On Sun, 04 May 2008 08:55:03 -0400, Billy Burpelson
wrote:

John Kasupski wrote:


Ergo, we can conclude that Internet streams are no substitute for
live, on-the-air broadcasts.

John,

Let me respectfully submit that this time it is now YOU who is jumping
to conclusions . Internet streams (other than a few second delay) are
indeed "live" broadcasts and can easily be a 'substitute for a live
broadcast', depending on your ultimate goal.

Each has its place. One does not necessarily replace the other nor are
they mutually exclusive.

Yes, it is difficult to get a wi-fi connection in your car. Yes, there
are some sporting events that are "blacked out" on the internet.

On the other hand, if you are truly listening for content, have the
appropriate internet connection, don't want to put up with QRN or QSB or
IBOC crud or want to hear a station that does not have propagation to
your QTH, streaming is a fine way to go.

It's an un-winnable debate, as BOTH sides are correct.

That wasn't what the OP suggested though. His contention was that for
anyone who is "listening for content" that streaming Internet audio
was the only way to go. Is not a listener who wishes to enjoy the
play-by-play broadcast of a major league baseball game being played in
some city hundreds of miles distant also "listening for content"?

What about those who are NOT listening for content?

Maybe I just want to add another country to my list of countries that
I've DX'ed. Perhaps I just want to log a station from, say for
example, Pakistan. OK, as long as I get to log that station from
Pakistan, I don't really care too much what the content was, or
whether it's in Urdu, Farsi, Punjabi, or some other language. My
concern is to identify and log the station, and this is true
regardless of whether they are transmitting programming about
parenting in today's world or the latest anti-American pronouncements
from Osama himself.

Of course, it goes without saying that one needs an actual radio to do
this. Nobody's going to win respect and admiration from fellow SWLs by
posting a list of stations he has "DX'ed" over the Internet, anymore
than a ham is going to be awarded DXCC or VUCC for contacts made using
something such as EchoLink and/or IRLP.

That's the bottom line for me and, I suspect, for many radio
hobbyists, that in the final analysis, this is about radio. Internet
broadcasting is not radio at all, Even if it's a radio broadcaster
streaming their broadcast audio over the Internet, it is simply not
radio. No radio is used in sending it over the Internet. No radio is
used in receiving it. It has no more to do with radio than Diamond
Mine baseball has to do with an actual major league game.

JK