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craigm wrote:

Telamon wrote:

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Telamon wrote:

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craigm wrote:

Telamon wrote:

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

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Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip
on the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some
confusion here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not
AMBCB and FMBCB.


Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is,
obviously, digital as HD is digital.

Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.



Telemon,
Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development
projects on the internet? This would tell all their competitors what
they are doing. Most companies do not disclose development activities
until there is a competitive reason to do so.

They are a publicly traded company and need to let their stockholders
know what they are working on. Check the news here

http://www.samsung.com/us/business/semiconductor/index.html



Really? Public companies actually tell their stockholder the details of
their development plans?

Yes. This happens every day.

Not in any company I've worked for. If what you propose were true, what
would the value of a confidentiality agreement be?

Where have you worked that sales has not stated that the latest device
will be available on some date? Sales is trying to create demand before
the parts are made so they can sell them the day the parts can ship. How
else do you think things work? You must have a pretty sheltered work
life there buddy.

Why not look at the link. Read any news service about the stock market.
Just about any company any day is telling you what the next big
development is going to be that they are working on. When I worked for a
semiconductor company I was always busting my butt to make some deadline
created in a press news release. It's no different where I work now
since I still work in manufacturing.

Believe me if Samsung is or has been working on a HD radio on a chip you
would see a press release about it on their web site. Everything else is
there like HD TV devices so why not an HD radio chip? Eduardo got you
convinced it is a big secret? Well think again.



OK, provide links to all the products your company has in development. It
should be easy if this is all public information.

I'm not pointing out the company I work for on Usenet. Any company out
there makes forward looking statements in press releases followed by all
the disclamers. Go read any business news outlet about any manufacturing
company. Go read the link to the Samsung web site I posted or any other
semiconductor maker.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
craigm wrote:

Telamon wrote:

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craigm wrote:

Telamon wrote:

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in
message



...
Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip
on the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some
confusion here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not
AMBCB and FMBCB.


Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is,
obviously, digital as HD is digital.

Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.



Telemon,
Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development
projects on the internet? This would tell all their competitors what
they are doing. Most companies do not disclose development activities
until there is a competitive reason to do so.

They are a publicly traded company and need to let their stockholders
know what they are working on. Check the news here

http://www.samsung.com/us/business/semiconductor/index.html



Really? Public companies actually tell their stockholder the details of
their development plans?

Yes. This happens every day.

Not in any company I've worked for. If what you propose were true, what
would the value of a confidentiality agreement be?

Where have you worked that sales has not stated that the latest device
will be available on some date? Sales is trying to create demand before
the parts are made so they can sell them the day the parts can ship. How
else do you think things work? You must have a pretty sheltered work
life there buddy.

Why not look at the link. Read any news service about the stock market.
Just about any company any day is telling you what the next big
development is going to be that they are working on. When I worked for a
semiconductor company I was always busting my butt to make some deadline
created in a press news release. It's no different where I work now
since I still work in manufacturing.

Believe me if Samsung is or has been working on a HD radio on a chip you
would see a press release about it on their web site. Everything else is
there like HD TV devices so why not an HD radio chip? Eduardo got you
convinced it is a big secret? Well think again.



OK, provide links to all the products your company has in development. It
should be easy if this is all public information.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
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OK, provide links to all the products your company has in development. It
should be easy if this is all public information.

I'm not pointing out the company I work for on Usenet. Any company out
there makes forward looking statements in press releases followed by all
the disclamers. Go read any business news outlet about any manufacturing
company. Go read the link to the Samsung web site I posted or any other
semiconductor maker.


I'd remind you that the CEO's or COO's of several of the largest radio
companies in the US made "forward looking" statements two weeks ago at the
SCBA conference; such statements come under considerable scrutiny by
regulatory agencies if they are not based on factual data.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

OK, provide links to all the products your company has in development. It
should be easy if this is all public information.

I'm not pointing out the company I work for on Usenet. Any company out
there makes forward looking statements in press releases followed by all
the disclamers. Go read any business news outlet about any manufacturing
company. Go read the link to the Samsung web site I posted or any other
semiconductor maker.


I'd remind you that the CEO's or COO's of several of the largest radio
companies in the US made "forward looking" statements two weeks ago at the
SCBA conference; such statements come under considerable scrutiny by
regulatory agencies if they are not based on factual data.

Hence all the disclaimers that follow.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

On Feb 9, 11:22 pm, Telamon
wrote:
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RHF wrote:
On Feb 9, 4:28 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
.
..
Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the
Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as
they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB.

Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously,
digital as HD is digital.

Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon,

Not -if- iBiquity Digital Corp entered into an "NDA" with Samsung
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement
that allowed iBiquity to manage the public release of the Chips
Existance and Development. Then when iBiquity 'felt' that the
Chip was Ready to be Released; and that the Marketing and the
News of the Chip would have a Positive Impact on the Promotion
of "HD" Radio and the Sales of "HD" Radios. iBiquity would do
it jointly with Samsung.

we were not here and we did not talk ~ RHF

Please explain your logic for the motivation of either Samsung or
IBiquity to keep this development a secret.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Trust me. If there's a new AM/FM HD radio chip pending at Samsung or
any other place on earth iBiquity would be touting it from the roof
tops. They need any positive press they can get because to-date there
hasn't been much to report. As I said before - no demand, no HD.

