On May 22, 9:30 pm, Cato wrote:

Whether declared or not.... justified or not..... War Is Hell
especially when innocent people get hurt and killed.

Remember 9/11... and the innocent people whos lives were cut
violently short...including the little girl who never made it to
Disney Land, never got to grow up, never got to share the love of a
husband and have children of her own, and whos last moments were
filled with terrified screams as they approached the tower...

God help us all......

Jesus ****ing christ you have got to be the most ignorant asshole in
the group - and that takes some doing.

Can't you open your ****ing mouth without subtracting from the sum
total of human knowledge?

Is there one of his fellow canucks in the group who can explain to
this imbecile that Iraq had nothing to do with 911?

If your brains were made of dynamite you wouldn't even muss up your
hair if they exploded! Do the planet a favor and kill yourself before
you reproduce any more.

P.S. And please spare us your family history when posting your dumbass
reply that will surely follow. Everyone already knows that you have
"relatives in the US blah blah blah blah blah blah blah..." and we
still don't give a ****.

On May 22, 10:58*pm, Tex wrote:
On May 22, 9:30 pm, Cato wrote:

* Whether declared or not.... justified or not..... War Is Hell
especially when innocent people get hurt and killed.

* * * Remember 9/11... and the innocent people whos lives were cut
violently short...including the little girl who never made it to
Disney Land, never got to grow up, never got to share the love of a
husband and have children of her own, and whos last moments were
filled with terrified screams as they approached the tower...

* * God help us all......

Jesus ****ing christ you have got to be the most ignorant asshole in
the group - and that takes some doing.

Can't you open your ****ing mouth without subtracting from the sum
total of human knowledge?

Is there one of his *fellow canucks in the group who can explain to
this imbecile that Iraq had nothing to do with 911?

If your brains were made of dynamite you wouldn't even muss up your
hair if they exploded! Do the planet a favor and kill yourself before
you reproduce any more.

P.S. And please spare us your family history when posting your dumbass
reply that will surely follow. Everyone already knows that you have
"relatives in the US blah blah blah blah blah blah blah..." and we
still don't give a ****.

This from an asshole who makes it his profession to insult anyone he
disagrees with, thinks he is some kind of god...and mere mortals
should lick his feet clean

What about all the agreements Iraq broke? Among others.. they
were kicking out international nuke inspectors.... not allowing them
to go places they wished to inspect...as if they had something big to
hide.... what a buch of stupid assholes to do that if they had
nothing to hide... The international community warned them and warned
them to no avail...

You think your country was the only one to invade???? It was the
United States, backed by British forces and smaller contingents from
Australia, Poland and Denmark. And other countries forces got involved
in the occupation and suppression of Iraqi insurgents after....

You have that short a memory Tex?

Cato wrote:

What about all the agreements Iraq broke? Among others.. they
were kicking out international nuke inspectors.... not allowing them
to go places they wished to inspect...as if they had something big to
hide.... what a buch of stupid assholes to do that if they had
nothing to hide... The international community warned them and warned
them to no avail...

You think your country was the only one to invade???? It was the
United States, backed by British forces and smaller contingents from
Australia, Poland and Denmark. And other countries forces got involved
in the occupation and suppression of Iraqi insurgents after....

You have that short a memory Tex?


The US was so desperate to get evidence, ANY kind of evidence, they had
to resort to plagiarizing ten year old web pages. (complete with
spelling mistakes and typos.)

You have that short a memory, Cato?


Do you remember Colin Powell lying his face off in front of the UN?

You have that short a memory, Cato?


As for the inspections:

======================================
Iraq has on the whole cooperated rather well so far with UNMOVIC in this
field. The most important point to make is that access has been
provided to all sites we have wanted to inspect and with one exception
it has been prompt. We have further had great help in building up the
infrastructure of our office in Baghdad and the field office in Mosul.
Arrangements and services for our plane and our helicopters have been
good. The environment has been workable.

Our inspections have included universities, military bases, presidential
sites and private residences. Inspections have also taken place on
Fridays, the Muslim day of rest, on Christmas day and New Years day.
These inspections have been conducted in the same manner as all other
inspections. We seek to be both effective and correct.

http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/Bx27.htm
==========================================

You have that short a memory, Cato?



