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On Jun 10, 3:45*pm, Radioguy wrote:
On Jun 9, 8:52*pm, Tex wrote: On Jun 9, 7:45 am, Radioguy wrote: Ever seen how chickens, fish, crabs, cows, pigs, sheep end up in nice plastic wrapped packages at the supermarket? *It's quite a process to go from living critter to fillet. *You should visit a feeding operation, commercial fisher, slaughter house and packer for a real eyeful. *We are using animals for our purposes and it really doesn't matter whether it is a cute fuzzy little fur seal, sleek dolphin, ugly cod or rangy horse. *They are all dead and the way they got to that state is not pretty. *Do we really need things like leather shoes and meat? * I think so. Speak for yourself. I along with millions of other healthy people live extremely well without either. *I gave up eating dead flesh and dairy products years ago andI lost 50 lbs., my blood pressure an cholesterol *level returned to normal and my energy level tripled. The only downside I can think of is I lost many of my meat eating friends. Many have already died of ill health at relatively young ages and the others are so bloated and out of shape and unhealthy they are unable to be a part of my active lifestyle. Yes the animals exact their revenge in their own way. Because of the overuse of antibiotics, growth hormones and steroids in animals today you are eating a toxic waste dump. Check outhttp://www.madcowboy.com/ to learn and live healthier and longer. You have an odd selection of meat eating friends. *I'm certain the common thread in early deaths has more to do with lack of exercise and eating an imbalanced diet. *I'm sure they are charter members of Couch Potatoes International. *Most of my healthy and long lived friends consume fish, chicken, beef and pork in moderate amounts as well as fruit, nuts, vegetables, etc. *Don't forget our bodies have evolved over the millenia to process an omnivore diet and not that of an herbivore.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You might be surprised - biochemically, physiologically and anatomically, we're a lot closer to an herbivore than an omnivore. Nothing about our bodies indicates that we should be eating blobs of animal protein and fat in anything but the smallest amounts, if at all. Bruce Jensen |
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![]() "bpnjensen" wrote in message ... You might be surprised - biochemically, physiologically and anatomically, we're a lot closer to an herbivore than an omnivore. Nothing about our bodies indicates that we should be eating blobs of animal protein and fat in anything but the smallest amounts, if at all. Bruce Jensen Within the last single generation, meat protein has been introduced into the larger diet here in Korea. In that single generation, body height and strength have increased to Western levels. Unfortunately, around that same time, Western fast food was introduced, so there are now fairly large numbers (though nothing like in the West) of obese. It's interesting to see 20 somethings that are a full foot taller than their parents. |
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![]() "Bart Bailey" wrote in message ... In posted on Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:17:28 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote: Begin Within the last single generation, meat protein has been introduced into the larger diet here in Korea. In that single generation, body height and strength have increased to Western levels. Unfortunately, around that same time, Western fast food was introduced, so there are now fairly large numbers (though nothing like in the West) of obese. It's interesting to see 20 somethings that are a full foot taller than their parents. What if the recent 80,000 strong protest in Seoul fails to maintain the blockade and USA beef comes in, does this lower the price of hamburgers even more, making for fatter citizens? It seems to have worked quite well. Mad Cow phobia reigns. But I guess that's no different than what is going on in Japan. Korea has very strong unions. You should have seen them holler when rice began to be imported from other countries (read, the US). Along with health paranoia, they're pretty protective of their jobs here. They have to be. In a country roughly the size of Indiana, with nearly 60,000,000 people, they can't afford to give any away. There's a generational divide over whether the US military should be here or not. The oldsters want us to stay, for the protection from the loony of the north, and for the economic infusion of tons of $$$. If the US military were to pull out, hundreds of thousands of jobs would be lost directly from the military support system, and indirectly from the loss of dollars spent by the military and it's members. The youngsters want us out. It's an understandable point of view, for kids that don't realize what it would do to the country's economy (let's just set aside Uncle Kim). |
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In Hokkaido,Japan there are fast food joints that serve fried
Whaleburgers. cuhulin |
