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Default Handheld Shortwave Portable, no SSB needed, which is the best?

On Jun 3, 3:59 pm, RedPenguin wrote:
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On Jun 2, 8:46 pm, RedPenguin wrote:


I want to get a small shortwave radio, that I can use like a walkman.
I was looking at the Grundig Mini 300PE for the price at my local
radio shack, which is only $30. I notice it had no SSB but I really
don't need SSB, at least not for a walkman type, but if there is SSB
for a portable, I guess I will take it. Should I go with this portable
or no?


I want a nice cheaper radio, under $50, that I can listen to FM, AM,
and SW.


The Kaito KA-1102 fits into most of my shirt pockets, with close to 1"
sticking up from my pocket. It is the best performer, has the best
features: wide/narrow, SSB, 10 k steps on FM, 1 k steps on AM/SW in
fine tuning setting & has rugged construction. Also dual conversion on
SW/AM for reduced images. But about $70+ new from radios4you.com


The 300PE overloads terribly on FM, no memories, no SSB, single
conversion causes SW images, etc.


G5/E5 slightly larger than KA-1102, maybe won't squeeze into pocket.


The KA-11 has horribly wide selectivity AM/SW/FM. Cuba on 6180 puts
strong clear audio on 6190 where China is broadcasting to North
America via Canada. On FM 94.1, the KA-1102 gets a station 75 miles
away, but on the KA-11 on 94.1 I hear locals from 93.7, 94.5, & 105.1!


The DE1105 is only available new from China for $75 & may have no
warranty or may have to be sent back to China for repair.


DE105 single conversion causes images, no 17 MHz or 21 Mhz bands, no
SSB, no small step tuning, FM overloads.


The Kaiti KA-1101 is like the KA-1102 size wise, just a few $ cheaper
& no SSB or 1 k tuning steps.


The Eton E-100 would be the size you want. Retail is $99.95 but there
are always people selling them on eBay at auction for $50 or less.
Many of these are store returns & they'll offer a warranty usually.
It's the best performer under $100 of the really tiny radios. It
"hides" in your pocket completely. Performance overall not quite as
good on AM & FM as larger KA-1102. FM requires a stronger signal for
hiss-free stereo. No SSB, but does have 1 k tuning steps on AM/SW.
Single conversion so images possible. Good SW sensitivity. George (MN)


Something tells me to get the Kaito KA-1102. It keeps coming up with
good reviews. Does it do a fairly good job of AM/FM DXing? See I just
want to get in some DXing. I am not looking for a $15,000 portable,
but I don't want one that I might as well just throw in the trash. Do
you think I should just go with this radio or would my money be better
spent on something else like the E5 if I am going to spend $100?


I can't seem to tell by the pictures alone, does anyone know how the
Kaito 1102 is in size compared to the ICF-7600GR? I defiantly don't
want the 7600 size at all. That's why I don't walk down the street
with my 7600, too big.

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Default Handheld Shortwave Portable, no SSB needed, which is the best?

On Jun 3, 1:14 pm, RedPenguin wrote:
On Jun 3, 3:59 pm, RedPenguin wrote:





On Jun 3, 3:08 pm, wrote:


On Jun 2, 8:46 pm, RedPenguin wrote:


I want to get a small shortwave radio, that I can use like a walkman.
I was looking at the Grundig Mini 300PE for the price at my local
radio shack, which is only $30. I notice it had no SSB but I really
don't need SSB, at least not for a walkman type, but if there is SSB
for a portable, I guess I will take it. Should I go with this portable
or no?


I want a nice cheaper radio, under $50, that I can listen to FM, AM,
and SW.


The Kaito KA-1102 fits into most of my shirt pockets, with close to 1"
sticking up from my pocket. It is the best performer, has the best
features: wide/narrow, SSB, 10 k steps on FM, 1 k steps on AM/SW in
fine tuning setting & has rugged construction. Also dual conversion on
SW/AM for reduced images. But about $70+ new from radios4you.com


The 300PE overloads terribly on FM, no memories, no SSB, single
conversion causes SW images, etc.


