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In article om,
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Telamon wrote:
In article .com,
SFTV_troy wrote:

Telamon wrote:

The reason are several but paramount is the fact that the
digital implementations are old technology......

Old? Both HD Radio and DRM (and also DAB+) are using the latest MPEG4
HE-AAC+SRM codecs. That's the newest and most-advanced digital
compression standard currently available.

The modulation is COFDM - also one of the newest
ideas available for sending data via broadcast.


CODFM has been around for decades




FALSE. It only dates back 1990 when it was standardized. NOT in any
way "old" and certainly not decades (more like just over 1 decade).


True bozo. Go look it up. CODFM is not a standard it is a concept
applied to radio transmission, telephone lines and other media.

The concept of data compression has been
around for decades. It is not a new idea.


Yes data compression is old, but MPEG4 HE-AAC is NEW. It was only
standardized in 2003, and thus your categorization that it is "old"
technology is false.


So what. You like looking at pixilated picture also? Do you understand
the downside to digital compression? Do you understand the term
"loss-less" in this context?

Such as? You keep telling me "digital has downfalls" but
so far you've not told me what they are. Please share
that information, because I'm curious to know.


Well I'm not gonna do that. You are a proponent of HD so go read
up on it. You should know about what you promote beforehand.



Wow.
Gee.


Indeed.

You're silence has totally failed to convince me (or anybody who might
be "on the fence" and undecided) that HD is bad. Alright. Here's the
reasons I like HD:

- analog sucks like a scratchy record
- lack-of-variety sucks
-
- Once analog is dead, Digital AM will have the sound quality of FM
(10 kHz wide) or even CD (+5 khz wider), so AM radio can carry
something other than just talk. Like maybe some music that doesn't
sound like its coming out of a telephone (example: Radio Disney AM).
-
- Once analog is dead, Digital FM will be able to offer 3-4 times as
many channels across the band. And Classical Radio stations will be
able to present it the way it was meant to be heard (300 kbps
surround).

Hybrid Digital Radio is a *good* thing.
As good as the internet radio.
As good as the music coming out of my Ipod.
As good as the HDTV that is replacing blurry NTSC.


Don't know much do you and that does not stop you from posting about it
or promoting something you don't understand. Gee whizz, who does that
sound like? I guess fake hispanics and digital electrical engineers go
hand in hand.

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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Hybrid Digital Radio is a *good* thing.
As good as the internet radio.
As good as the music coming out of my Ipod.
As good as the HDTV that is replacing blurry NTSC.



1) Most internet radio is low bitrate and sounds like hell.
2) I don't know what bitrate you're using on your ipod, but a lot of
people are using 64 or 96 k/b mp3 bitrates that sound like hell warmed
over.
3) "HDTV" is not replacing "blurry NTSC". DTV will do so. Most programming
on DTV is NOT HD, and may never be. It's 480i or 480p, which is supposed
to be the digital equivalent of NTSC, but in reality is loaded with
artifacts and pixelization. True HD does look pretty good, but to date the
stations have nowhere near the useful coverage of their analog
counterparts (people in the sticks can't watch them).


Cable TV penetration is about 68% to 72%, depending how the source
calculates..... satellite TV was at 24% last December, so we have less than
5% to 6% of America that gets off air signals.

There is no pixilation of TV delivered by copper, and very limited breakups
from satellite, usually weather induced.


Oh baby, that's good one. Ha Ha Ha. This certainly is more entertainment
than I expected from Eduardo today.

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Telamon wrote:


Oh baby, that's good one. Ha Ha Ha. This certainly is more entertainment
than I expected from Eduardo today.


Clearly he doesn't know much about MPEG-1 that has been the backbone
of DTV prior to HD. This group is overflowing with crazy in the last
couple days.

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