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"dxAce" wrote in message
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Already took a whole bunch of classes. Ya see Edweenie, I actually have a
college degree. And, I'm not unemployed, I'm retired.

A retired person is not employed. So you are unemployed.

Obviously, the classes you took did no good if they were in any of the
social sciences or languages.

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of Katrina).

Sounds like you should go into a new business recycling all of these
diaries. At least then you'd be in a business with a future.

They are already recycled. They are scanned and saved electroincally, and
the paper is recycled. Has been this way for aobut a decade or more.

You're never going to talk people out of progress. Time marches on.
Deal with it.

That is why we have electronic measurement now, totally devoid of paper.

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Yes, but the point obviously hasn't taken hold of you yet because you
still insist on living in the past. AM is dead, so let it go and
embrace newer technologies. I don't think you appreciate the sorry
state of AM programming today.


The AMs with good signals are not dead, and can be enhanced by technology.
The ones with bad signals are, for the moment, surviving in many cases with
brokered or religious shows. And in many rural markets, AMs are quite
viable. But, in the near future, something has to be done to "modernize" the
audio of AMs on the same band the stations are on now; some inferior
stations may die, but AM can be viable for some time with change.

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"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on
Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:52:30 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

Unlike communication with God, Arbitron and Nielsen are audited by a
committee of researchers and statisticians named by the advertising
industry
which has a vested interest in the outcome of ratings.

So they get the results they want or they don't pay?

No, the agencies don't pay to begin with. Radio pays, as it is a sales tool.

That circular logic is like vodoun, only works if you believe it,
and even then failures are just written off as 'not enough faith'.

You don't understand the purpose of ratings. It is to sell advertising by
providing a metric. Radio or TV provide ratings, newspapers and magazines
provide audited circulation. This data is given to advertisers to facilitate
the evaluation of the media.

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David "I am truly bat **** crazy to keep on trying convince people that I'm
really 'Eduardo'", wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Already took a whole bunch of classes. Ya see Edweenie, I actually have a
college degree. And, I'm not unemployed, I'm retired.

A retired person is not employed. So you are unemployed.

No, I'm retired, 'tard boy.

Obviously, the classes you took did no good if they were in any of the
social sciences or languages.

They did plenty of good, oh fake one.

Now run along and tap!

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The reason this type of programming sustains a large percentage of AM
stations today is because AM has lost practically all of its listeners
who are below the age of 50. The younger listeners are no longer there
and this is a fact whether you accept it or not.


That is essentially my point. But the programming, if transported to FM with
better quality, leaps upwards in 35-54 listeners, proving that the main
difficulty of AM is the audio, a problem HD fixes for stations with decent
signals.

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On Sep 3, 1:14?pm, Steve wrote:
On Sep 3, 12:59 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:





"Steve" wrote in message

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On Sep 3, 12:44 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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Sounds like you've finally matured a bit and now see the merits of FM
and the folly of HD-AM. Congratulations.

Quite the contrary. It has been known by broadcasters for some time that
there is no way to get any significant number of listeners under 55 to
tune
to AM, and the average age of AM listeners is increasing each year as a
consequence.

Some AMs have moved to FM. Others are simulcasting. Others have no FM to
move to, and are slowly losing revenue.

Those AMs have, perhaps, some chance to survive via HD. Otherwise, AM
will
be pretty much a thing of the past and only relevant or viable for very
niche formats or in some rural areas where there are no local FMs. Of
course, this is not an immediate do or die type thing; HD can develop
over
the next few years and AMs can attempt to restore some interest among
under-55s via the improved quality.

Lol. You are such a throw back. You will never lure young people away
their iPods, their cellphones and their myspace pages. I suggest you
quickly return your head to it's usual, sandy resting place. You're
fighting a battle that was lost twenty years ago.

In the case of AM news and talk programming, the potential audience is
almost entirely 35 and over; AM is losing the 35-50 year olds due to the
dreadful sound quality, ambient noise levels in big cities, directional AMs
that "go away" at night in many parts of metros, etc.

These listeners will use the news and talk formats if delivered in a better
quality... FM or HD.

