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(OT) Fluorescent Light Bulb Warning.
Roadie wrote: On May 19, 3:00 pm, Telamon wrote: In article om, Roadie wrote: On May 18, 9:50 pm, wrote: www.newswithviews.com I don't like fluorescent light bulbs.From now on when I go to the food store,I am going to start stocking up on good old G.E.Real Incandescent Light Bulbs,the 60 Watters.I am going to clean off the top shelves in the closets in my house and stack em up in cardboard boxes.When fed govt starts shoving fluorescent light bulbs (so-called light bulbs) down everybodys throats,I will still be wasteing my electricity that I pay for on my good old G.E.Real Incandscent 60 WATT LIGHT BULBS. cuhulin,the Electricity Waster dude.Waste Mo Electricity,you can't take it with you In celebration of Earth Day my local grocery store had GE CFL's on sale for a buck a piece. Couldn't resist the opportunity so I swapped out most of the bulbs. What a difference - because they are so much more efficient they consume 1/4 the energy for an equivalent amount of light from an incandescent bulb. The color temperature is very close to incandescent too. And for SWL's concerned about noise, the only time I pick up any noise from one is to move the radio to within 5 inches of the light. Did you know that even though CFL's contain a very small amount of mercury that they actually release less mercury into the atmosphere than an incandescent. That is possible because much of our power comes from burned coal which releases large amounts of mercury into the air. Indeed if you were to break all of the mercury CFL bulbs the total amount of mercury released including the amount of mercury used in power generation would be far less than that released by incandescent. You can always have a bulb re-cycling program to collect the mercury. Yes, I agree and such programs are starting in the USA. An NPR program characterized the amount as something like 5 miligrams...the size of the tip of a ball point pen. The amount of mercury not spewed into the atmosphere by buring coal makes the risk of a few bulbs breaking and the cost of recycling a more than reasonable tradeoff in my mind. However, that mercury is being spewed into the atmosphere in China where the bulbs are apparently all made. Additionally, if one breaks in your home, it can cost up to $2300 to actually clean the place up due to the mercury, this was also I think pointed out on NPR or perhaps another network. I can imagine that once the bulbs are more commonplace that a real estate sale might just include testing for mercury and cleanup of any possible contamination prior to sale. Overall, I see it as a no win situation, and plan to stock up on incandescents. F**K you, Al Gore, you mentally ill idiot. Oh well, the Preakness is about to run. Hopefully my horse Curlin will have a better showing. The CFL's I have seen do not have a incandescent bulb spectrum but like most florescent bulbs tint toward blue. Actually the newer ones are colored slightly warm to come close to incandescent bulbs. The color in degrees kelvin is 2700 for the GE and comparable helical style bulbs. GE and other companies do make cooler bulbs. The older style bulbs were definitely on the cold side giving ones face a corpse-like color! It would cost more money for the inside bulb coating and also reduce the efficiency of the bulb for a CFL to generate a redder spectrum. Don't know how they do it, but the current group of bulbs is right in there with incandescents for color temperature. Indeed I swapped 10 of them out and told my wife I'd improved on the lighting but didn't say how. She couldn't see a difference. What did you pay for the bulbs? $1.00 a piece at the local grocery on Earth Day. Shop around a bit and you can find them in packages for a cost of $2.50 per bulb. Another question is how did you determine that they only disturb the radio from 5 inches away? The problem with this technology is that the power spectrum they broadcast is diverse with more power on some frequencies. You would need a spectrum analyzer to determine this with any certainty. Tuning around and listening gets me close enough to certainty. If I can't hear it and it doesn't disturb listening them it isn't a problem. The greatest noise was on the AM band and it disappears within 10 inches of the bulb. |
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(OT) Fluorescent Light Bulb Warning.
On Sat, 19 May 2007 17:28:32 -0400, dxAce
wrote: Additionally, if one breaks in your home, it can cost up to $2300 to actually clean the place up due to the mercury, this was also I think pointed out on NPR or perhaps another network. I can imagine that once the bulbs are more commonplace that a real estate sale might just include testing for mercury and cleanup of any possible contamination prior to sale. Overall, I see it as a no win situation, and plan to stock up on incandescents. Urban legend, Sparkie. http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/cfl.asp |
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(OT) Fluorescent Light Bulb Warning.