Eddie, you're like the Titantic, you're playing music while the ship
is sinklng.

jw

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

On Feb 9, 11:22 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,



RHF wrote:
On Feb 9, 4:28 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
.
..
Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the
Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as
they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB.

Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously,
digital as HD is digital.

Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon,

Not -if- iBiquity Digital Corp entered into an "NDA" with Samsung
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement
that allowed iBiquity to manage the public release of the Chips
Existance and Development. Then when iBiquity 'felt' that the
Chip was Ready to be Released; and that the Marketing and the
News of the Chip would have a Positive Impact on the Promotion
of "HD" Radio and the Sales of "HD" Radios. iBiquity would do
it jointly with Samsung.

we were not here and we did not talk ~ RHF

Please explain your logic for the motivation of either Samsung or
IBiquity to keep this development a secret.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Trust me. If there's a new AM/FM HD radio chip pending at Samsung or
any other place on earth iBiquity would be touting it from the roof
tops. They need any positive press they can get because to-date there
hasn't been much to report. As I said before - no demand, no HD.

Eddie, you're like the Titantic, you're playing music while the ship
is sinklng.

jw

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

craigm wrote:
David wrote:

craigm wrote:
David wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
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There's no reason for them to be included in your so called "ratings"
which measure nothing but a dying medium's last gasp. Shoutcast (and
Icecast, Live 365, etc.) are where the top dollar demos are going for
good
music radio and NPR/CommunityRadio. There is no reason to subject
one's self to the torture that is commercial radio in the 21st
century. It is painful to listen to sonically (and HD sounds worse on
AM) and only a complete loser would voluntarily absorb the content.
Streams, satellite, HD2 channels and analog or HD terrestrial stations
are all included in the Arbitron radio ratings. Additionally, there are
audits of streaming "stations" and, as I said, the listening level of
Shoutcast across the US would not qualify all its channels combined for
the minimum reporting standard for radio ratings. In other words, think
of the worst radio station in your market, and it has as many or more
listeners than Live 365 or Shoutcast.
live365

I don't think you grasp the concept.

https://www.sky.fm/pro/order.php
If you go to the site, it says skyfm is currently serving 17117 users.
That is spread across 30 stations.

If you go to shoutcast, you'll see that many of the feeds support 1000 or
fewer connections.

Combine that with the low bitrates offered for many connections and I
fail to see how they seriously compete with a single station that may
have 10,000+ listeners.

You totally don't get it. There are thousands of web radio stations.
They are growing and you are bleeding.

You were partially right a few weeks ago; talk is going to FM. The
music is going to the web.


You don't even know who you are replying to.

I am replying to the twooze of youze, apparently. But moreso to the
group as well so be it.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

Rfburns wrote:
On Feb 9, 11:22 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,



RHF wrote:
On Feb 9, 4:28 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
.
..
Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the
Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as
they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB.
Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously,
digital as HD is digital.
Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon,
Not -if- iBiquity Digital Corp entered into an "NDA" with Samsung
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement
that allowed iBiquity to manage the public release of the Chips
Existance and Development. Then when iBiquity 'felt' that the
Chip was Ready to be Released; and that the Marketing and the
News of the Chip would have a Positive Impact on the Promotion
of "HD" Radio and the Sales of "HD" Radios. iBiquity would do
it jointly with Samsung.
we were not here and we did not talk ~ RHF
Please explain your logic for the motivation of either Samsung or
IBiquity to keep this development a secret.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Trust me. If there's a new AM/FM HD radio chip pending at Samsung or
any other place on earth iBiquity would be touting it from the roof
tops. They need any positive press they can get because to-date there
hasn't been much to report. As I said before - no demand, no HD.

Eddie, you're like the Titantic, you're playing music while the ship
is sinklng.

jw
What's the current draw Kenneth?

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

OK, provide links to all the products your company has in development.
It
should be easy if this is all public information.

I'm not pointing out the company I work for on Usenet. Any company out
there makes forward looking statements in press releases followed by
all
the disclamers. Go read any business news outlet about any
manufacturing
company. Go read the link to the Samsung web site I posted or any other
semiconductor maker.


I'd remind you that the CEO's or COO's of several of the largest radio
companies in the US made "forward looking" statements two weeks ago at
the
SCBA conference; such statements come under considerable scrutiny by
regulatory agencies if they are not based on factual data.

Hence all the disclaimers that follow.

There were no disclaimers of the type you refer to.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"Rfburns" wrote in message
...
On Feb 9, 11:22 pm, Telamon

Trust me. If there's a new AM/FM HD radio chip pending at Samsung or
any other place on earth iBiquity would be touting it from the roof
tops. They need any positive press they can get because to-date there
hasn't been much to report. As I said before - no demand, no HD.

The chip was most recently touted by some of iBiquity's investors, via the
heads of major broadcast groups at the SCBA conference in LA two weeks ago
Tuesday. It's written up in Radio Ink, with clear references to the coming
"HD explosion" based on the new chip.

Eddie, you're like the Titantic, you're playing music while the ship
is sinklng.

Absurd.