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As a fake Hispanic your margin of believability is 0%.


You seldom, if ever, have anything but invective and venom to contribute, do
you? You are a sick and little person if you can never discuss things and
always have to insult as part of your act.


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David Frackelton Gleason, so strange, his mommy made him a remittance man who
now has to pose as 'Eduardo', wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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As a fake Hispanic your margin of believability is 0%.


You seldom, if ever, have anything but invective and venom to contribute, do
you? You are a sick and little person if you can never discuss things and
always have to insult as part of your act.


At least my "act" isn't that of a fake Hispanic!



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"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Frackelton Gleason, so strange, his mommy made him a remittance man
who
now has to pose as 'Eduardo', wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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As a fake Hispanic your margin of believability is 0%.


You seldom, if ever, have anything but invective and venom to contribute,
do
you? You are a sick and little person if you can never discuss things and
always have to insult as part of your act.


At least my "act" isn't that of a fake Hispanic!


I rest my case.


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David Eduardo wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

That is because it is not "ROI."

ROI is "return on investment" or the payback on invested capital. ROI,
simplified, is how much you make each year on each dollar invested. Often
companies are measured in return on assets, as opposed to investment
capital.

Sony's $1.5 billion profit vs. $66 billion in sales gives you the profit
margin, which is just about 2%.

Supermarkets often have a margin below 1%. The profit is on volume. Other
business may have margins of 20% to 25%, but these are usually service
companies, not manufacturers. GE has a high margin, around 12%. Honda has
a
margin of 5%.



You can't really be stupid enough to compare a car company, a
supermarket chain, and an electronics manufacturer's ROI can you?


Those agre gross margins, not ROI. When you understand the difference
between margins and ROI (hint... one is a P&L metric and the other is a
balance sheet one) rejoin the conversation.



Su the numbers are bad, but they are your numbers?



P.S. A huge part of Sony´s income is not from consumer electronics.



Right

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David Frackelton Gleason, more fake than a $3 bill, wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Frackelton Gleason, so strange, his mommy made him a remittance man
who
now has to pose as 'Eduardo', wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

As a fake Hispanic your margin of believability is 0%.


You seldom, if ever, have anything but invective and venom to contribute,
do
you? You are a sick and little person if you can never discuss things and
always have to insult as part of your act.


At least my "act" isn't that of a fake Hispanic!


I rest my case.


You had no case to begin with, you phoney baloney twit.




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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
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Those agre gross margins, not ROI. When you understand the difference
between margins and ROI (hint... one is a P&L metric and the other is a
balance sheet one) rejoin the conversation.



Su the numbers are bad, but they are your numbers?


They just are not ROI numbers. ROI is return on investment, meaning,
fundamentally, if you spend capital, what is the rate of return on the
capital. For example, if you buy some machinery, over the life of the asset,
what additional profit will you make vs. the cost.

Profit margin is the percentage that is profit of gross sales. In the case
of Sony, the margin is about 1.56%. In competitive fields, this is not an
unusual margin. That is why the stock is trading around its 5 year high
right now.



P.S. A huge part of Sony´s income is not from consumer electronics.



Right


Yeah, Sony Pictures, Sony Music, etc. And the financial division, which is
significant in Japan.

Plonk.


Truth make you unhappy?


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David Frackelton Gleason, posing as the fake Hispanic 'Eduardo', wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
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Those agre gross margins, not ROI. When you understand the difference
between margins and ROI (hint... one is a P&L metric and the other is a
balance sheet one) rejoin the conversation.



Su the numbers are bad, but they are your numbers?


They just are not ROI numbers. ROI is return on investment, meaning,
fundamentally, if you spend capital, what is the rate of return on the
capital. For example, if you buy some machinery, over the life of the asset,
what additional profit will you make vs. the cost.

Profit margin is the percentage that is profit of gross sales. In the case
of Sony, the margin is about 1.56%. In competitive fields, this is not an
unusual margin. That is why the stock is trading around its 5 year high
right now.



P.S. A huge part of Sony´s income is not from consumer electronics.



Right


Yeah, Sony Pictures, Sony Music, etc. And the financial division, which is
significant in Japan.

Plonk.


Truth make you unhappy?


It sure seems to make you unhappy.


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David Eduardo wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
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Those agre gross margins, not ROI. When you understand the difference
between margins and ROI (hint... one is a P&L metric and the other is a
balance sheet one) rejoin the conversation.


Su the numbers are bad, but they are your numbers?


They just are not ROI numbers. ROI is return on investment, meaning,
fundamentally, if you spend capital, what is the rate of return on the
capital. For example, if you buy some machinery, over the life of the asset,
what additional profit will you make vs. the cost.

Profit margin is the percentage that is profit of gross sales. In the case
of Sony, the margin is about 1.56%. In competitive fields, this is not an
unusual margin. That is why the stock is trading around its 5 year high
right now.

P.S. A huge part of Sony´s income is not from consumer electronics.


Right


Yeah, Sony Pictures, Sony Music, etc. And the financial division, which is
significant in Japan.



Not to mention that Sony and Philips are co patent owners on the
Compact Disc, and the Compact Disc player.

As well as the patents on dozens of other products, subsystems or
technical refinements.


Royalties are significant.
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On Jun 8, 4:35 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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Those agre gross margins, not ROI. When you understand the difference
between margins and ROI (hint... one is a P&L metric and the other is a
balance sheet one) rejoin the conversation.


Su the numbers are bad, but they are your numbers?


They just are not ROI numbers. ROI is return on investment, meaning,
fundamentally, if you spend capital, what is the rate of return on the
capital.


Yes, but what does "they", "on", "meaning", "the" and "just" mean, Mr.
Dictionary?

For example, if you buy some machinery, over the life of the asset,
what additional profit will you make vs. the cost.

Profit margin is the percentage that is profit of gross sales. In the case
of Sony, the margin is about 1.56%. In competitive fields, this is not an
unusual margin. That is why the stock is trading around its 5 year high
right now.



P.S. A huge part of Sony´s income is not from consumer electronics.


Right


Yeah, Sony Pictures, Sony Music, etc. And the financial division, which is
significant in Japan.



Plonk.


Truth make you unhappy?


I don't know. What does "make", "unhappy" and "?" mean?

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dxAcehole wrote:

As a fake Hispanic your margin of believability is 0%.



Well, HERE is some reality for you Bozo..you can Believe in THIS.

http://tinyurl.com/2o52rm


How's your fake Miami membership doing? Still a paid up member?






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