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(OT) SPECIAL: for Ace and other ditto heads
m II wrote: Brody wrote: The USA is not in any great danger. Thanks to President Bush's actions. Place banana in your ear. Observe that there is no alligators around. Conclude banana placed in ear keeps alligators away. Wow, something else you dumbass Canucks do to pass the time. |
(OT) : Banana Special for Mike [M II]
On Jun 15, 10:02*pm, m II wrote:
Brody wrote: *The USA is not in any great danger. Thanks to President Bush's actions. - Place banana in your ear. - Observe that there is no alligators around. - Conclude banana placed in ear keeps alligators away. - - mike Place Banana in your Keyboard. Observe that there is a Mike [M II] Poston the PC Monitor. Conclude Mike [M II] is Full of Bananas. ~ RHF |
(OT) SPECIAL: for Ace and other ditto heads
All US military bases are US soil, just as are all US embassies. As such, the US Supreme Court and lower Federal courts have jurisdiction over anyone being detained on any US military base. There is no presiding US court judge at any US military base in a foreign country, but all JAG court decisions are appealable and addressable to US Federal courts, including the Supreme Court. I always wondered why the US airbases in the UK were called RAF Stations, not USAF Bases - now I know why. Thanks for the info. |
(OT) SPECIAL: for Ace and other ditto heads
In article ,
"Dave Holford" wrote: All US military bases are US soil, just as are all US embassies. As such, the US Supreme Court and lower Federal courts have jurisdiction over anyone being detained on any US military base. There is no presiding US court judge at any US military base in a foreign country, but all JAG court decisions are appealable and addressable to US Federal courts, including the Supreme Court. I always wondered why the US airbases in the UK were called RAF Stations, not USAF Bases - now I know why. Thanks for the info. That's right. Foreign US military bases are not US soil. Usually they are some kind of lease agreement where they US has use of the land for some period of time but the country they are in is not giving up all rights to the land during the lease. US law does not recognize these agreements as "US soil" to my knowledge. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
(OT) SPECIAL: for Ace and other ditto heads
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "Dave Holford" wrote: All US military bases are US soil, just as are all US embassies. As such, the US Supreme Court and lower Federal courts have jurisdiction over anyone being detained on any US military base. There is no presiding US court judge at any US military base in a foreign country, but all JAG court decisions are appealable and addressable to US Federal courts, including the Supreme Court. I always wondered why the US airbases in the UK were called RAF Stations, not USAF Bases - now I know why. Thanks for the info. That's right. Foreign US military bases are not US soil. Usually they are some kind of lease agreement where they US has use of the land for some period of time but the country they are in is not giving up all rights to the land during the lease. US law does not recognize these agreements as "US soil" to my knowledge. SOFA agreements (like the one Bush is trying to force on the Iraqi government ATM), cover this. Anyone that the US holds, the US has jurisdiction over. If, on the other hand, someone under the SOFA is busted doing something outside the base (which IS sovereign US territory, just as an embassy is, regardless of any contractural agreement that cedes the land to the US during whatever period is negotiated), then they may or may not be under jurisdiction of the host country. |
(OT) SPECIAL: for Ace and other ditto heads
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "Dave Holford" wrote: All US military bases are US soil, just as are all US embassies. As such, the US Supreme Court and lower Federal courts have jurisdiction over anyone being detained on any US military base. There is no presiding US court judge at any US military base in a foreign country, but all JAG court decisions are appealable and addressable to US Federal courts, including the Supreme Court. I always wondered why the US airbases in the UK were called RAF Stations, not USAF Bases - now I know why. Thanks for the info. That's right. Foreign US military bases are not US soil. Usually they are some kind of lease agreement where they US has use of the land for some period of time but the country they are in is not giving up all rights to the land during the lease. US law does not recognize these agreements as "US soil" to my knowledge. SOFA agreements (like the one Bush is trying to force on the Iraqi government ATM), cover this. Anyone that the US holds, the US has jurisdiction over. If, on the other hand, someone under the SOFA is busted doing