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On Jun 11, 2:48 pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On Jun 10, 3:45 pm, Radioguy wrote: On Jun 9, 8:52 pm, Tex wrote: On Jun 9, 7:45 am, Radioguy wrote: Ever seen how chickens, fish, crabs, cows, pigs, sheep end up in nice plastic wrapped packages at the supermarket? It's quite a process to go from living critter to fillet. You should visit a feeding operation, commercial fisher, slaughter house and packer for a real eyeful. We are using animals for our purposes and it really doesn't matter whether it is a cute fuzzy little fur seal, sleek dolphin, ugly cod or rangy horse. They are all dead and the way they got to that state is not pretty. Do we really need things like leather shoes and meat? I think so. Speak for yourself. I along with millions of other healthy people live extremely well without either. I gave up eating dead flesh and dairy products years ago andI lost 50 lbs., my blood pressure an cholesterol level returned to normal and my energy level tripled. The only downside I can think of is I lost many of my meat eating friends. Many have already died of ill health at relatively young ages and the others are so bloated and out of shape and unhealthy they are unable to be a part of my active lifestyle. Yes the animals exact their revenge in their own way. Because of the overuse of antibiotics, growth hormones and steroids in animals today you are eating a toxic waste dump. Check outhttp://www.madcowboy.com/ to learn and live healthier and longer. You have an odd selection of meat eating friends. I'm certain the common thread in early deaths has more to do with lack of exercise and eating an imbalanced diet. I'm sure they are charter members of Couch Potatoes International. Most of my healthy and long lived friends consume fish, chicken, beef and pork in moderate amounts as well as fruit, nuts, vegetables, etc. Don't forget our bodies have evolved over the millenia to process an omnivore diet and not that of an herbivore.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You might be surprised - biochemically, physiologically and anatomically, we're a lot closer to an herbivore than an omnivore. Nothing about our bodies indicates that we should be eating blobs of animal protein and fat in anything but the smallest amounts, if at all. Bruce Jensen Have you ever noted how most bible thumpers refuse to acknowledge that humans originally had a vegetarian diet (Genesis 1:29). They don't like to talk about gluttony either, Jerry Falwell comes to mind. Instead of being raptured up the 400 lb. slob was found laying on the floor of his office. |
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Real PROTEIN comes from BEEF.I am not a vegetarian but I like vegies and
fruit ok,,,, along with my BEEF or PORK or FOUL or FISH. All of the vegetarians I have ever seen before look kind of undernourished to me. cuhulin |
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Tex wrote:
They don't like to talk about gluttony either, Jerry Falwell comes to mind. Instead of being raptured up the 400 lb. slob was found laying on the floor of his office. Raptured? Damn...he thought it was RUPTURED. Why didn't you say something before his insides broke? mike -- Due to the insane amount of spam and garbage, this filter blocks all postings from Gmail, Google Mail and Google Groups. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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On Jun 11, 3:48*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On Jun 10, 3:45*pm, Radioguy wrote: On Jun 9, 8:52*pm, Tex wrote: On Jun 9, 7:45 am, Radioguy wrote: Ever seen how chickens, fish, crabs, cows, pigs, sheep end up in nice plastic wrapped packages at the supermarket? *It's quite a process to go from living critter to fillet. *You should visit a feeding operation, commercial fisher, slaughter house and packer for a real eyeful. *We are using animals for our purposes and it really doesn't matter whether it is a cute fuzzy little fur seal, sleek dolphin, ugly cod or rangy horse. *They are all dead and the way they got to that state is not pretty. *Do we really need things like leather shoes and meat? * I think so. Speak for yourself. I along with millions of other healthy people live extremely well without either. *I gave up eating dead flesh and dairy products years ago andI lost 50 lbs., my blood pressure an cholesterol *level returned to normal and my energy level tripled. The only downside I can think of is I lost many of my meat eating friends. Many have already died of ill health at relatively young ages and the others are so bloated and out of shape and unhealthy they are unable to be a part of my active lifestyle. Yes the animals exact their revenge in their own way. Because of the overuse of antibiotics, growth hormones and steroids in animals today you are eating a toxic waste dump. Check outhttp://www.madcowboy.com/ to learn and live healthier and longer. You have an odd selection of meat eating friends. *I'm certain the common thread in early deaths has more to do with lack of exercise and eating an imbalanced diet. *I'm sure they are charter members of Couch Potatoes International. *Most of my healthy and long lived friends consume fish, chicken, beef and pork in moderate amounts as well as fruit, nuts, vegetables, etc. *Don't forget our bodies have evolved over the millenia to process an omnivore diet and not that of an herbivore.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You might be surprised - biochemically, physiologically and anatomically, we're a lot closer to an herbivore than an omnivore. Nothing about our bodies indicates that we should be eating blobs of animal protein and fat in anything but the smallest amounts, if at all. Bruce Jensen- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Look at your teeth - designed to tear and chew both. Our bodies have evolved to process meat and vegetables efficiently and extract nutrients. |
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