In article ,
craigm wrote:

wrote:

snip

I realize that this is a very simple observation, but I wonder if
we aren't holding some sort of false hope for want to be SWLs
located in the heart of a noisy city. In both this group and via
Email I have offered advice to help mitigate their local noise,
but I suspect I am not helping them as much as I once thought.

Any comments?


Are you helping others? It would be up to those who have been helped to
indicate their success. A healthy discussion of antennas and noise
abatement is probably beneficial to many.

For those wanting to listen to SW broadcasts in a noisy environment your
posts point out that there are some things that can be done to improve
reception. However, the solutions are not necessarily universal, some
things may provide no apparent improvement. Folks in problem reception
areas may have to try several different things to improve reception. As
more information is posted, more people can benefit.

If your efforts help more people enjoy SW listening, then your posts are
worthwhile. It may also generate interest in going to quieter areas for SW
listening. This be a way for folks too increase their enjoyment of the
hobby.

Folks living in noisy areas should recognize that they may not get perfect
reception, but there are many things they can try to improve their
reception.

Keep up your efforts, your posts are worthwhile.

Yeah, maybe for like two people.

All indications I have from reading the news group is that nobody
listens to what I post about antennas. If I get a response it's usually
an argument that they tried a similar thing and it was no better to the
antenna I describes works different than theory. Looks like it's pretty
much a waste of time.

Next week someone will post the same question and other people will
respond with the same wrong answers.

If it's at all technical you be lucky if one person out there reading
the news group that gets it. I used to think I was disseminating
information in this news group. Now I know better.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:

All indications I have from reading the news group is that nobody
listens to what I post about antennas. If I get a response it's usually
an argument that they tried a similar thing and it was no better to the
antenna I describes works different than theory.



I see. Perhaps the grammar structure has something to do with it?



mike

In article 3Mzmj.14629$vp3.8468@edtnps90, m II wrote:

Telamon wrote:

All indications I have from reading the news group is that nobody
listens to what I post about antennas. If I get a response it's usually
an argument that they tried a similar thing and it was no better to the
antenna I describes works different than theory.



I see. Perhaps the grammar structure has something to do with it?

I do not think my imperfect grammar creates a communication problem to
the extent that reading comprehension causes you. I think that it is
likely that your level of ignorance on the subject may also have
something to do with it.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Jan 25, 9:43*pm, m II wrote:
Telamon wrote:
All indications I have from reading the news group is that nobody
listens to what I post about antennas. If I get a response it's usually
an argument that they tried a similar thing and it was no better to the
antenna I describes works different than theory.
-
- I see. Perhaps the grammar structure has something to do with it?
-
- mike

dang - graymar got strucksure ~ rhf

Mike,

I find Telamon to be : Readable, Understandable and Disagreeable.

well two out of three ain't bad ~ RHF

On Jan 25, 9:26*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,





*craigm wrote:
wrote:

snip

I realize that this is a very simple observation, but I wonder if
we aren't holding some sort of false hope for want to be SWLs
located in the heart of a noisy city. In both this group and via
Email I have offered advice to help mitigate *their local noise,
but I suspect I am not helping them as much as I once thought.

Any comments?

Are you helping others? It would be up to those who have been helped to
indicate their success. A healthy discussion of antennas and noise
abatement is probably beneficial to many.

For those wanting to listen to SW broadcasts in a noisy environment your
posts point out that there are some things that can be done to improve
reception. However, the solutions are not necessarily universal, some
things may provide no apparent improvement. Folks in problem reception
areas may have to try several different things to improve reception. As
more information is posted, more people can benefit.

If your efforts help more people enjoy SW listening, then your posts are
worthwhile. It may also generate interest in going to quieter areas for SW
listening. This be a way for folks too increase their enjoyment of the
hobby.

Folks living in noisy areas should recognize that they may not get perfect
reception, but there are many things they can try to improve their
reception.

- - Keep up your efforts, your posts are worthwhile.

- Yeah, maybe for like two people.

Telamon - THATS LIFE !
{ Most of Life -is- One-on-One }

So {Well} Pick Yourself Up And Get Back Into The Game !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbqC1I2SxGM
- Sing-it-Frankie - ~ RHF

- All indications I have from reading the news group
- is that nobody listens to what I post about antennas.

I DO -and- Keep It Up.

- If I get a response it's usually an argument that they tried a
- similar thing and it was no better to the antenna I describes
- works different than theory.