something outside the base (which IS sovereign US territory, just as an embassy is, regardless of any contractural agreement that cedes the land to the US during whatever period is negotiated), then they may or may not be under jurisdiction of the host country. Not that I want to prolong this discussion, which has nothing whatsoever to do with shortwave radio and obviously belongs elsewhere; but the only jurisdictional statements relating to individuals I can find in SOFA agreements is that the US has jurisdiction over offences by Americans against Americans, and offences by Americans in the performance of official duties. All other situations are subject to the jurisdiction of the host state. It appears to be the activity, not the location which determines who has jurisdiction. - bearing in mind that these are generalities since all SOFAs are unique. |
(OT) SPECIAL: for Ace and other ditto heads
Telamon wrote:
In article , "Dave Holford" wrote: All US military bases are US soil, just as are all US embassies. As such, the US Supreme Court and lower Federal courts have jurisdiction over anyone being detained on any US military base. There is no presiding US court judge at any US military base in a foreign country, but all JAG court decisions are appealable and addressable to US Federal courts, including the Supreme Court. I always wondered why the US airbases in the UK were called RAF Stations, not USAF Bases - now I know why. Thanks for the info. That's right. Foreign US military bases are not US soil. Usually they are some kind of lease agreement where they US has use of the land for some period of time but the country they are in is not giving up all rights to the land during the lease. US law does not recognize these agreements as "US soil" to my knowledge. Then John McCain is a furriner. |
(OT) SPECIAL: for Ace and other ditto heads
On Jun 17, 5:22*am, "Dave Holford" wrote:
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "Dave Holford" wrote: All US military bases are US soil, just as are all US embassies. As such, the US Supreme Court and lower Federal courts have jurisdiction over anyone being detained on any US military base. There is no presiding US court judge at any US military base in a foreign country, but all JAG court decisions are appealable and addressable to US Federal courts, including the Supreme Court. I always wondered why the US airbases in the UK were called RAF Stations, not USAF Bases - now I know why. Thanks for the info. That's right. Foreign US military bases are not US soil. Usually they are some kind of lease agreement where they US has use of the land for some period of time but the country they are in is not giving up all rights to the land during the lease. US law does not recognize these agreements as "US soil" to my knowledge. SOFA agreements (like the one Bush is trying to force on the Iraqi government ATM), cover this. *Anyone that the US holds, the US has jurisdiction over. If, on the other hand, someone under the SOFA is busted doing something outside the base (which IS sovereign US territory, just as an embassy is, regardless of any contractural agreement that cedes the land to the US during whatever period is negotiated), then they may or may not be under jurisdiction of the host country. Not that I want to prolong this discussion, which has nothing whatsoever to do with shortwave radio and obviously belongs elsewhere; but the only jurisdictional statements relating to individuals I can find in SOFA agreements is that the US has jurisdiction over offences by Americans against Americans, and offences by Americans in the performance of official duties. All other situations are subject to the jurisdiction of the host state. It appears to be the activity, not the location which determines who has jurisdiction. - bearing in mind that these are generalities since all SOFAs are unique.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ergo Third Party Nationals are in Limbo - Oops Gitmo. |
(OT) 2008 Election Politics - John 'Smiley" McCain is many things. . .
RHF wrote:
dang - sure sounds like a us citizen to me - amigo ~ RHF . Then Gitmo is also US soil. |
(OT) 2008 Election Politics - John 'Smiley" McCain is many things. . .
On Jun 17, 7:39*am, dave wrote:
RHF wrote: - - dang - sure sounds like a us citizen to me - amigo ~ RHF - Then Gitmo is also US soil. D'Oh ! - How many of the Islam-O-Facist Terrorist at Gitmo are Americans ? {Born in the USofA} D'Oh ! - How many of the Islam-O-Facist Terrorist at Gitmo had an American Father ? D'Oh ! - How many of the Islam-O-Facist Terrorist at Gitmo had an American Mother ? D'Oh ! - How many of the Islam-O-Facist Terrorist at Gitmo were even Born on a US Military Base. hey - may be the islam-o-terrorist are cubans - listen everyone . . . anybody hear fidel castro saying - let my people free ~ RHF |
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