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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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I live in the city of Ventura in Ventura county. I gave you data on what
was "listen-able" as a strong signal where I live in response to your
postings about your claim that all markets (1) only have 1 to 3 strong
signals to listen to the rest being to weak to provide noise free
listening.

I am not the only one to apply this proven-by-actual-listening standard.
BIA, the data source for advertisers, investors, raido companies, lenders,
etc., shows very few "viable" AMs in rated markets. There are, in fact, only
about 250 in the top 100 US markets per that source.

Well, that's not the argument now is it o' fake one. A station with a
signal strong enough to be noise free has not much to do with your faked
marketing numbers.

You then build on the false fact that (2) since these other
weak stations are noisy people do not listen to them. Then you extend
this assertion to (3) your perversion of marketing data that other
people do not have access to that those marketing numbers show the same.

I am sorry that Arbitron does not give away the research that costs about a
billion dollars a year to produce for the radio stations it has contracts
with. I challenge you to find a friendly subscriber who will do some
Maximi$er runs on your area of Ventura County or otherwise gain access to
the data.

You are not sorry. You are proud to have singular access to this this
data among the posters to this news group. You think this makes your
arguments irrefutable but their is a problem with that thinking as that
data and facts derived from them have nothing to do with your original
assertion.

You will find that, while many signals may be receivable, meaning that there
is enough signal in the area to get the station if one tries, most are not
listenable. Listenable means that real listeners find that the station is
clear and loud enough to be enjoyed; in a car it means it will stop the seek
function and will be relatively immune from power line noise, etc.

Nope, that's not what I found. I gave you empirical data from table top,
car, and hand held radio that refutes such an assertion.

The stations you mentioned in prior posts do not meet the "listenable"
criteria because the signals are hearable but not used or usable by the
average listener.

Well if you were a real person you could find out in about 60 minutes
but since you are fake I guess you can't.

Well I'm sorry to burst your bubble but I provided empirical evidence to
point one above so the rest can't follow. Now I know that logic like any
other technical issue goes right over your head but that's your unique
cross to bear. So again Mr. Fake hispanic / engineer / marketing guru
this is your failure to understand nothing else.

Simple fact: there is essentially no listening to weak signals. When the
signal is harder to tune, gets interference or static or noise, people do
not listen. This is shown by millions of listening incidents over many
years... outside the strongest signal areas, there is no listening. It does
not matter what the principle is that determines attenuation of signals...
bad signals do not get listening of any consequence.

The facts you imagine are not reality.

Since you claim to live in LA you could hop in the car for a 60 minute
drive with the 7600GR you claim to own and see for yourself but being a
fake you can't do that now can you.

Most radio listening does not take place in the car. And driving around with
one expensive radio that is not typical of that which the average listener
has is not a good test. A better test is to do MapMaker(tm) runs with
Arbitron data (description at arbitron.com) and compare the listening
locations against the signal contours.

So after spending the 60 minutes driving time with the car radio step
out of car with your fake 7600GR portable and tune around on it. With
your fake 7600GR in hand and the list of stations I gave you in the
other hand find out for yourself.

Next.

Right. What nonsense will you post next?

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Telamon
Ventura, California