This is after-all a Newgroup and one facit of a newsgroup is to
be arguementive about both the practical and the theoretical.

STICK TO YOUR GUNS.

- Looks like it's pretty much a waste of time.

BUT - You Can Always Say : I DID IT MY WAY !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbgB6X6S5c
- Sing-it-Frankie - ~ RHF

- Next week someone will post the same question and
- other people will respond with the same wrong answers.

Then 'be' "Don Quixote" like and do battle with them
time and time again : Stand You Ground - Yield To No Man !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quixote

Continue To Dream "THE IMPOSSIBLE DREAM" {The Quest}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZE4KGB6Wt4

- If it's at all technical you be lucky if one person
- out there reading the news group that gets it.

Then Help That One Person.
-Tip- That that same Reply and Refine-It over-and-over
until : Two People Get It
-then- Repeat the Process Agian-and-Again . . .

Some Do and Some Don't - Who Cares . . . Who's Next !
Remember - YES YOU CAN !

Add Practical Elements To Your Replies : To Connect
To More Readers -and- Get Your Message Across.
* KISAP = Keep It Simple and Practical
* Write For The Reader -and- Speak To The Reader
* Refine What You Have To Say -and- Say It Better

- I used to think I was disseminating information in this news group.

Believe Me You Are.

- Now I know better.

With Each New Day Begin Again - Fight For What You Believe In.

- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California
-
This has been "A Semon in Song"
by the Right Honorable Friar {RHF}
Propagating the Faith :
One Wavelength at a Time
- from the Planet : AN-10-i

"RHF"
-
This has been "A Semon in Song"
by the Right Honorable Friar {RHF}
Propagating the Faith :
One Wavelength at a Time



- from the Planet : AN-10-i

Ain't this an antenna??? .

Burr

On Jan 26, 2:43*am, "Burr" wrote:
"RHF"
-
This has been "A Semon in Song"
by the Right Honorable Friar {RHF}
Propagating the Faith :
One Wavelength at a Time

- - from the Planet : AN-10-i
-
- Ain't this an antenna??? .
-
- Burr

Burr - "Antenna" ~ AN-10-i or AN-10-a ~ RHF

The Whole Earth {Planet} Is My Antenna {Ground } ~ RHF

Go Forth An Listen Around The World :
Teaching Others To Listen.

Blessed Are They Who Listen :
For They Have Learned To Keep Their Mouth's Shut !

Set Forth an Antenna Upon The Ground :
So That My People Can Listen.

Be Not Dismayed By What You Hear On The Radio.

Worry Less : Listen More.

Begin Each Day By Listening.

As We Read The Written Word :
So Shall We Listen To The Spoken Word.

Hear Every Listener As You Would Like To Be Heard.

Praise Be Unto The Listeners :
For It Is They Who Hear The Words.

- - - more to come - stay tuned and listen ~ RHF

Telamon wrote:

I do not think my imperfect grammar creates a communication problem to
the extent that reading comprehension causes you. I think that it is
likely that your level of ignorance on the subject may also have
something to do with it.


Whatever you say, Ace...





mike

On Jan 26, 7:09 am, Telamon
wrote:
In article 3Mzmj.14629$vp3.8468@edtnps90, m II wrote:
Telamon wrote:

All indications I have from reading the news group is that nobody
listens to what I post about antennas. If I get a response it's usually
an argument that they tried a similar thing and it was no better to the
antenna I describes works different than theory.

I see. Perhaps the grammar structure has something to do with it?

I do not think my imperfect grammar creates a communication problem to
the extent that reading comprehension causes you. I think that it is
likely that your level of ignorance on the subject may also have
something to do with it.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon, ignore the troll.

His "something to do with it?" shows that he has a poor grasp of
grammar and should not
hassle others until he masters the subject.

Terry

On Jan 25, 11:09 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article 3Mzmj.14629$vp3.8468@edtnps90, m II wrote:
Telamon wrote:

All indications I have from reading the news group is that nobody
listens to what I post about antennas. If I get a response it's usually
an argument that they tried a similar thing and it was no better to the
antenna I describes works different than theory.

I see. Perhaps the grammar structure has something to do with it?

I do not think my imperfect grammar creates a communication problem to
the extent that reading comprehension causes you. I think that it is
likely that your level of ignorance on the subject may also have
something to do with it.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Given your deliberate ignorance on matters of established science
(e.g. your flat-earth views on global warming), I'm surprised you
would dare to speak of others' ignorance.

Physician, heal thyself. :P

--- ross