"David" wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 May 2007 17:28:32 -0400, dxAce wrote: Additionally, if one breaks in your home, it can cost up to $2300 to actually clean the place up due to the mercury, this was also I think pointed out on NPR or perhaps another network. I can imagine that once the bulbs are more commonplace that a real estate sale might just include testing for mercury and cleanup of any possible contamination prior to sale. Overall, I see it as a no win situation, and plan to stock up on incandescents. Urban legend, Sparkie. http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/cfl.asp It's only urban legend if you want to believe it is... Area school had a spill, only trace amounts were found (about as much as is in a large florescent bulb), yet they still were required to have a HazMat team come in and clean it up, go figure... http://www.woodtv.com/global/story.asp?s=5508360 |
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(OT) Fluorescent Light Bulb Warning.
Over the many,many years,I have accidently dropped and broken a few
incandescent light bulbs before. (heck,who hasen't?) But,I never worried about it.I simply sweeped up the broken pieces and put them in a garbage bag for the garbage truck to pick up.Otherwise,what was I supposed to do? If I ever accidently drop and break another one,I will do same same.Hark! call the Knacker! call hazmat! cuhulin |
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(OT) Fluorescent Light Bulb Warning.
Het,,, I use long flourescent light bulbs in my shop/shed in my back
yard.I have accidently dropped and broke a few of them too. cuhulin,the Hazzard |
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(OT) Fluorescent Light Bulb Warning.
Don't y'all just love it when y'all accidently drop and bust a light
bulb? POP! Do y'all know the true story of that auld Pop Goes the Weasel song thingy? I know.Do you? cuhulin |
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(OT) Fluorescent Light Bulb Warning.
On May 19, 5:28 pm, dxAce wrote:
Roadie wrote: On May 19, 3:00 pm, Telamon wrote: In article om, Roadie wrote: On May 18, 9:50 pm, wrote: www.newswithviews.com I don't like fluorescent light bulbs.From now on when I go to the food store,I am going to start stocking up on good old G.E.Real Incandescent Light Bulbs,the 60 Watters.I am going to clean off the top shelves in the closets in my house and stack em up in cardboard boxes.When fed govt starts shoving fluorescent light bulbs (so-called light bulbs) down everybodys throats,I will still be wasteing my electricity that I pay for on my good old G.E.Real Incandscent 60 WATT LIGHT BULBS. cuhulin,the Electricity Waster dude.Waste Mo Electricity,you can't take it with you In celebration of Earth Day my local grocery store had GE CFL's on sale for a buck a piece. Couldn't resist the opportunity so I swapped out most of the bulbs. What a difference - because they are so much more efficient they consume 1/4 the energy for an equivalent amount of light from an incandescent bulb. The color temperature is very close to incandescent too. And for SWL's concerned about noise, the only time I pick up any noise from one is to move the radio to within 5 inches of the light. Did you know that even though CFL's contain a very small amount of mercury that they actually release less mercury into the atmosphere than an incandescent. That is possible because much of our power comes from burned coal which releases large amounts of mercury into the air. Indeed if you were to break all of the mercury CFL bulbs the total amount of mercury released including the amount of mercury used in power generation would be far less than that released by incandescent. You can always have a bulb re-cycling program to collect the mercury. Yes, I agree and such programs are starting in the USA. An NPR program characterized the amount as something like 5 miligrams...the size of the tip of a ball point pen. The amount of mercury not spewed into the atmosphere by buring coal makes the risk of a few bulbs breaking and the cost of recycling a more than reasonable tradeoff in my mind. However, that mercury is being spewed into the atmosphere in China where the bulbs are apparently all made. That problem occurs with any product that requires electricity in it's manfacture in China. On a related note imagine what is happening around their chip fabrication labs. Additionally, if one breaks in your home, it can cost up to $2300 to actually clean the place up due to the mercury, this was also I think pointed out on NPR or perhaps another network. Not on the NPR program I heard yesterday afternoon. I can imagine that once the bulbs are more commonplace that a real estate sale might just include testing for mercury and cleanup of any possible contamination prior to sale. No more than from the very common long tube flourescent tubes that have been used in kiteches and under counters for decades. Indeed the amount of mercury used in bulbs has been reduced drastically. One very important point to remember is that the total addition of mercury to the ecology is still much less with flourescent bulbs than with incandescent, even if you were to break all those bulbs. Overall, I see it as a no win situation, and plan to stock up on incandescents. You are