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Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on
the
Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as
they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB.


Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously,
digital as HD is digital.

Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.



Telemon,
Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development projects
on
the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are doing.
Most companies do not disclose development activities until there is a
competitive reason to do so.

They are a publicly traded company and need to let their stockholders
know what they are working on. Check the news here

Shareholder data is released directly to shareholders, not by press releases
on the web.

All publicly traded companies release this kind of information in the
media. There is no argument to be made here. It is in the best interest
of the company to promote what it is producing.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

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All publicly traded companies release this kind of information in the
media. There is no argument to be made here. It is in the best interest
of the company to promote what it is producing.


Products under development, non-competes, etc, are not pub lically
announced. Most development is kept highly confidential.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

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Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on
the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion
here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and
FMBCB.


Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously,
digital as HD is digital.

Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.



Telemon,
Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development projects
on the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are
doing. Most companies do not disclose development activities until there
is a competitive reason to do so.

They are a publicly traded company and need to let their stockholders
know what they are working on. Check the news here

http://www.samsung.com/us/business/semiconductor/index.html



Really? Public companies actually tell their stockholder the details of
their development plans?

Yes. This happens every day.

Not in any company I've worked for. If what you propose were true, what
would the value of a confidentiality agreement be?

Where have you worked that sales has not stated that the latest device
will be available on some date? Sales is trying to create demand before
the parts are made so they can sell them the day the parts can ship. How
else do you think things work? You must have a pretty sheltered work
life there buddy.

Why not look at the link. Read any news service about the stock market.
Just about any company any day is telling you what the next big
development is going to be that they are working on. When I worked for a
semiconductor company I was always busting my butt to make some deadline
created in a press news release. It's no different where I work now
since I still work in manufacturing.

Believe me if Samsung is or has been working on a HD radio on a chip you
would see a press release about it on their web site. Everything else is
there like HD TV devices so why not an HD radio chip? Eduardo got you
convinced it is a big secret? Well think again.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

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Telamon wrote:

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

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..
.
Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the
Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as
they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB.


Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously,
digital as HD is digital.

Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.



Telemon,
Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development projects
on
the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are doing.
Most companies do not disclose development activities until there is a
competitive reason to do so.


Likely there is a point in development, like just prior to shipping, when a
development becomes public. Since the HD chip is only shipping in
development quantities to radio manufacturers, the formal announcement may
not have been made... but that is just a guess.

Baloney. Sales is chomping at the bit to release the news to build
demand well in advance of actual production. It's the same anywhere for
any manufacturer. Blow your smoke someplace else.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

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You don't understand this. NDA's have to do with proprietary
information. The press releases are not going to declare how the part is
made or details of the software/firmware or how it operates.

Bull. On many occasions I have singed NDAs for research projects for radio
stations... proprietary information. A number of years ago, when I had some
developmental equipment in test at a station, I signed NDAs on its very
existence. I have signed numerous NDAs for software I was involved in late
Alpah and early Beta testing. NDAs are used whenever a person has
information that would prove vompetitively damaging were it to become
general knowledge.

The press
releases are a sales tool to build demand. In them they will tell you a
product identifying number, the device family, what it is used for of
course and a few details to create demand such as it does not need
support components or it uses 1/2 the power of the current generation or
its twice as fast and a date samples will be available and when full
production will commence. Any Semiconductor company does this.

Not necessarily in early development (when competitors could spot a trend
and jump on a bandwagon) or if the development is shared technology the
partner does not want released.

There is no argument here. Go read the news and find out for yourself.


Irrelevant comment.

This has got to be the most full of crap posts you have made to date.
You do not know what you are talking about.

I explained my experience working for a semiconductor company so I know
the score not that it matters as anyone can read promotional news from
any semiconductor company out there in the world.

You sure have your special brand of BS going there. Eduardo brand BS is
piled higher and deeper than any other brand. What a funny guy.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

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All publicly traded companies release this kind of information in the
media. There is no argument to be made here. It is in the best interest
of the company to promote what it is producing.


Products under development, non-competes, etc, are not pub lically
announced. Most development is kept highly confidential.

BS.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

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m..
.
Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on
the
Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here
as
they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB.


Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously,
digital as HD is digital.

Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.



Telemon,
Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development
projects
on
the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are
doing.
Most companies do not disclose development activities until there is a
competitive reason to do so.


Likely there is a point in development, like just prior to shipping, when
a
development becomes public. Since the HD chip is only shipping in
development quantities to radio manufacturers, the formal announcement
may
not have been made... but that is just a guess.

Baloney. Sales is chomping at the bit to release the news to build
demand well in advance of actual production. It's the same anywhere for
any manufacturer. Blow your smoke someplace else.

There are no radios announced yet. The public has no interest in chips, only
in devices. The work now is helping manufacturers design receivers of all
kinds. The publicity phase begins when there are products.

BS.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

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On Feb 9, 4:28 pm, Telamon
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om.
..
Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on
the
Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here
as
they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB.

Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously,
digital as HD is digital.

Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon,

Not -if- iBiquity Digital Corp entered into an "NDA" with Samsung
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement
that allowed iBiquity to manage the public release of the Chips
Existance and Development. Then when iBiquity 'felt' that the
Chip was Ready to be Released; and that the Marketing and the
News of the Chip would have a Positive Impact on the Promotion
of "HD" Radio and the Sales of "HD" Radios. iBiquity would do
it jointly with Samsung.

we were not here and we did not talk ~ RHF

Please explain your logic for the motivation of either Samsung or
IBiquity to keep this development a secret.

There are, first, no radios designed yet with the chip. The work at this
stage is to develop products or integrate the chip onto existing models.

BS.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
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This has got to be the most full of crap posts you have made to date.
You do not know what you are talking about.

I explained my experience working for a semiconductor company so I know
the score not that it matters as anyone can read promotional news from
any semiconductor company out there in the world.

You sure have your special brand of BS going there. Eduardo brand BS is
piled higher and deeper than any other brand. What a funny guy.


The difference is that the owners of iBiquity are made up in a large part of
the large broadcasters. This is why Stone, Mason and Smulyan 12 days ago
raved about the chip and the potential explosion of HD.

I work in radio, but I know each company in the business does business in
slightly different ways; same applies for semiconductor companies. What went
on at yours, in the past (you used past tense) is not necessarily what
Samsung in partnership with iBiquity does today. Different company,
different point in time. And Samsung likes to think of itself as a consumer
electronics company that is vertically integrated, not a semiconductor
company.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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This has got to be the most full of crap posts you have made to date.
You do not know what you are talking about.

I explained my experience working for a semiconductor company so I know
the score not that it matters as anyone can read promotional news from
any semiconductor company out there in the world.

You sure have your special brand of BS going there. Eduardo brand BS is
piled higher and deeper than any other brand. What a funny guy.


The difference is that the owners of iBiquity are made up in a large part of
the large broadcasters. This is why Stone, Mason and Smulyan 12 days ago
raved about the chip and the potential explosion of HD.

They spoke of the "chip" in such vague terms that it is clear it does
not exist. They spoke of the "chip" in future terms.

I work in radio, but I know each company in the business does business in
slightly different ways; same applies for semiconductor companies. What went
on at yours, in the past (you used past tense) is not necessarily what
Samsung in partnership with iBiquity does today. Different company,
different point in time. And Samsung likes to think of itself as a consumer
electronics company that is vertically integrated, not a semiconductor
company.

Nothing special about the semiconductor company I used to work for. They
all have in the past and currently operate the same way in this regard
for the same business reasons.

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Telamon
Ventura, California