CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Rfburns wrote:

Eddie - I think you're on to something. I can't wait to get a new
cell phone with HD radio inside. It's gonna be so cool hooked up to an
FM dipole antenna to recieve HD FM and a MW loop for AM HD. you're
right ... it's gonna work out real well. They're gonna sell like
hotcakes.

By the way I think you're becoming psychotic. You're delusions are
worse than I thought.

Delusional? David 'Eduardo' Frackelton Gleason is certainly that and so much
more!

He's like Michael Bryant, but on steroids.

Hey, when it comes to cluelessness David has nothing on Bryant.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:
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Do you find it interesting what you can know about a part just from the
package it uses?


The key issue is that Samsung has designed a smaller single chip replacing
the multi-chip set, which could not be used in portables due to size and
power consumption. Who cares what is inside if it works as stated? It's not
"rocket science" just consumer electronics.

Well never mind then.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"David" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
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"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"

"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations due to a lack of demand."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...-plug-on-some-
hd.html

Yupper - there she goes!

Actually, no stations ceased HD broadcasting; a few have had different
formats put on the HD2 channels based on listener response.

There are no "Format Lab" stations.

The "Format Lab" is a development center in San Antonio where different
concepts are streamed and the ones with the most hits and longest
listening
spans get put on actual radio stations. The ones that don't attract
interest
are nuked and other ideas tried; it's an ongoing process. The idea is to
create new content for HD that has not been found on radio up till now.



So they're just hoping people will find these stations by osmosis, or
what?

People find them the same way they find any web stream "station."

RHF did a Google search and didn't find any. What did you do?

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Telamon
Ventura, California

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"David" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message
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Eddie - You sound like one of those detached radio general managers I
talked to a few days back. Full of BS but no clue about reality. You
need help and I think I can help you with your fixation on the success
of HD radio but you need to accept that you have a problem. That is
the first step.

Now are you ready to be helped?


Yeah, and the help is coming from Samsung and the other fabs that are
releasing 9 mm form factor low power consumption chips for delivery
sometime in Q2 of this year. This will permit portable HD devices,
integration of HD into MP3 players and phones, etc.

And... I am not a general manager, although I have been one in the past;
I work with listeners to find their needs and feelings regarding radio.
Get a job in a shop or on a construction site. You won't learn anything
hanging-out in office buildings.

Actually, we hang out at community centers, swap meets, street corners,
malls, etc.

I think I passed by your lemonade stand on the corner on my last trip
through LA. I waved to you as I went by.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

In article
,
D Peter Maus wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

And using technology designed primarly for cell phone reception, the
FM in my Nokia allows some pretty impressive reception, using nothing
more than the earphone cord as an antenna, as far out of town as
Marengo, well outside of Chicago ADI.
There is no Chicago ADI.
Radio

Arbitron...maintains...areas for radio stations; each is called an area of
dominant influence (ADI). There are 286 ADI's in the United States.
-wikipedia

Nope. Wikidud data.

Arbitron does not use ADIs any more, and has not for about 15 to 18 years.
They use DMAs, same as Nielsen. Nobody uses ADIs any more, particularly
since Arbitron does not do TV surveys. Arbitron reports are based on MSA,
or
metro survey areas, and twice a year you can also get, if you pay for it,
DMA data... it is not released to the trades, ever. And buyers never ask
for
it. The PPM apparently will not use DMA data at all.




I wasn't talking about ratings, Buckwheat. I was referring to
reception of a portable device at distance with simple antenna and
sophistcated techology. Precisely describing and experience with an
add-on feature to a device, as you had attempted to present. The use of
the term was entirely appropriate to my context.

Had we been speaking of ratings, you'd be correct. But we weren't.

What's almost laughable, is that here I was agreeing with you, and
you chose to attempt to micromanage the conversation and start an argument.

Once again, proving my previous points for me.

For someone who asserts that his official duties include listening,
you really don't seem to be interested in what's actually being said to
you.

Yeah, earlier in the thread he did the same to me. Apparently he wants
to argue even when you agree with him.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

Telamon wrote:
In article
,
D Peter Maus wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

And using technology designed primarly for cell phone reception, the
FM in my Nokia allows some pretty impressive reception, using nothing
more than the earphone cord as an antenna, as far out of town as
Marengo, well outside of Chicago ADI.
There is no Chicago ADI.
Radio

Arbitron...maintains...areas for radio stations; each is called an area of
dominant influence (ADI). There are 286 ADI's in the United States.
-wikipedia
Nope. Wikidud data.