G5/E5 slightly larger than KA-1102, maybe won't squeeze into pocket.


The KA-11 has horribly wide selectivity AM/SW/FM. Cuba on 6180 puts
strong clear audio on 6190 where China is broadcasting to North
America via Canada. On FM 94.1, the KA-1102 gets a station 75 miles
away, but on the KA-11 on 94.1 I hear locals from 93.7, 94.5, & 105.1!


The DE1105 is only available new from China for $75 & may have no
warranty or may have to be sent back to China for repair.


DE105 single conversion causes images, no 17 MHz or 21 Mhz bands, no
SSB, no small step tuning, FM overloads.


The Kaiti KA-1101 is like the KA-1102 size wise, just a few $ cheaper
& no SSB or 1 k tuning steps.


The Eton E-100 would be the size you want. Retail is $99.95 but there
are always people selling them on eBay at auction for $50 or less.
Many of these are store returns & they'll offer a warranty usually.
It's the best performer under $100 of the really tiny radios. It
"hides" in your pocket completely. Performance overall not quite as
good on AM & FM as larger KA-1102. FM requires a stronger signal for
hiss-free stereo. No SSB, but does have 1 k tuning steps on AM/SW.
Single conversion so images possible. Good SW sensitivity. George (MN)


Something tells me to get the Kaito KA-1102. It keeps coming up with
good reviews. Does it do a fairly good job of AM/FM DXing? See I just
want to get in some DXing. I am not looking for a $15,000 portable,
but I don't want one that I might as well just throw in the trash. Do
you think I should just go with this radio or would my money be better
spent on something else like the E5 if I am going to spend $100?


I can't seem to tell by the pictures alone, does anyone know how the
Kaito 1102 is in size compared to the ICF-7600GR? I defiantly don't
want the 7600 size at all. That's why I don't walk down the street
with my 7600, too big.- Hide quoted text -

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I don't have the specs, but I have seen them side by side and the
Kaito KA1102 is quite a bit smaller then the Sony ICF 7600GR.
The Kaito KA1102/Degen DE1102 is 143 X 88 X 28.50 mm
Yes, I really like my KA1102's.

Maybe someone on this list can give you the size of the 7600GR.

The Kaito KA11 that I have is actually quite a good performer for
its' size. I have heard that this past year or so quality control at
the factory has been a bit of a hit and miss affair. You must take
into consideration the limits of it's size. You cannot expect a radio
small enough to fit into you pocket to perform like a big Kenwood or
Yaesu tabletop communications receiver, or even a large portable like
the Grundig G5. Even the tiny Sonys like the SW100S, cost a lot of
money for a few more bells, and whistles, and their speakers are still
so small that they still don't sound very well compared to a larger
cheaper radio with a bigger speaker and larger enclosure.
There are tradeoffs that you must make in return for smaller size
and extra portability. And for extra bells and whistles like on the
little Sony SW100S, you will pay a lot.
It's possible that the other owner of the KA11 got one that
just isn't up to the quality of most of them. Sometimes a bad one
slips through the system. Owning a number of radios over the years,
and having worked in quality control at a large manufacturer, I know
that these things can happen. I have heard of people that love their
Sony ICF 7600GR radios. They are an excellent radio... but...
... there have also been some that had a problem of once kind or
another with them and were not happy with the Sony.
All it takes is one bad experience to turn you off from a product.

Cato

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On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 13:14:20 -0700, RedPenguin

In the sub $100.00 price range, the DE1102 can't be beat. It is much
smaller than the Sony 7600GR. I think it is a bit to big to fit in
your shirt pocket, but would be easy to carry in one hand for walking.
I have never dropped mine, but I don't think it would survive. The
DE105 will fit in you pocket, but it's not much of a radio (I own that
one as well). A truly great shirt pocket radio is the Sony SW100, I
have one, but expect to pay $300.00 on ebay if you can find one.
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