As to youth, 96% of 12-24 year olds use radio. Less than before? Yes. But
radio is still a very viable means to reach young adult demographics.- Hide quoted text -

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Yeah, you keep dreaming. I hear that record albums are also going to
make a comeback. lol- Hide quoted text -

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Wait until this happens - you'll be eating your words:

"HD Radio - Wherefore Art Thou?"

"Just contemplate that thought for a second before moving on, because
there's something around the corner that may cripple HD Radio far
worse than lackluster consumer interest, or inability to get the
product on store shelves. Second's up. If the push to make broadcast
radio pay the same exorbitant fees for "performance royalties" that
internet radio is facing wins, every side-channel that's in this rush
to HD will be included in the invoice. How's that for an HD Radio
killer?"

http://www.audiographics.com/agd/080207-1.htm

"House Judiciary Committee Hearing on Broadcast Performance Right - No
Breaks for the Broadcasters"

"Congressman Howard Berman chairs the subcommittee, and he opened the
hearing with a summary of the issues - indicating that he expected
that the committee would move legislation this year to impose a
performance royalty on broadcasters."

http://tinyurl.com/ysrnf8

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"dxAce" wrote in message
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David "I am truly bat **** crazy to keep on trying convince people that
I'm
really 'Eduardo'", wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

Already took a whole bunch of classes. Ya see Edweenie, I actually have
a
college degree. And, I'm not unemployed, I'm retired.

A retired person is not employed. So you are unemployed.

No, I'm retired, 'tard boy.

As I said, a retired person (And I said "retired" and not "retarded" which
may be my error) does not work. That means such a person is unemployed.

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On Sep 3, 1:54?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

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On Sep 3, 12:44?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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Sounds like you've finally matured a bit and now see the merits of FM
and the folly of HD-AM. Congratulations.

Quite the contrary. It has been known by broadcasters for some time that
there is no way to get any significant number of listeners under 55 to
tune
to AM, and the average age of AM listeners is increasing each year as a
consequence.

Some AMs have moved to FM. Others are simulcasting. Others have no FM to
move to, and are slowly losing revenue.

Those AMs have, perhaps, some chance to survive via HD. Otherwise, AM
will
be pretty much a thing of the past and only relevant or viable for very
niche formats or in some rural areas where there are no local FMs. Of
course, this is not an immediate do or die type thing; HD can develop
over
the next few years and AMs can attempt to restore some interest among
under-55s via the improved quality.

INSIDERADIO: "INSIDE STORY: News/Talk/Sports: Radio's Last Bastion"

"Music FMs of any flavor are utterly screwed... Which is why News/Talk/
Sports is radio's last bastion... Right now -- while FMs are losing
the music audience to new media -- satellite radio is offering more
News/Talk/Sports programming than we can fit on AM radio...
Accordingly, I urge owners of AM/FM clusters which include a News/Talk/
Sports AM to drop an FM music format and simulcast the News/Talk/
Sports AM... Imagine how smart you will look if -- suddenly -- your
entire market can now hear the News/Talk/Sports assets which are
radio's most-Sales-friendly programming..."

Claiming that AM radio is dying, when the music FMs are screwed - yea,
IBOC, with its jamming and poor coverage, is going to same AM ! You
are nothing more than an IBOC shill-parrot !

That quote is from an interview (probably with Walt Sabo or Holland Cooke)
with a consultant who wants to sell stations services that involve
converting FMs to talk. It is not the opinion of Inside Radio. Man, even
your quotes are misquoted. Of course that person is going to dismiss music
radio, as he sells talk radio services.

The fact is that FMs playing music are not screwed... those with good
content and good music will work no matter what the distribution method
is... FM, WiMax, etc. The ones that are jukeboxes with an antennas will not
do as well, although there will be a market for free radio for many many
years if not decades.

HD jams little or nothing that is actually relevant or being listened to. HD
digital coverage is as good as the analog "usable" coverage of an AM (around
10 mv/m in metros) and the newer chipsets perform much better than the
pretty dreadful first generation radios that came out in the first wave. In
fact, on my third generation car radio I get LA's KNX in HD to beyond its 5
mv/m contour... where the analog signal is subject to lots of noise, the HD
is clear. But don't let facts mess with your agenda.- Hide quoted text -

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The digital signals are only 1% of the analog - IBOC's coverage isn't
even 50% that of analogs !

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untill that painter cat scared the crap out of him.
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