Remember April Glaspie? She told Hussein the States had no interest in
the Iraq/Kuwait border dispute. Hussein was set up.

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GLASPIE: I think I understand this. I have lived here for years. I
admire your extraordinary efforts to rebuild your country. I know you
need funds. We understand that and our opinion is that you should have
the opportunity to rebuild your country. But we have no opinion on the
Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait.

I was in the American Embassy in Kuwait during the late 60's. The
instruction we had during this period was that we should express no
opinion on this issue and that the issue is not associated with America.

http://chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/glaspie.html
================================================== ====

You have that short a memory, Cato?


The whole mess is based on one lie after another.


Euros VS Dollars?

=========================================
Original Essay January 2003

Although completely unreported by the U.S. media and government, the
answer to the Iraq enigma is simple yet shocking -- it is in large part
an oil currency war. One of the core reasons for this upcoming war is
this administration's goal of preventing further Organization of the
Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) momentum towards the euro as an oil
transaction currency standard.

However, in order to pre-empt OPEC, they need to gain geo-strategic
control of Iraq along with its 2nd largest proven oil reserves. The
second coalescing factor that is driving the Iraq war is the quiet
acknowledgement by respected oil geologists and possibly this
administration is the impending phenomenon known as Global "Peak Oil."
This is projected to occur around 2010, with Iraq and Saudi Arabia being
the final two nations to reach peak oil production.

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/RRiraqWar.html
================================================== ==

m II wrote:

Euros VS Dollars?

=========================================
Original Essay January 2003

Although completely unreported by the U.S. media and government, the
answer to the Iraq enigma is simple yet shocking -- it is in large part
an oil currency war. One of the core reasons for this upcoming war is
this administration's goal of preventing further Organization of the
Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) momentum towards the euro as an oil
transaction currency standard.

Well, it didn't work. Looks like the euro IS becoming the standard for
oil transactions (and Brazilian fashion models!).

Cato wrote:

What about all the agreements Iraq broke? Among others.. they
were kicking out international nuke inspectors.... not allowing them
to go places they wished to inspect...as if they had something big to
hide.... what a buch of stupid assholes to do that if they had
nothing to hide... The international community warned them and warned
them to no avail...

That is factually inaccurate propaganda. Iraq complied with almost
every ultimatum. Mr. Bush was Hell-bent on war with Iraq; even before
he was appointed by the Supreme Court. You don't know a coup d`etat
when you see one.

dave wrote:

Cato wrote:

What about all the agreements Iraq broke? Among others.. they
were kicking out international nuke inspectors.... not allowing them
to go places they wished to inspect...as if they had something big to
hide.... what a buch of stupid assholes to do that if they had
nothing to hide... The international community warned them and warned
them to no avail...

That is factually inaccurate propaganda. Iraq complied with almost
every ultimatum. Mr. Bush was Hell-bent on war with Iraq; even before
he was appointed by the Supreme Court. You don't know a coup d`etat
when you see one.

You don't know Jack, Rickets!

dxAce wrote:

dave wrote:

Cato wrote:

What about all the agreements Iraq broke? Among others.. they
were kicking out international nuke inspectors.... not allowing them
to go places they wished to inspect...as if they had something big to
hide.... what a buch of stupid assholes to do that if they had
nothing to hide... The international community warned them and warned
them to no avail...
That is factually inaccurate propaganda. Iraq complied with almost
every ultimatum. Mr. Bush was Hell-bent on war with Iraq; even before
he was appointed by the Supreme Court. You don't know a coup d`etat
when you see one.

You don't know Jack, Rickets!


http://www.baltimorechronicle.com/mediawise_jan01.html

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2001/111201a.html


In other words, the elite media’s judgment is in: "Bush won, get over
it." Only "Gore partisans" – as both the Washington Post and the New
York Times called critics of the official Florida election tallies –
would insist on looking at the fine print.

The Actual Findings

While that was the tone of coverage in these leading news outlets, it’s
still a bit jarring to go outside the articles and read the actual
results of the statewide review of 175,010 disputed ballots.