Arbitron does not use ADIs any more, and has not for about 15 to 18 years.
They use DMAs, same as Nielsen. Nobody uses ADIs any more, particularly
since Arbitron does not do TV surveys. Arbitron reports are based on MSA,
or
metro survey areas, and twice a year you can also get, if you pay for it,
DMA data... it is not released to the trades, ever. And buyers never ask
for
it. The PPM apparently will not use DMA data at all.



I wasn't talking about ratings, Buckwheat. I was referring to
reception of a portable device at distance with simple antenna and
sophistcated techology. Precisely describing and experience with an
add-on feature to a device, as you had attempted to present. The use of
the term was entirely appropriate to my context.

Had we been speaking of ratings, you'd be correct. But we weren't.

What's almost laughable, is that here I was agreeing with you, and
you chose to attempt to micromanage the conversation and start an argument.

Once again, proving my previous points for me.

For someone who asserts that his official duties include listening,
you really don't seem to be interested in what's actually being said to
you.

Yeah, earlier in the thread he did the same to me. Apparently he wants
to argue even when you agree with him.



Of course. It keeps him isolated and above the rest of the group. If
he agreed, he'd have to admit his pedestal isn't as high as he thinks it
is.

As I think of it, he sounds remarkably like someone else we've
encountered over the years. :)

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:
.

Do you find it interesting what you can know about a part just from the
package it uses?


The key issue is that Samsung has designed a smaller single chip replacing
the multi-chip set, which could not be used in portables due to size and
power consumption. Who cares what is inside if it works as stated? It's not
"rocket science" just consumer electronics.

I looked at the Samsung web site and could find no reference to a HD
radio system on a chip. I could find several versions of an analog
radio on a chip and HDTV chips but no HD radio chips.

Eduardo is blowing smoke.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

In article
,
D Peter Maus wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article
,
D Peter Maus wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

And using technology designed primarly for cell phone reception, the
FM in my Nokia allows some pretty impressive reception, using nothing
more than the earphone cord as an antenna, as far out of town as
Marengo, well outside of Chicago ADI.
There is no Chicago ADI.
Radio

Arbitron...maintains...areas for radio stations; each is called an area
of
dominant influence (ADI). There are 286 ADI's in the United States.
-wikipedia
Nope. Wikidud data.

Arbitron does not use ADIs any more, and has not for about 15 to 18
years.
They use DMAs, same as Nielsen. Nobody uses ADIs any more, particularly
since Arbitron does not do TV surveys. Arbitron reports are based on MSA,
or
metro survey areas, and twice a year you can also get, if you pay for it,
DMA data... it is not released to the trades, ever. And buyers never ask
for
it. The PPM apparently will not use DMA data at all.



I wasn't talking about ratings, Buckwheat. I was referring to
reception of a portable device at distance with simple antenna and
sophistcated techology. Precisely describing and experience with an
add-on feature to a device, as you had attempted to present. The use of
the term was entirely appropriate to my context.

Had we been speaking of ratings, you'd be correct. But we weren't.

What's almost laughable, is that here I was agreeing with you, and
you chose to attempt to micromanage the conversation and start an
argument.

Once again, proving my previous points for me.

For someone who asserts that his official duties include listening,
you really don't seem to be interested in what's actually being said to
you.

Yeah, earlier in the thread he did the same to me. Apparently he wants
to argue even when you agree with him.



Of course. It keeps him isolated and above the rest of the group. If
he agreed, he'd have to admit his pedestal isn't as high as he thinks it
is.

As I think of it, he sounds remarkably like someone else we've
encountered over the years. :)

Most clueless people have multiple personalities as if quantity makes up
for quality.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
...
"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"

"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations due to a lack of demand."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...n-some-hd.html

Yupper - there she goes!
Actually, no stations ceased HD broadcasting; a few have had different
formats put on the HD2 channels based on listener response.

There are no "Format Lab" stations.

The "Format Lab" is a development center in San Antonio where different
concepts are streamed and the ones with the most hits and longest
listening
spans get put on actual radio stations. The ones that don't attract
interest
are nuked and other ideas tried; it's an ongoing process. The idea is to
create new content for HD that has not been found on radio up till now.


So they're just hoping people will find these stations by osmosis, or
what?

People find them the same way they find any web stream "station."



Most people use Shoutcast. Have you ever been there? Be sure you're
sitting down...

www.shoutcast.com

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

David Eduardo wrote:


Actually, we hang out at community centers, swap meets, street corners,
malls, etc.



Those are challenging demographics, bordering on stereotypical. Is
"street corner" a power demo?