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I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to
WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese
station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC


BOBO


Possibly a Chinese station because some really strange conditions were on
last night both on 75 meters but also 40 meter ham bands. Considering that
we are getting longer nights in the Northern Hemisphere it is very possible.
At 9 PM eastern here it would be around 8 am to 10 am local China time.
Which would give the possibility of night path propagation. Especially
considering that it might be coming over the North Pole into your station.
It could always be a US based station or Canadian. Since you've tried
several radios with similar results. It sounds not to be a receiver issue
with images or something like that.

75 meters within a few hundred miles totally dropped out last night around
400 UTC and 40 meters was totally non existant. However, 160 meters was
quite good and this morning quite a bit of long distance DX work between US
and Australian stations is occuring. So perhaps the ionosphere is favoring
long distance DX. Its about time as things have been dead here in the
Midwest.





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"Bebo" wrote in message
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I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to
WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese
station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC


BOBO


Possibly a Chinese station because some really strange conditions were on
last night both on 75 meters but also 40 meter ham bands. Considering that
we are getting longer nights in the Northern Hemisphere it is very
possible. At 9 PM eastern here it would be around 8 am to 10 am local
China time. Which would give the possibility of night path propagation.
Especially considering that it might be coming over the North Pole into
your station. It could always be a US based station or Canadian. Since
you've tried several radios with similar results. It sounds not to be a
receiver issue with images or something like that.

75 meters within a few hundred miles totally dropped out last night around
400 UTC and 40 meters was totally non existant. However, 160 meters was
quite good and this morning quite a bit of long distance DX work between
US and Australian stations is occuring. So perhaps the ionosphere is
favoring long distance DX. Its about time as things have been dead here in
the Midwest.




Here is something interesting that I found regarding the Chinese radio
situation. Any possibility it could be one of the mega transmitters for
hundreds of kilowatts.

I found a posting on asiawaves.net about a station used by Voice of
Russia/Voice of America. This transmitter is in the Far East of Russia near
Vladivostok which is far north and far east in Russia.

648 kHz
1000 kW RUSSIA Ussuriysk Voice of Russia / Voice of America (VOA)
Languages: Chinese, Korean
Directional antenna, azimuth 230 degrees Aug 2007


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"Billy Smith" wrote in message
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Here is something interesting that I found regarding the Chinese radio
situation. Any possibility it could be one of the mega transmitters for
hundreds of kilowatts.

I found a posting on asiawaves.net about a station used by Voice of
Russia/Voice of America. This transmitter is in the Far East of Russia
near Vladivostok which is far north and far east in Russia.

648 kHz
1000 kW RUSSIA Ussuriysk Voice of Russia / Voice of America (VOA)
Languages: Chinese, Korean
Directional antenna, azimuth 230 degrees Aug 2007



Vladivostok is NE of my location, and I regularly hear a station on 810 near
there (when the Korean jammer is shut down). Never heard anything on 648
out of there, though.. their beam is pretty much due west, directly into
China, but can likely be heard in N. Korea as well. Not much chance of being
heard in the US, except MAYBE on the west coast using a directional EWE or
Beverage.



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"Billy Smith" wrote in message
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Here is something interesting that I found regarding the Chinese radio
situation. Any possibility it could be one of the mega transmitters for
hundreds of kilowatts.

I found a posting on asiawaves.net about a station used by Voice of
Russia/Voice of America. This transmitter is in the Far East of Russia
near Vladivostok which is far north and far east in Russia.

648 kHz
1000 kW RUSSIA Ussuriysk Voice of Russia / Voice of America (VOA)
Languages: Chinese, Korean
Directional antenna, azimuth 230 degrees Aug 2007



Vladivostok is NE of my location, and I regularly hear a station on 810
near there (when the Korean jammer is shut down). Never heard anything on
648 out of there, though.. their beam is pretty much due west, directly
into China, but can likely be heard in N. Korea as well. Not much chance
of being heard in the US, except MAYBE on the west coast using a
directional EWE or Beverage.



I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa, Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH. Of course, I have been working with a
1500-2000 foot long wire for quite a few years as well. I'm currently
planning to work with a full fledged Beverage Antenna to hook up and see
what I can find for MW Dx.

That above posting regarding the Vladivostok station is actually in
Ussuriysk about 100 miles south of Vladivostok. I find it strange as well
but I did notice that propagation was very strange. Seems that last evening
there was a severe fading problem even on 75 meters as I could not pick up
many stations within 500 miles. It is like the bands went very long and I
also noticed that 160 meters was open to Australia and Indonesia earlier on
Sunday morning local US time.


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I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa, Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.


Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early 60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?




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David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
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I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa, Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.


Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early 60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?


Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
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I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.


Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?


Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


I was referring to the SW transmission in regard to the stations in Llasa,
Kunming, etc.
I did notice however that John Plimmer from South Africa does an excellent
job with his DX operating from South Africa.
Quite amazing what he picks up although he does live in the 9 khz channel
seperation area versus our 10 Khz area here in the states.
However, I do note that he had quite a nunber of catches of US stations even
on the Western edge of South Africa.
Plus the fact they have much less in the way of co channel interference and
IBOC crap going on.


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"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
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I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.


Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?


Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?


If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.
2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.


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