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On Sep 24, 10:07 am, Roadie wrote:
On Sep 23, 9:33 pm, Telamon

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Interesting changes in HD marketing afoot.


http://gormanmediablog.blogspot.com/2007/09/halif-dead-radio.html


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I don't particularly like QVC or ShopNBC because their merchandise is
mostly low-class stuff like NeverSharp knives, George Foreman Grills,
Cubic Zirconia rings, etc. They rely on high-sizzle merchandising
including overstated MSRP's that are cut by absurd discounts. Not
much has really changed in that industry from when Ron Popeil was
first marketing Veg-O-Matics.

However, a lot of people buy stuff from venues like that so think of
it as just another successful distribution channel like Overstock.Com,
Amazon.Com, etc.


Amazon.com, as with Best Buy, Radio Shack, Wal-Mart, and Circuit City
have all been miserable failures for HD Radio. Jerry Del Colliano made
the point that even if people buy HD radios, the radios do not work as
advertised and will be returned promptly.

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On Sep 24, 11:01 am, IBOCcrock wrote:
On Sep 24, 10:07 am, Roadie wrote:





On Sep 23, 9:33 pm, Telamon


wrote:
Interesting changes in HD marketing afoot.


http://gormanmediablog.blogspot.com/2007/09/halif-dead-radio.html


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Ventura, California


I don't particularly like QVC or ShopNBC because their merchandise is
mostly low-class stuff like NeverSharp knives, George Foreman Grills,
Cubic Zirconia rings, etc. They rely on high-sizzle merchandising
including overstated MSRP's that are cut by absurd discounts. Not
much has really changed in that industry from when Ron Popeil was
first marketing Veg-O-Matics.


However, a lot of people buy stuff from venues like that so think of
it as just another successful distribution channel like Overstock.Com,
Amazon.Com, etc.


Amazon.com, as with Best Buy, Radio Shack, Wal-Mart, and Circuit City
have all been miserable failures for HD Radio. Jerry Del Colliano made
the point that even if people buy HD radios, the radios do not work as
advertised and will be returned promptly.-


I have no idea who the self-proclaimed expert Jerry D.C. is, but his
and other claims about poor sales and high returns of HD radios are
unsupportable now. Such claims will either be verified or dismissed
in the next 9 months which includes the christmas selling season.


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ups.com...

I have no idea who the self-proclaimed expert Jerry D.C. is, but his
and other claims about poor sales and high returns of HD radios are
unsupportable now. Such claims will either be verified or dismissed
in the next 9 months which includes the christmas selling season.


I don't think many receivers will be sold at Christmas, 2007. The ones out
there still bite big time, and the first generation of really good ones will
come sometime in mid-2008.


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On Sep 24, 12:11 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Roadie" wrote in message

ups.com...



I have no idea who the self-proclaimed expert Jerry D.C. is, but his
and other claims about poor sales and high returns of HD radios are
unsupportable now. Such claims will either be verified or dismissed
in the next 9 months which includes the christmas selling season.


I don't think many receivers will be sold at Christmas, 2007. The ones out
there still bite big time, and the first generation of really good ones will
come sometime in mid-2008.


Speculative comments will either be proven or disproven by the sales
record tallied 120 days after the christmas rush. As of right now we
can guess about the volume of HD radio sales volume. Even more
important than the number of people buying hardware will be the number
of people who switch some of their listening time to HD channels. My
guess is that will take even longer for listening habits to change.

I think that mid-summer 2008 will be the earliest that any meaningful
HD listening statistics will be available.

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On Sep 24, 9:11 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Roadie" wrote in message

ups.com...



I have no idea who the self-proclaimed expert Jerry D.C. is, but his
and other claims about poor sales and high returns of HD radios are
unsupportable now. Such claims will either be verified or dismissed
in the next 9 months which includes the christmas selling season.



- I don't think many receivers will be sold at Christmas, 2007.

- The ones out there still bite big time,

News Flash - d'Eduardo Admits - HD Radios "Bite Big Time" !

- and the first generation of really good ones
- will come sometime in mid-2008.




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It's not like I check the shelves in the stores around here for new
radios, because I dont, I know they are cheap plastic junk.QVC channel
is in HD now? I haven't clicked on that channel in over five years.
Those QVC people,about ten percent of the money they gyp people out of,
that ten percent goes to the democrats.I wouldn't ever buy anything from
QVC.
cuhulin

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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:14:36 -0700, RHF
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On Sep 24, 9:11 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Roadie" wrote in message

ups.com...



I have no idea who the self-proclaimed expert Jerry D.C. is, but his
and other claims about poor sales and high returns of HD radios are
unsupportable now. Such claims will either be verified or dismissed
in the next 9 months which includes the christmas selling season.



- I don't think many receivers will be sold at Christmas, 2007.

- The ones out there still bite big time,

News Flash - d'Eduardo Admits - HD Radios "Bite Big Time" !

- and the first generation of really good ones
- will come sometime in mid-2008.

The worst thing you can do when debuting a new technology is give crap
to the early adopters (who tend to spread the word).
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"David" wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:14:36 -0700, RHF
wrote:

On Sep 24, 9:11 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Roadie" wrote in message

ups.com...



I have no idea who the self-proclaimed expert Jerry D.C. is, but his
and other claims about poor sales and high returns of HD radios are
unsupportable now. Such claims will either be verified or dismissed
in the next 9 months which includes the christmas selling season.


- I don't think many receivers will be sold at Christmas, 2007.

- The ones out there still bite big time,

News Flash - d'Eduardo Admits - HD Radios "Bite Big Time" !

- and the first generation of really good ones
- will come sometime in mid-2008.

The worst thing you can do when debuting a new technology is give crap
to the early adopters (who tend to spread the word).


My first CD player was crap.... and cost $1400. I can say that about nearly
every totally new product. Early XM and Sirius receivers were vastly less
effective than current ones, too.


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On Sep 25, 10:43 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"David" wrote in message

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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:14:36 -0700, RHF
wrote:


On Sep 24, 9:11 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Roadie" wrote in message


groups.com...


I have no idea who the self-proclaimed expert Jerry D.C. is, but his
and other claims about poor sales and high returns of HD radios are
unsupportable now. Such claims will either be verified or dismissed
in the next 9 months which includes the christmas selling season.


- I don't think many receivers will be sold at Christmas, 2007.


- The ones out there still bite big time,


News Flash - d'Eduardo Admits - HD Radios "Bite Big Time" !


- and the first generation of really good ones
- will come sometime in mid-2008.


The worst thing you can do when debuting a new technology is give crap
to the early adopters (who tend to spread the word).


My first CD player was crap.... and cost $1400.


We're very sorry. This must have been a major blow to you.

I can say that about nearly
every totally new product.


We know you can and that's very exciting!! Your language skills are
improving, sort of.




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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:43:41 GMT, "David Eduardo"
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My first CD player was crap.... and cost $1400. I can say that about nearly
every totally new product. Early XM and Sirius receivers were vastly less
effective than current ones, too.

''Less effective''? My Pioneer 903 picked up XM as well as my Onkyo
home receiver does. My retro CB looking Jensen picked up Sirius as
well as the new unit in my pickup truck. True, they were klunky, but
they worked. My BA Recepter gets 1 station in AM, KSPN, only during
the day, when they are 50,000 Watts.


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