David Eduardo wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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You obviously know less about component marketing than you pretend to
know.
Really? What have I written that shows you I don't know what I write
about here?

This article was written last spring 3/1/07. Everything written is
being
proposed about the "chip".
Radio World is the authoritative technical publication for broadcasting,
and
has been for some time. If their reporters say they saw the chip working
in
a prototype, the chip exists and works. If they say it is shipping, it´s
shipping.

References to a TI project that did not develop several years ago are
irrelevant and an attempt to obfuscate.
There is nothing on the SiPort or Sansung web sites to indicate that a
"chip" that has been developed or shipping. There is nothing on the
Radio World web site to indicate that they saw a prototype working. All
statements I have read on the Radio World web site were promotional
forward looking statements.

The website has little abstracts of the magazine content, but to get the
full magazine, you have to qualify. Get the magazine if you can. It answers
all your questions.
Now I want a link or a quote to the contrary otherwise shut the hell up.
I'm not taking your word for it. It is put up or shut up time Eduardo.


No, it's time for you to stop objecting to every piece of evidence by asking
for more evidence or by disbelieving actual facts. Radio World is the
journal of record for radio broadcast engineering. If you are so
insignificant as to not even be able to obtain the magazine, that's not my
problem.

All the information about HD developments shown at the CES are in Radio
World, in an edition with several lengthy articles about HD developments
that is so extensive that it discusses the power requirements of each of the
chips in different operating situations.


http://www.eetimes.com/TechSearch/Se...&Search=Search

A search here reveals no revolutionary developments in the HD Radio/IBOC
chip universe.

dave wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message

...
You obviously know less about component marketing than you pretend to
know.
Really? What have I written that shows you I don't know what I write
about here?

This article was written last spring 3/1/07. Everything written is
being
proposed about the "chip".
Radio World is the authoritative technical publication for
broadcasting, and
has been for some time. If their reporters say they saw the chip
working in
a prototype, the chip exists and works. If they say it is shipping,
it´s shipping.

References to a TI project that did not develop several years ago are
irrelevant and an attempt to obfuscate.
There is nothing on the SiPort or Sansung web sites to indicate that a
"chip" that has been developed or shipping. There is nothing on the
Radio World web site to indicate that they saw a prototype working. All
statements I have read on the Radio World web site were promotional
forward looking statements.

The website has little abstracts of the magazine content, but to get the
full magazine, you have to qualify. Get the magazine if you can. It
answers all your questions.
Now I want a link or a quote to the contrary otherwise shut the hell up.
I'm not taking your word for it. It is put up or shut up time Eduardo.


No, it's time for you to stop objecting to every piece of evidence by
asking for more evidence or by disbelieving actual facts. Radio World is
the journal of record for radio broadcast engineering. If you are so
insignificant as to not even be able to obtain the magazine, that's not
my problem.

All the information about HD developments shown at the CES are in Radio
World, in an edition with several lengthy articles about HD developments
that is so extensive that it discusses the power requirements of each of
the chips in different operating situations.



http://www.eetimes.com/TechSearch/Se...&Search=Search

A search here reveals no revolutionary developments in the HD Radio/IBOC
chip universe.

Using the right search criteria ("digital radio")can lead you to this
article.
http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.j...leID=205205995
Note the reference to Samsung in the article.

On Feb 23, 6:17*am, craigm wrote:
dave wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

.... In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message

....



You obviously know less about component marketing than you pretend to
know.
Really? What have I written that shows you I don't know what I write
about here?

This article was written last spring 3/1/07. Everything written is
being
proposed about the "chip".
Radio World is the authoritative technical publication for
broadcasting, and
has been for some time. If their reporters say they saw the chip
working in
a prototype, the chip exists and works. If they say it is shipping,
it´s shipping.

References to a TI project that did not develop several years ago are
irrelevant and an attempt to obfuscate.
There is nothing on the SiPort or Sansung web sites to indicate that a
"chip" that has been developed or shipping. There is nothing on the
Radio World web site to indicate that they saw a prototype working. All
statements I have read on the Radio World web site were promotional
forward looking statements.

The website has little abstracts of the magazine content, but to get the
full magazine, you have to qualify. Get the magazine if you can. It
answers all your questions.
Now I want a link or a quote to the contrary otherwise shut the hell up.
I'm not taking your word for it. It is put up or shut up time Eduardo.