ahead in terms of energy consumption and mrecury pollution by switching to flourescent. F**K you, Al Gore, you mentally ill idiot. Oh well, the Preakness is about to run. Hopefully my horse Curlin will have a better showing. The CFL's I have seen do not have a incandescent bulb spectrum but like most florescent bulbs tint toward blue. Actually the newer ones are colored slightly warm to come close to incandescent bulbs. The color in degrees kelvin is 2700 for the GE and comparable helical style bulbs. GE and other companies do make cooler bulbs. The older style bulbs were definitely on the cold side giving ones face a corpse-like color! It would cost more money for the inside bulb coating and also reduce the efficiency of the bulb for a CFL to generate a redder spectrum. Don't know how they do it, but the current group of bulbs is right in there with incandescents for color temperature. Indeed I swapped 10 of them out and told my wife I'd improved on the lighting but didn't say how. She couldn't see a difference. What did you pay for the bulbs? $1.00 a piece at the local grocery on Earth Day. Shop around a bit and you can find them in packages for a cost of $2.50 per bulb. Another question is how did you determine that they only disturb the radio from 5 inches away? The problem with this technology is that the power spectrum they broadcast is diverse with more power on some frequencies. You would need a spectrum analyzer to determine this with any certainty. Tuning around and listening gets me close enough to certainty. If I can't hear it and it doesn't disturb listening them it isn't a problem. The greatest noise was on the AM band and it disappears within 10 inches of the bulb.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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(OT) Fluorescent Light Bulb Warning.
dxAce wrote: Roadie wrote: On May 19, 3:00 pm, Telamon wrote: In article om, Roadie wrote: On May 18, 9:50 pm, wrote: www.newswithviews.com I don't like fluorescent light bulbs.From now on when I go to the food store,I am going to start stocking up on good old G.E.Real Incandescent Light Bulbs,the 60 Watters.I am going to clean off the top shelves in the closets in my house and stack em up in cardboard boxes.When fed govt starts shoving fluorescent light bulbs (so-called light bulbs) down everybodys throats,I will still be wasteing my electricity that I pay for on my good old G.E.Real Incandscent 60 WATT LIGHT BULBS. cuhulin,the Electricity Waster dude.Waste Mo Electricity,you can't take it with you In celebration of Earth Day my local grocery store had GE CFL's on sale for a buck a piece. Couldn't resist the opportunity so I swapped out most of the bulbs. What a difference - because they are so much more efficient they consume 1/4 the energy for an equivalent amount of light from an incandescent bulb. The color temperature is very close to incandescent too. And for SWL's concerned about noise, the only time I pick up any noise from one is to move the radio to within 5 inches of the light. Did you know that even though CFL's contain a very small amount of mercury that they actually release less mercury into the atmosphere than an incandescent. That is possible because much of our power comes from burned coal which releases large amounts of mercury into the air. Indeed if you were to break all of the mercury CFL bulbs the total amount of mercury released including the amount of mercury used in power generation would be far less than that released by incandescent. You can always have a bulb re-cycling program to collect the mercury. Yes, I agree and such programs are starting in the USA. An NPR program characterized the amount as something like 5 miligrams...the size of the tip of a ball point pen. The amount of mercury not spewed into the atmosphere by buring coal makes the risk of a few bulbs breaking and the cost of recycling a more than reasonable tradeoff in my mind. However, that mercury is being spewed into the atmosphere in China where the bulbs are apparently all made. Additionally, if one breaks in your home, it can cost up to $2300 to actually clean the place up due to the mercury, this was also I think pointed out on NPR or perhaps another network. I can imagine that once the bulbs are more commonplace that a real estate sale might just include testing for mercury and cleanup of any possible contamination prior to sale. Overall, I see it as a no win situation, and plan to stock up on incandescents. F**K you, Al Gore, you mentally ill idiot. Oh well, the Preakness is about to run. Hopefully my horse Curlin will have a better showing. Unofficial result: My horse Curlin WINS! |
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(OT) Fluorescent Light Bulb Warning.
Good on yer,Curlin! With a name almost sort of kind of similar like
cuhulin,how can you lose? Why do some people equate Incandescent Light Bulbs to Coal? America gets most of it's electricity for the grid from coal and nuclear and hydro plants.If you are using flourescent light bulbs,how do you whether or not coal is producing the electricity for those flourescent light bulbs? No urban legen here,,,, I am staying with G.E.Real Incandescent Light Bulbs for as long as possible. cuhulin,the Winner |
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