“Full Review Favors Gore,” the Washington Post said in a box on page 10,
showing that under all standards applied to the ballots, Gore came out
on top. The New York Times' graphic revealed the same outcome.

Earlier, less comprehensive ballot studies by the Miami Herald and USA
Today had found that Bush and Gore split the four categories of disputed
ballots depending on what standard was applied to assessing the ballots
– punched-through chads, hanging chads, etc. Bush won under two
standards and Gore under two standards.

The new, fuller study found that Gore won regardless of which standard
was applied and even when varying county judgments were factored in.
Counting fully punched chads and limited marks on optical ballots, Gore
won by 115 votes. With any dimple or optical mark, Gore won by 107
votes. With one corner of a chad detached or any optical mark, Gore won
by 60 votes. Applying the standards set by each county, Gore won by 171
votes.

This core finding of Gore’s Florida victory in the unofficial ballot
recount might surprise many readers who skimmed only the headlines and
the top paragraphs of the articles. The headlines and leads highlighted
hypothetical, partial recounts that supposedly favored Bush.

Buried deeper in the stories or referenced in subheads was the fact that
the new recount determined that Gore was the winner statewide, even
ignoring the “butterfly ballot” and other irregularities that cost him
thousands of ballots.

dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:

dave wrote:

Cato wrote:

What about all the agreements Iraq broke? Among others.. they
were kicking out international nuke inspectors.... not allowing them
to go places they wished to inspect...as if they had something big to
hide.... what a buch of stupid assholes to do that if they had
nothing to hide... The international community warned them and warned
them to no avail...
That is factually inaccurate propaganda. Iraq complied with almost
every ultimatum. Mr. Bush was Hell-bent on war with Iraq; even before
he was appointed by the Supreme Court. You don't know a coup d`etat
when you see one.

You don't know Jack, Rickets!


http://www.baltimorechronicle.com/mediawise_jan01.html

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2001/111201a.html

In other words, the elite media’s judgment is in: "Bush won, get over
it." Only "Gore partisans" – as both the Washington Post and the New
York Times called critics of the official Florida election tallies –
would insist on looking at the fine print.

The Actual Findings

While that was the tone of coverage in these leading news outlets, it’s
still a bit jarring to go outside the articles and read the actual
results of the statewide review of 175,010 disputed ballots.

“Full Review Favors Gore,” the Washington Post said in a box on page 10,
showing that under all standards applied to the ballots, Gore came out
on top. The New York Times' graphic revealed the same outcome.

Earlier, less comprehensive ballot studies by the Miami Herald and USA
Today had found that Bush and Gore split the four categories of disputed
ballots depending on what standard was applied to assessing the ballots
– punched-through chads, hanging chads, etc. Bush won under two
standards and Gore under two standards.

The new, fuller study found that Gore won regardless of which standard
was applied and even when varying county judgments were factored in.
Counting fully punched chads and limited marks on optical ballots, Gore
won by 115 votes. With any dimple or optical mark, Gore won by 107
votes. With one corner of a chad detached or any optical mark, Gore won
by 60 votes. Applying the standards set by each county, Gore won by 171
votes.

This core finding of Gore’s Florida victory in the unofficial ballot
recount might surprise many readers who skimmed only the headlines and
the top paragraphs of the articles. The headlines and leads highlighted
hypothetical, partial recounts that supposedly favored Bush.

Buried deeper in the stories or referenced in subheads was the fact that
the new recount determined that Gore was the winner statewide, even
ignoring the “butterfly ballot” and other irregularities that cost him
thousands of ballots.

As I stated earlier: You don't know Jack, Rickets. So you, and your drug addled
brain ought to just wander off.

dxAce wrote:

As I stated earlier: You don't know Jack, Rickets. So you, and your drug addled
brain ought to just wander off.


As in wander off the subject, Steve.

"...this isn't an argument...it's just contradiction."

dxAce wrote:


As I stated earlier: You don't know Jack, Rickets. So you, and your drug addled
brain ought to just wander off.


Should you ever decide to venture outside the Bubble, I suggest you get
your feet wet he

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timelines.jsp

The truth shall set you free.