut emissions of
CO2 and other GHGs.

On Apr 21, 3:01 pm, wrote:
On Apr 19, 9:55 pm, RHF wrote:





On Apr 19, 7:47 am, Ian Jackson

wrote:
In message .com,
ve3... writes

A CBC News report at 10 pm stated that hundreds of fishing boats and a
Coast Guard vessel were caught in a giant pack ice field off the east
cost of Newfoundland. Although most marine communication is VHF ,
there may be some HF communications going on. I am out of range, but
maybe some closer could have a listen to Coast Guard and fish boat
frequencies.

Is this further evidence of global warming?
Ian.
--

Send in Al Gore with his Magical Mystery Tour and
Bring Forth "Gobal Warming" to Melt them Free ~ RHF
.
.
. .

http://www.environmentaldefense.org/...contentid=4371

State of Fear: Even if warming is occurring, there is little evidence
of human causality.

The facts: Attribution of global warming to a specific cause or causes
is admittedly difficult, but a variety of independent lines of
investigation all point to human emissions of CO2 and other GHGs as a
major culprit:

No one has been able to put forward a self-consistent and quantitative
explanation for the warming in the latter half of the 20th century
without invoking the effects of the GHG from human activities;
The "smoking gun" pointing to industrial emissions as the culprit in
global warming has been identified in the spatial and temporal
worldwide patterns of warming in the atmosphere and oceans; and
Global temperatures in the last few decades appear to be warmer than
in any other time period over the past 2,000 years.
State of Fear: Predictions of global warming are based on climate-
model calculations that cannot be relied upon; results from different
models disagree by more than 400%.

The facts: Highly advanced climate models have been thoroughly and
carefully vetted by the scientific community. It is true that these
models project a wide range in the warming of the globe by 2100 (i.e.,
from about 3 to 10 degrees Fahrenheit). Much of this range arises from
differing assumptions about economic, demographic and technological
trends that influence CO2 emissions, not in the models' simulation of
the effects of these emissions on climate. All of the models predict
that increasing CO2 emissions will lead to further warming of the
globe and that the more we emit CO2 in the future, the more the globe
will warm. This is actually good news because it suggests we can
actually do something about global warming; that is, cut emissions of
CO2 and other GHGs.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Blaming humans is a scam. They just want to put more government
controls on everyone, since Communism and the Cold War didn't work.
We've gone from perhaps 313 parts per million CO2 in 1960 to perhaps
375 parts per million in 2005. That PARTS PER MILLION. That's almost
nothing. How about the times in the distant past when the earth didn't
have any polar caps at all? The climate will always change. It's
natural. How about The Medieval Warm Period that was even warmer then
out time. Or how about The Little Ice Age. Were we responsible for
those times too??? We didn't suffer disaster during those times, did
we???
What about Mars polar caps shrinking. Are we causing that?
Apparently Pluto is warming up. And it isn't getting close to the Sun.
Some moons in the Solar System are warming up. And new storms on some
of the big gas giants are apparently due to temperature changes on
those planets. Maybe we have Solar System warming. Maybe it has
something to do with our orbital path around the sun gradually
changing, or the amount of tilt of our axis, or the precession of the
equinox, The precession of the equinox is a cycle of 25,765 years.
There are a lot of other things that can cause Global Warming or
cooling. How about changes in the energy output of the Sun. The Sun
has many more cycles then just the eleven years sun spot cycle. Some
of them lasting thousands of years, some of them hundreds of thousands
of years. How about the solar systems place in the Galaxy, Sometimes
we are in the thick part of a galactic arm. Sometimes in a thin part.
(Very dusty and gassy, or very little dust and gas. This can effect
the amount of both solar radiation and interstellar radiation. That
can effect the amount of cloud cover/ water vapor in the atmosphere.
Water vapor is much more of a greenhouse gas then CO2.)

Take a look at this film. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...31355859226455

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