No, it's time for you to stop objecting to every piece of evidence by
asking for more evidence or by disbelieving actual facts. Radio World is
the journal of record for radio broadcast engineering. If you are so
insignificant as to not even be able to obtain the magazine, that's not
my problem.

All the information about HD developments shown at the CES are in Radio
World, in an edition with several lengthy articles about HD developments
that is so extensive that it discusses the power requirements of each of
the chips in different operating situations.

http://www.eetimes.com/TechSearch/Se...EE+Times&Site+...

A search here reveals no revolutionary developments in the HD Radio/IBOC
chip universe.
-
- Using the right search criteria ("digital radio")
- can lead you to this article.

- http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.j...leID=205205995

- Note the reference to Samsung in the article.

-Note- Dropping "Telamon" from the Subject-Line -because-
We now have a Second Source and a Second Sourcer for
the "Samsung Chip" -ps- It could be real . . .

A Big "TYVM" to CraigM for his Post and Info ~ RHF

IBOC : Real News About The Samsung "HD" Radio Chip {Second Source}
http://groups.google.com/group/hd-ra...1edb7fc7b535c1

EE Times : Terrestrial Digital [HD] Radio Goes Mobile
http://tinyurl.com/26vkeu -by- Junko Yoshida
CopyRight © 2008 CMP Media LLC

Part 2 - From the Car to the PalmTop
http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.j...5205995&pgno=2

Here is a Related Link : http://tinyurl.com/2hhrua
Data and Audio Processing for HD Radio
-by- John Gardner, Texas Instruments

like it or not - the truth is out there ~ RHF

craigm wrote:




Looks to me like the Samsung chipset is klunky compared to the competitor:

"...Samsung's HD Radio baseband processor, based on Tensilica's
programmable core, integrates the baseband, memory, SDRAM and flash in a
system-in-package measuring 9 x 9 mm. Including the companion RF chip,
the chip set's total power consumption is 150 mW...

....Sunder Velamuri, vice president of marketing at SiPort, said power
dissipation of the mixed-signal device is expected to be "around 100 mW
in typical configurations." He added that the chip, essentially "a
software radio," can tune and demodulate not only analog AM/FM and HD
Radio but also DAB and DMB-T, making it ready for the global market.
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. is fabricating the device..."

In article ,
craigm wrote:

dave wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message

...
You obviously know less about component marketing than you pretend to
know.
Really? What have I written that shows you I don't know what I write
about here?

This article was written last spring 3/1/07. Everything written is
being
proposed about the "chip".
Radio World is the authoritative technical publication for
broadcasting, and
has been for some time. If their reporters say they saw the chip
working in
a prototype, the chip exists and works. If they say it is shipping,
it´s shipping.

References to a TI project that did not develop several years ago are
irrelevant and an attempt to obfuscate.
There is nothing on the SiPort or Sansung web sites to indicate that a
"chip" that has been developed or shipping. There is nothing on the
Radio World web site to indicate that they saw a prototype working. All
statements I have read on the Radio World web site were promotional
forward looking statements.

The website has little abstracts of the magazine content, but to get the
full magazine, you have to qualify. Get the magazine if you can. It
answers all your questions.
Now I want a link or a quote to the contrary otherwise shut the hell up.
I'm not taking your word for it. It is put up or shut up time Eduardo.


No, it's time for you to stop objecting to every piece of evidence by
asking for more evidence or by disbelieving actual facts. Radio World is
the journal of record for radio broadcast engineering. If you are so
insignificant as to not even be able to obtain the magazine, that's not
my problem.

All the information about HD developments shown at the CES are in Radio
World, in an edition with several lengthy articles about HD developments
that is so extensive that it discusses the power requirements of each of
the chips in different operating situations.



http://www.eetimes.com/TechSearch/Se...Site+ID=EE+Tim
es&queryText=IBOC&Search.x=14&Search.y=10&Search=S earch

A search here reveals no revolutionary developments in the HD Radio/IBOC
chip universe.

Using the right search criteria ("digital radio")can lead you to this
article.
http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.j...SNDLPCK HSCJU
NN2JVN?articleID=205205995
Note the reference to Samsung in the article.

Which references the same few news releases I have already seen from
earlier 2007, which promise future development. There are no press
releases that state these promises have actually happened. There are no
specification sheets, no application notes, no reference design
examples, no number to call to get samples.

These parts are vaporware.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California